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    2010 Ford Fusion Revealed With New Face, Engine And Six-Speed Transmission

    2010 Ford Fusion: In The Nude

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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    10/29/08

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Revealed With New Face, Engine And Six-Speed Transmission
    The grille is too silly, but at least it's good looking overall. One step closer to making everything look like the Iosis.
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    10/29/08

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Revealed With New Face, Engine And Six-Speed Transmission
    Nice style, pity it's FWD and it's a pity that Mulally is a fuckwit who's idea of one Ford is going to ruin the company.


    HEY ALAN, Camry drivers are always going to buy Toyotas, stop alienating your current customer base! You fuckwit!

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    10/29/08

    @LandofMinos,Top Gear Australia getting better, only 1 out o...: All is calm, all is well. Breathe deeply and slowly and repeat: nothing is final nothing is final, Mulally could be crushed by a bus full of geriatrics on their way to bingo, nothing is final.
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    Image of theeastbaykid theeastbaykid
    10/29/08

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Revealed With New Face, Engine And Six-Speed Transmission
    Is this based on the same foundation as the new Mazda6, or is this just a facelift of the old Fusion?


    I had a previous-gen Fusion as a press car. It was a four-banger five-speed with the sport package. Possibly the only car in the U.S. with that configuration. Decent car. 'Course when it came time to buy a car of my own, I got a Mazda3. [/the usual Euro-Ford-deprived bitterness]

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    10/29/08

    @theeastbaykid: Facelift.
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    10/30/08

    @Parkington: To clarify, they share the same platform, the old Fusion, new Fusion, the old 6, new 6 with the new ones getting uprated versions of the platform.
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    Image of rocketrodeo rocketrodeo
    10/29/08

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Revealed With New Face, Engine And Six-Speed Transmission
    Being in the Detroit area, you get to participate in marketing clinics every once in a while. I drove one of these back to back with an Accord, a Camry, an Altima, and a Malibu. Honestly, I thought I was in some parallel universe. There was no doubt that the Accord and the Camry showed worst, and I've had six Hondas. The Altima wasn't much better. It was difficult for me, at first, to comprehend (admit?) how much Ford has improved.


    The time seems to have arrived when American cars can be compared head-to-head with the best in the class. GM doesn't seem to be that far behind Ford, judging from the Malibu. I hope some of the folks who have been saying they'd get an American car as soon as Detroit began building quality cars again will put their money where their mouths are. Honda and Toyota's latest products in this segment sure make it an easier choice, too.

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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    10/29/08

    @rocketrodeo: 'Have You Driven A Ford Lately?'


    No, you don't have to thank me. Just keep sending the checks.

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    Image of DoctorNine's D9 Cat DoctorNine's D9 Cat
    10/29/08

    @rocketrodeo: Have you tried to find a Ford with a manual transmission lately? How about GM? I am serious, now.
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    Image of OletheaEurystheus OletheaEurystheus
    10/29/08

    @DoctorNine: I hate to break it to you but the US DOESNT want manual transmissions. This is a flat out fact, most cars sold in the US are sold with automatics.


    Enthusiasts want manuals these days in the US, not commuters.

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    Image of DoctorNine's D9 Cat DoctorNine's D9 Cat
    10/29/08

    @OletheaEurystheus: Not true. If manufacturers don't make cars with manuals, people can't buy them. Numbers showing most cars sold with automatics thus are victim of 'pre-selection bias', technically.


    I want to be able to choose manual or auto in all small or medium sized cars. You notice VW, Audi and BMW do this? Why do you think they do it? Because 'The US doesn't want manual transmissions'? Wake up, Homer. US auto makers will never get me to buy their cars until I can get 'em built like I want 'em. Just like they used to do.


    And I'm not the only guy who wants this choice.

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    Image of Jeb_Hoge Jeb_Hoge
    10/29/08

    @OletheaEurystheus: And I can live with a good auto. Heck, if you're an enthusiast driver and own an auto, chances are you're going to learn how to make it just as much fun as a manual. That's a lesson I had to learn.
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    10/29/08

    @Jeb_Hoge: "..Heck, if you're an enthusiast driver and own an auto, chances are you're going to learn how to make it just as much fun as a manual..."


    "Fox. Grapes. Sour." Aesop.

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    Image of lowmiles lowmiles
    10/29/08

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Revealed With New Face, Engine And Six-Speed Transmission
    I'm glad they kept the weird geometric headlights. The revised face is actually not as bad as I thought it would be. Certainly worth a test drive.
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    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    10/29/08

    @lowmiles: All I want to know is -- where the hell are the "squircles?"
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    10/29/08

    @Ray Wert: I remember a whole press release centered around them.


    While we're at it, what happened to the whole 30 part "Bold Moves" series of video clips?


    Wait...just found them:

    [www.youtube.com]


    Apparently the last one was a year ago. Might be funny to do some analysis on how all the "moves" they proposed played out.

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    Image of DoctorNine's D9 Cat DoctorNine's D9 Cat
    10/29/08

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Revealed With New Face, Engine And Six-Speed Transmission
    I wish someone would do the numbers, but I BET you can graph the decline in US automobile sales by looking at the number of cars offered with manual transmissions. Just a wild guess, but the correlation seems to hold.
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    Image of my favorite car is a motorcycle my favorite car is a motorcycle
    10/29/08

    @DoctorNine: there seems to be a correlation with weight and also with the number of shiny plastic bits, too.


    It is shocking to me how bad US cars can look and perform when the same "global enterprise" offers exciting hardware in Europe. Had a blast in the last turbodiesel I drove in the UK, yet it can't be had for any price on this shore. Hasn't anybody in Dearborn driven a Mondeo???


    Is there some problem with your mail system that you can't just have Ford of Europe send over the prints? Continuing to built ugly crapcars here, it's a wonder that the formerly big 2.1 aren't all owned by Toyota or Porsche by now.

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    Image of DoctorNine's D9 Cat DoctorNine's D9 Cat
    10/29/08

    @my favorite car is a motorcycle: I know it is possible. They would rather go out of business than try it though. Idiots.
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    Image of Bumblebee Bumblebee
    10/29/08

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Revealed With New Face, Engine And Six-Speed Transmission
    Neat-o, but it doesn't look like a Camcord competitor like the Malibu does.


    And when are they going to fix the Focus? With the direction of economy, it seems more families will be shopping in that cheaper, more fuel-efficient class.

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    10/29/08

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Revealed With New Face, Engine And Six-Speed Transmission
    So the new fusion has a unibrow?
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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    10/29/08

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Revealed With New Face, Engine And Six-Speed Transmission
    Agreed that a "budget" V6 is a great idea. When my mother was shopping for cars she test drove a new Fusion, which she liked, but didn't like the 4-banger buzz.


    While fuel economy is very important to her, she was willing to sacrifice it a bit for smoothness and a bit more pep.

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    Image of Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
    10/29/08

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Revealed With New Face, Engine And Six-Speed Transmission
    I'm trying not to dis Ford too hard, but it just doesn't do it for me. I just feel that there is a better design language SOMEWHERE out there for them to use. . .I dunno, call me crazy.


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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    10/29/08

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Revealed With New Face, Engine And Six-Speed Transmission
    Hello, My name is:

    Dave Plastichromegasm
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    Image of Youthful_Buick_Aficionado Youthful_Buick_Aficionado
    10/29/08

    @Mad_Science: Actually, it looks more like DAVE PLASTICHROMEGASM.


    It's really not all that bad, it just really doesn't match the rest of the car.

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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    10/29/08

    @Youthful_Buick_Aficionado: Ahem:

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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    10/29/08

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Revealed With New Face, Engine And Six-Speed Transmission
    I hope that grille can give a closer shave than the one Ford looks set to have with the Reaper.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    10/29/08

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Revealed With New Face, Engine And Six-Speed Transmission
    The grille looks too big, and entirely too damned shiny. I might've liked the headlight's bottom line to meet the grille's lower edge, too, instead of making that little jog.


    I've noticed on Ecomodder that a lot of cars can do perfectly well all year round with their grille openings completely closed off. If that's an option, could we perhaps reduce the grotesque grille and maybe shave a little size off the gaping fishmouth below the bumper? Hmm?


    As to the rest of it, I call it a Malibu fighter. Sign me up for the test drive, especially if I can have the thrifty 4-banger with the 6-speed tranny.

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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    10/30/08

    @Elhigh: Myyyy grille is tooo big!
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    10/29/08

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Revealed With New Face, Engine And Six-Speed Transmission
    It's actually quite nice! Looks like a Ford without looking like shit. Good work.


    Now, let's hope they carried this design theme over to the rear, which currently needs a bit of work.


    Also, kudos for realizing that a mid-level engine is a nice thing to have. Now it's Toyonda's turn to figure out that plenty of consumers would gladly buy something with more nut than the four-banger, but less torque-steer and thirst than the full-on 250-HP-plus six.

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    Image of Rock517 Rock517
    10/29/08

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Revealed With New Face, Engine And Six-Speed Transmission
    NEEDS. MOAR. CHROME.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    10/29/08

    @Rock517: The whole CAR should be made of chrome! With chrome tires! And chrome windows! And chrome seats!
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    Image of Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
    10/29/08

    @Deartháir: See link


    [jalopnik.com]

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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    10/29/08

    @Schm, problems around every corner: Sigh. I was kidding. That makes my heart go all hurty.
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