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günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi
01/27/09

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not sure what is up with this.. but it won't let me go to the second page... which is where i wanted to reply to a comment.... did the hamsters start the party a little early today?
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pauljones
01/27/09

@chrystlubitshi:

The hamsters are working on their top-ten-wheels to get laid in list.
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MushyHeirloom
01/27/09

@chrystlubitshi: Did you click on a specific comment link (the timestamps there)? If you did, it'll send you back to that comment no matter what page you choose.
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MushyHeirloom
01/27/09

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My anaconda don't want none of those buns, hon.
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leavethegun-takethecannoli
01/27/09

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Do they have to look so ugly? Is it mandatory or something? Did I miss the post where Jalopnik covered this? Damn. It's better looking than the Prius, but only slightly, if that. Give these cars some style please.
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Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
01/27/09

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Again, mismatched seat bolsters. Apparenly the new body type is fat ass, skinny spine.

On a serious note, I have actually heard many complaints from people getting into sporty seats--the lower cushion side bolsters tend to poke them right in the butt (or rack them) and it's not a very ergonomic experience for those not ready for hard bolsters.
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If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
01/27/09

@Ash78: Instead, American cars always have bolsters so far apart they might as well not be there.

But at least you can get optional cornering lamps. Take that, Japan!
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If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
01/27/09

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You can tell its pre-production, due to the lack of a "War is Not the Answer" or "Grand Oil Party" sticker on the back bumper.
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Andrew Didorosi
01/27/09

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Cool wheels.
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vwminispeedster, pronounded Si-trow-in
01/27/09

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sweet! it has a hand-brake. Take that Prius! FWD hybrid burnouts!
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A strolling player
01/27/09

@vwminispeedster appreciates Stud Beefpile's in-depth report...: Naaaaaaaaaaah, foot-style e-brake gives my left foot something to do!
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A strolling player
01/27/09

@A strolling player can't find Waldo: ...you know, when I'm practising my HYBRID DORIFTU!!!
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brandegee
01/27/09

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10 bucks this person has rented his/her ski equipment.
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Boosted Lego Wagon
01/27/09

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The low emissions'll make you feel like a latter-day saint.
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Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
01/27/09

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Way back behind that white church van...I think I see Red Ford!
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c0de
01/27/09

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i still don't get this hybrid fiasco, why don't they just import the MUCH BETTER LOOKING Europian 1.4l civic which does 40 mpg as is.. no electric motor, just good ol' internal combustion
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If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
01/27/09

@c0de: Because this country is unbelievably stupid.

I want a nice, efficient turbodiesel. BUT NOOOOO! We get an assortment of androgenous hybrids!
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SirNotAppearing
01/27/09

@FromaBuick6: I know, right! I hate it when my hybrid has both boy and girl parts.
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that ain't the way to have fun, son
01/27/09

@FromaBuick6:

I loves me some Diesel, too.

In fact, when I had a 1991 Honda ST1100 motorcycle for long-distance riding, think 1200 miles in 24 hours is a starting point, after adding fuel capacity so my max was 10.4 gallons, I was trying to determine what the next step was to get more than 300 mi/tank...'cause slowing down wasn't part of the plan.

Diesel is the answer. Ultra-torquey, very efficient, me like. Not ever gonna happen in this country. Thanks GM gasoline conversion engine logic and city buses. Thanks a lot.
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Six Flags Over Tomsk
01/27/09

@Kelly the Mercedes killer: While GM didn't help matters, the California Air Resource Board deserves almost all of our thanks.
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theeastbaykid
01/27/09

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Fugly, but a money-maker for Honda while the Volt is still vaporware.
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Graverobber
01/27/09

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Alright! The return of the Winter Guessing Game. I call Honda Insight.

I love this game.
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pauljones
01/27/09

@graverobber: Philip Landrigan Edition: No, no, that's totally a Prius. :p
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Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
01/27/09

@pauljones: Euro Civic 5-door!
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pauljones
01/27/09

@Ash78: 2006 Peugeot 407 SW!
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Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
01/11/09

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They're making Prii in blue now? Sorry, had to.

Good work Honda, keep it up.
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Jim-Bob
01/11/09

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It looks a bit nicer than the 2010 Prius, but it's still stupid. The problem with Hybrids is that they are not that green, and not that good at anything else either. If people were really concerned with fuel economy and saving the planet (if you believe that Anthropogenic Climate Change BS), they would sacrifice size, build quality and safety features for a simple, reliable diesel car with a manual transmission, like the old VW Lupo that got 78+ MPG (I forget the exact model designation). But, no. Hybrids are about fashion, not genuine concern for things environmental, otherwise, who would buy a car filled with several hundred pounds of toxic, heavy metal batteries that can't be recycled, and that require a far larger amount of pollution to produce than any normal car?
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sos10
01/11/09

@Jim-Bob: Get informed. The amount of heavy metals used in hybrids is much less than you think, and almost 100% is reusable for new batteries.

Building a hybrid is slightly more polluting than building a similar non hybrid car, but because of the lower emissions, this difference is easily overcome in the first year of usage.

Your analogy with an older and much smaller car does not work either, that is not realistic.
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Jim-Bob
01/11/09

@sos10: It still will not last as long as a conventional car, especially a good diesel. They will get disposed of early in their life cycle with low miles, perhaps as few as 150,000 due to repair costs. I expect a new car to go 300-400k miles without a repair that costs more than maybe $700 (like my 310,000 mile daily driver that still sees 35k a year). The batteries cost several thousand dollars to replace, and the CVT transmission is VERY expensive to replace.

You also have to remember that diesel is artificially expensive in this country due to excessive taxation. If it were cheaper than regular gas (as it used to be), it would be more popular. Heck, if it were the same price, I would probably go out and buy an old diesel Mercedes Benz 300TD! At least I know they last.
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sos10
01/11/09

@Jim-Bob: The first generation of Prii is still running fine, there are no figures (or proof) that a hybrid lasts less. Prii have proven to need very little maintenance, very few batty packs have been exchanged, very very few.

A CVT transmission does not cost more than any other transmission, but it has less parts that will wear out, therefore theoretically will last longer.

You are also confused with old style diesels, that where strong and reliable because of the simplicity of the technology (or lack of). Modern diesels, that comply with regulations etc. are high tech machines that are just as prone to defects as a regular gas engine.

I love the MB 300TD's, in my opinion, the last real Mercedes MB made.

Run them on recycled oil and it is a perfect automobile...
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Jim-Bob
01/12/09

@sos10: Well, the problem with the CVT us that in most cases it is MUCH more expensive to rebuild than a regular manual transmission. This is why I hate the original insight the least of all hybrids. It was available with a manual transmission, which is the only way a car should ever be built. (A man who can't drive a manual transmission just isn't a man.) Hybrids typically can't take too much beating either. I expect to do full throttle redline shifts all day long in a car, as my truck sees 20-40 of them every day, at the fuel cut of 6800rpm, has one owner, and 310,000 miles-with one engine that uses almost no oil (Go Nissan KA24DE!!!). I plan on seeing 500k out of it before it requires an engine rebuild so long as I can keep the rods inside the engine. You can't tell me that all the technology in a Prius will allow reliable, unlimited pizza delivery hoonage like a Nissan D22 Frontier will. All the complexity of the hybrid drivetrain means you have too many possible failure points. Plus, I bet it won't jump as well as the B14 Sentra I used to use either. It took all the abuse I could hurl at it with no complaint. It was the village whore-everyone got a ride, and a chance to pull the handbrake! Give me a Prius for a week to use like I would a normal car, and I guarantee I will break it. BTW, I am not just a pizza delivery drier, but a Mechanical Engineering student as well. I actually DO understand all of the underlying technologies here.
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A strolling player
02/08/09

@Jim-Bob: Hi, I'm a mechanical engineering student and I delivered pizza in my Toyota Prius for the better part of a year. Flogged the shit out of it. Still running beautifully.
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