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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    07:46 PM

    In reply to TomTom's 20 Most Traffic Congested Cities
    The streets we have just weren't designed for this volume. I swear the cars in Philly take up more square footage than the asphalt, considering so many cars are parked on the sidewalk or grass.
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    03:45 PM

    In reply to TomTom's 20 Most Traffic Congested Cities
    Haha!
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    Image of egoods egoods
    04:07 PM

    @FTGDWolverineEdition'09: A few short miles from where my childhood home is (19 and Dequindre for all you north Detroiters). [getoffonbigbeaver.com]
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    03:38 PM

    In reply to TomTom's 20 Most Traffic Congested Cities
    OK, but four of those 'cities are essentially Washington DC, and two NYC.
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    03:05 PM

    In reply to TomTom's 20 Most Traffic Congested Cities
    Makes me wonder.

    With Austin, Portland, and Seattle on the list...how much of those cities' problems are caused because of "green" bullshit preventing a proper road network.

    /has lived in both Portland and Austin, traffic there does truly suck

    D/FW is bad, but having been born-and-raised here, as well as driving an airport shuttle and tour bus back in college, I know most of the (some are now gone) surface street secrets.
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    Image of My X-type is too a real Jaguar My X-type is too a real Jaguar
    03:31 PM

    @that ain't the way to have fun, son:
    Same stuff in Atlanta no new roads or additional lanes until air quality improves.

    Yeah 600,000 idling cars pollute less than moving ones.
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    Image of Drujon Drujon
    03:44 PM

    @that ain't the way to have fun, son: Funny you should mention that. Having moved from Dallas to Austin a few years ago I am still aghast at the lack of sufficient roads and the complete lack of a plan to make any - mainly because it would mean cutting down a few trees and tearing down some janky old houses. There is NO east/west highway or road with more than two lanes anywhere within the Austin metro area. I guess sitting spewing emissions in traffic and creeping along outdated unsafe roads is green?
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    04:20 PM

    @Drujon:

    No kidding.

    On the east side of town, Ed Bluestein Blvd., is a complete and utter joke.

    We'll just not discuss I-35 through that town.
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    04:23 PM

    @My X-type is too a real Jaguar:

    Sometimes the smart answer, which is also the easiest, gets ignored completely.

    This reminds me, at what point is truck traffic going to be banned or significantly restricted during rush-time. "Hour", it ain't.

    I noticed, today, on I-20, because of truck traffic, there was a huge secondary backup because they were three abreast where it is four lanes.

    Bastards. Maybe intentional, maybe not, douchey regardless.
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    Image of VeeArrrSix VeeArrrSix
    02:24 PM

    In reply to TomTom's 20 Most Traffic Congested Cities
    I noticed a few Ring Roads on there. Coincidence?
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    Image of GreenN_Gold GreenN_Gold
    02:23 PM

    In reply to TomTom's 20 Most Traffic Congested Cities
    I work in Seattle. I involuntarily park on the freeway every day.
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    02:18 PM

    In reply to TomTom's 20 Most Traffic Congested Cities
    I'm a little surprised that Miami doesn't even make the cut here. I wonder about this study - are they talking about cities proper or entire metro areas? The City of Miami has a population of around 420,000, yet the entire urbanized metro area from West Palm Beach south is well in excess of 5,000,000. Just the Miami-Dade County portion alone is well over 2,000,000. The City proper is also no longer the center of commerce and business for the Miami area - those have largely moved to outlying areas. There are large portions of the Miami-Dade metro area which have little or no expressway access, so the major surface arterial streets (like US 1, Kendall Drive, Okeechobee Road, and 27th Avenue) stay nice and clogged pretty much throughout any weekday.
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    Image of Equinoux Equinoux
    03:15 PM

    @tonyola: I'm surprised too. The 836 and 826 are TERRIBLE to drive through because of the traffic AND awful drivers.
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    Image of porschefan931 porschefan931
    03:37 PM

    @tonyola: I'm right with ya. I was surprised too. working in the hospital district and living south or north is makes no difference. It will always take 1.5hrs to cover 20 miles and that's with the Metro Rail included. As with a lot of place but particularly Miami area, the population is exploding and the infrastructure is seriously lagging.
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    Image of borovec borovec
    08:09 PM

    @tonyola: I'm from near-by Seattle (Mercer Island) and I agree it's pretty bad here. But... I've never seen anything as bloody awful as I-95 North in Miami. I thought it had to be a fluke the first time (multi-car accident?) but met the same miles-long jam on 2 subsequent trips. Please tell me it isn't always like that.
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    08:35 PM

    @borovec: 'Fraid so. Southbound I-95 into Miami is a mess every single weekday morning, as is northbound in the afternoons. The Golden Glades Interchange in north Dade has to be one of the worst-designed interchanges in history.
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    Image of Bret Bret
    02:17 PM

    In reply to TomTom's 20 Most Traffic Congested Cities
    Wow, Seattle as #1. We're getting really good at sucking. At least we're good at something?
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    Image of Tanshanomi Tanshanomi
    02:14 PM

    In reply to TomTom's 20 Most Traffic Congested Cities
    To the residents of the Kansas City metropolitan area:
    See, you didn't make the list. Not by a long shot. Stop complaining and learn to drive.
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    Image of Xelmon Xelmon
    01:52 PM

    In reply to TomTom's 20 Most Traffic Congested Cities
    Portland OR 19th? Seattle WA 1st?

    Those are very surprising results. Here is my guess why they are in there;

    Portland is very much a "narrow streets" setup, especially in the downtown area.
    The 3 ways to get in/out at long distance to the East is Powell (very bottom red line) Hawthorne (around low mid) and up Sandy area. Other than that it's like going through with a machete.

    And Seattle... Well, there's a whole 2 bridge that connect the East-West sound with a huge number of people working downtown, and living on the East side.
    Even then it can get really hectic to get around Seattle. At least Portland has some kind of logic to it.

    As for SF, been there... And it wasn't that bad actually on Sunday, though it was amazing to see 3 then 7 lanes of traffic gridlocked. That is a lot of cars.
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    Image of skaycog skaycog
    01:32 PM

    In reply to TomTom's 20 Most Traffic Congested Cities
    The closest of those 20 cities to me is Phoenix, 800 mi. away. I think it's worse there in the winter when all the gazillions of snowbirds come.
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    Image of dolo54 blows minds and blows engines! dolo54 blows minds and blows engines!
    01:30 PM

    In reply to TomTom's 20 Most Traffic Congested Cities
    Wow I've actually driven in almost all of those cities. What's the worst in my mind? Toss up between D.C. and Miami. D.C. because it's impossible to navigate without a GPS (and I drove there before such a thing existed). Miami, just for the high level of suck in the drivers there. I actually thoroughly enjoyed driving in S.F. Must be the hills.
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    Image of Equinoux Equinoux
    03:16 PM

    @dolo54 blows minds and blows engines!: Yup, the drivers here in Miami are by far some of the worst drivers in the country. NY City is a close second though.
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    Image of dolo54 blows minds and blows engines! dolo54 blows minds and blows engines!
    03:26 PM

    @Equinoux: you have to understand the mentality of a nyc driver. you go where you need to go when you need to go there and everybody does the same. the lack of courtesy actually makes things move much faster. fair disclosure: I drove there for 20 years and almost every day in manhattan for the last 10. I actually love driving there, I'm sick that way.
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    Image of Number_Six Number_Six
    01:25 PM

    In reply to TomTom's 20 Most Traffic Congested Cities
    Odd choice of Seoul as the title picture when this is North American. Also, Toronto belongs on this list; it's usually rated as second-worse to LA.

    Also, in real life you would never spend a quarter of the time in traffic in Portland, for example, as you would anywhere in BosNYWash.
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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    01:31 PM

    @Number_Six: Toronto is brutal.
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    Image of Number_Six Number_Six
    02:44 PM

    @Number_Six: I went for lunch and when I came back, my little pencil was missing. Now I can't edit my crappily-written comment. Who took my pencil?
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    Image of petersterncan petersterncan
    02:53 PM

    @Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp: Well as someone who lives in Toronto, it can be brutal if you use poor strategy.

    For example... the nightclub district downtown on a Friday or Saturday night... don't bother trying to get a spot that's close to the club/bar you want to go to... just park on a lot near Front St. and walk the rest of the way... you'll spend less on parking and you'll arrive sooner.

    My personal favourite spot is a place on Blue Jays Way just north of Front on the East side. It's underground, safe, warm and cheap (usually only $5 or $6)

    Also, when going east, avoiding the Spadina offramp is another good strategy if it's really backed up. Instead, take the next exit and then go back west on Lakeshore and then take the side roads around the skydome... but do that only when there's no Jays game or event going on.

    Or when getting on the Gardner West... it often makes more sense to stay on lakeshore and get on the Gardner Expressway near the Humber Loop rather than trying to get on by Dunn Ave.

    Or when trying to get downtown and the entire QEW/Gardner and Lakeshore is backed up, an alternative is:
    -take South Service Road from Hurontario.
    -That will eventually merge back onto the highway... but then you just get right back off and take Evans to Kipling.
    -go North on Kipling to Queensway and go east on Queensway
    -Take Queensway to King. While doing this, have a look at your right to see if things are getting better or worse on the Gardner. When turning right on King, decide whether to get back on the Gardner via Lakeshore or go through Exhibition place to Front Street.
    -Take Front in... if it gets backed up, turn left at Bathurst and then take the first right after going over the bridge. That will take you to around the Skydome and parking that's within walking distance of the clubs.

    While the traffic can be bad, if you familiarize yourself with all the roads, there's usually a way to bypass the worst jams.
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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    03:24 PM

    @petersterncan: See, my problem is how rarely I am in Toronto. This is excellent advice, but I am sure to completely forget about it next time I go there, unfortunately.

    Last time I was in the area, was for a seminar in Mississauga last spring. Needless to say, there was no sensible way to avoid QEW rush hour traffic both ways (on a Friday, no less). It was easier getting into town than out, since I crossed the Peace Bridge at something like 6am (and hour into my drive), so it was smooth sailing until I was fairly close to where I needed to be. It took an hour longer to get home than it did to get there. Ick.

    ...but again, as the hapless out-of-towner, I get screwed. Such is life.
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    Image of Ash78, cube farmer Ash78, cube farmer
    01:22 PM

    In reply to TomTom's 20 Most Traffic Congested Cities
    You know what they missed?

    "Every single college town of 20k people after a major sporting event, as 300k people try to find their cars and leave on two-lane roads"

    Yes, I'm in the SEC. Why do you ask?
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    Image of baldheadeddork baldheadeddork
    01:35 PM

    @Ash78, cube farmer: Athens, by chance?

    My town qualifies on size, but we're the Chicago Cubs of the Big 10 so our home games only draw 50K (at most) masochists, binge-drinkers and thirty/forty-somethings hoping to pull an undergrad.
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    Image of Illini300C Illini300C
    01:35 PM

    @Ash78, cube farmer: We get the same damn thing in the Big 10, only try contending with some extremely nasty winter weather.

    Besides, being in the SEC, don't Tim Tebow's almighty powers extend to parting the sea of red taillights?
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    Image of Ash78, cube farmer Ash78, cube farmer
    01:37 PM

    @baldheadeddork: Athens isn't TOO bad, at least compared to Auburn, Oxford, and Starkville, among probably some others.

    80k people at the game, another 100k-200k just in town to tailgate and generally take up space.
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    Image of Ash78, cube farmer Ash78, cube farmer
    01:39 PM

    @Illini300C: Tebow's tears have very little power beyond a 100-mile radius from Gainesville.

    Around here, we're all involuntarily consumed within the Nick Saban Ego Forcefield.
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    Image of Sloop_John_B Sloop_John_B
    03:53 PM

    @Ash78, cube farmer: Athen's has adopted the policy of "onewaying" the roads coming out of the stadium. It helps disolve the traffic into the surrounding areas much better. Plus we have a functioning bypass around all of Athens.
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    Image of BigHarv BigHarv
    01:20 PM

    In reply to TomTom's 20 Most Traffic Congested Cities
    I'm curious to see their exact methods; the population figures are way off.
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