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    2010 Jaguar XJ Teases Us One Last Time

    2010 Jaguar XJ: All New, No More Retro
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    07/08/09

    In reply to 2010 Jaguar XJ Teases Us One Last Time
    I wonder if Jay will pronounce the "u" in Jaguar...
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    07/08/09

    @Dwegmull, preview free since March 2009.: The last time he was on TG, he seemed to adjust his vocabulary a bit for the British audience, so my guess is that he might. I'd say there's a 50% chance he'll pronounce it either way.
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    07/08/09

    @PlayerX: I'd say that there is a 100% chance he'll pronounce it either way, and a 50% chance he'll pronounce it with the "u".
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    07/09/09

    @pauljones: Nyuk!
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    07/08/09

    In reply to 2010 Jaguar XJ Teases Us One Last Time
    Here's a link to netcarshow.com, a car wallpaper website that appears to have unofficial pictures of it already:


    [www.netcarshow.com]


    I would post the images themselves, but they have disabled that.

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    Image of Jagvar Jagvar
    07/08/09

    @pauljones:


    Whoever thought that putting the leaper on the trunklid was a good idea needs to be slapped. It looks awkward on the XF and even more awkward here.

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    07/08/09

    @pauljones:



    ?
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    07/08/09

    @Jagvar: Seriously. I am not a big fan of the taillight treatment, either.


    @rip: Yeah, that Audi greenhouse thing annoys me. I love the current XJ for the fact that it is so different than the overly swoopy 750, A8, S550, and LS. I know that Callum wanted to give it a more modern look, but I'm not so sure he went about doing it the right way.


    Being that I love Jaguar, though, I will reserve my judgment for now. Perhaps it will grow on me in time.

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    07/08/09

    @pauljones: Someone's breaking some embargos there! I quite like it. They gave it the lights from the C-XF concept that the XF should have had. The 4-door coupe look works quite well flowing into those Lancia Thesis-ish rear light treatment.
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    07/08/09

    @Alphamazing: Well, sometimes we all have to learn from our own experiences.
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    07/08/09

    @pauljones: That taillight sadly reminded me of the Kia Amanti's.



    The rear end just falls too flat.

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    07/08/09

    @Alphamazing: It's funny because it didn't work.
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    07/08/09

    @Pessimipposaurus: Like I said, sometimes, we can't be told, we just have to experience it ourselves...
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    07/08/09

    @racerx: I'm more interested in seeing the interior. The one thing I don't like too much about the current XJ is the rather dull interior compared to Audis, for example.
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    07/08/09

    @pauljones:

    Ugh, anyone else want to punch Ian Callum in the face right about now? I already miss the old XJ. And what is up with those fug tail lights?


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    07/08/09

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    07/08/09

    @wohho: The Matrix was right - '99 was the peak of our society
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    07/08/09

    @pauljones: This was supposed to be earth-shatteringly beautyful. It isn't. It looks pretty good up to the B pillar, and then it's just wrong.


    I'm actually kinda disappointed... Damn you and all your teasing Jaguar, i feel sad about a car that i would never buy for myself anyway.

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    07/08/09

    @pauljones: Have they been removed? I'm only seeing the overhead shot that Jalopnik posted a week or two ago.
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    07/08/09

    @Omaxem: Yeah, I think that the Aston Martin Rapide is what the new Jaguar should have emulated, rather than the Audi A8.


    It might be better in black, though, and if the interior is up to par, I'll forgive it for not quite living up to the hype in terms of the exterior design.

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    07/08/09

    @Deartháir - Now with more Unemployment™!: @BigHarv: Yeah, I think that they have been removed. They were there a few minutes ago, I swear!
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    07/08/09

    @pauljones: Dammit, someone pull them out of their caches and post them!
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    07/08/09

    @Deartháir - Now with more Age™!: Dude, I can barely log into Jalopnik. I have no idea how to do that.
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    07/08/09

    @Deartháir - Now with more Unemployment™!: Here comes Taglane to save the day!


    [i237.photobucket.com]

    [i237.photobucket.com]

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    07/08/09

    @Taglane: I was going to give you a heart click for that, but then I realized I already gave you one.
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    07/08/09

    @Syrax - 1000 Club: I agree completely. But while that's my take, the sales numbers of the X308 in the later years and the X350 seemed to indicate that enough folks didn't like the traditional Jaguar styling anymore. I want my car to look like a 99 XJ or 99 BMW, but others don't, so I'll cut Jaguar some slack.
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    07/08/09

    @TTopJohn: And BMW skyrocketed their sales after Bangle's abominations started to hit the showrooms. I understand.
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    07/08/09

    In reply to 2010 Jaguar XJ Teases Us One Last Time
    I'm intrigued. I'll try and pick one up in 2015, when it'll be worth about the same as a new Civic.
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    07/08/09

    @Maymar is (insert recent meme here):


    You're being too generous. Shoot for 2013.

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    07/08/09

    @Jagvar: I'll pick up a 2007 model in 2013, when it'll be worth about the same as a flat screen tv.
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    07/08/09

    @CPO Alfisted: Not that much. '00 XJRs are averaging US$10k.
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    07/08/09

    In reply to 2010 Jaguar XJ Teases Us One Last Time
    Yes! I can't wait to get hands on with the new Jaguar XJ tomorrow. I hear it will be real easy on the hands.
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    07/08/09

    In reply to 2010 Jaguar XJ Teases Us One Last Time
    Stop with the teasing already! OK, I get it! You're sexy! Just reveal yourself so we can get down to business! Stupid foreplay.
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    07/08/09

    @engineerd: I call the left tailpipe.
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    07/08/09

    @pauljones: I call the right. If our swords cross, though, we have to fight.
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    07/08/09

    @pauljones: @engineerd: the horror, the horror........(shudders uncontrollably)
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    07/08/09

    @engineerd: Mine's bigger.
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    07/08/09

    @pauljones: Mine's thicker.
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    07/08/09

    @engineerd: Mine's juicier.
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    07/08/09

    @pauljones: Mine's sharper.


    We're talking about swords, right?

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    07/08/09

    @Deartháir - Now with more Age™!: No, no, we're talking about Filet Mignons. Omaha Steaks is having a great sale right now.
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    07/08/09

    @pauljones: In that case, mine's bacon wrapped.
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    07/08/09

    @engineerd: Mine's triple-trimmed private reserve.
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    07/08/09

    In reply to 2010 Jaguar XJ Teases Us One Last Time
    I have a feeling this won't turn out well.
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    07/08/09

    @bzr: Ditto on that sentiment. The S-Type was the last new Jag that I actually got excited about (design-wise).
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    07/08/09

    @Flagrant German Fanboy: The S-Type? Guess you do live up to your username.
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    04/20/09

    In reply to 2010 Jaguar XJ: All New, No More Retro
    No more Lecter-Mobile?


    NOOOOOOOOOOO!

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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    04/20/09

    In reply to 2010 Jaguar XJ: All New, No More Retro
    Couldn't they have at least put the fuel filler on top of the rear cowl for old time's sake. I know the current car doesn't have it there, but come on!
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    04/20/09

    @Tomsk aka Studly del Torquewrench, Esq.: I'd vote for that too. Especially if they put the gas tanks back into the rear fenders! No more having to remember which side of the car your gas cap is on. Think of the ease of mind and time savings!
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    04/20/09

    In reply to 2010 Jaguar XJ: All New, No More Retro
    I don't particularly like the XJ, but it's a sad fact that it has fallen victim to bloatation.
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    04/20/09

    @Dhillaz: Might wanna look into that a little more.
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    04/20/09

    In reply to 2010 Jaguar XJ: All New, No More Retro
    Ouch. Sorry Wes. I wrote an article a few days ago wherein I said that any auto journalist who said the current XJ was outdated or retro was clearly just an idiot who had spent too much time drinking Bangle's kool-aid. Similarly, considering it bloated when it's a 7-series competitor that weighs in at 3-series weight is evident of a failure to do research.


    The statements all remain true, I'm just sorry that they now apply to you, Wes. I like you too much to think such things of you.


    Okay, mostly just your ass.

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    04/20/09

    @Pope Deartháir III the Awesometh: Your comment made me curious so here are the quoted weights for the 2009 models from Jaguar and BMW's Canadian websites:


    BMW 750i: 2070kg, $105k, 400hp/450ft.lb


    Jaguar XJR: 1790kg, $99k, 400hp/413ft.lb


    BWW 335i: 1630kg, $49k, 300hp/300ft.lb


    Not that I have driven any of them (or ever will) but that's quite a weight spread.

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    04/20/09

    @Pope Deartháir III the Awesometh: Saves me from having to say the same think. What's outdated about state of the art aluminum construction? The XJ is more high tech than the A8 or Phaeton.
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    04/20/09

    @BigHarv: Not only that, but it really, really is a nice car to drive. I only had it for a day to do a review on it, but I honestly wished I could have had it for much longer, and it was enough to make me seriously consider buying one.


    @Schweppes - Now with more school work: As mentir pointed out, there are a lot of other option packages that we don't get in Canada. We only get the big-daddy versions. The point, however, is that this is a really big car that's extremely light when compared to its competitors. I'd hardly say that qualifies as "bloat".

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    04/20/09

    @Pope Deartháir III the Awesometh: I agree with you about the weight compared to other cars in that class, the 7 series is almost twice the weight of my car (somewhere around 1150kg) and the 280+ kg difference between the 7 series and the Jag is significant.
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    04/20/09

    In reply to 2010 Jaguar XJ: All New, No More Retro
    Looks like Jaguar might have fallen into good hands. May all our orphans be so lucky.


    The overhead shot does look promising, though I was hoping for a close up of the fuel filler door, to really get a sense of the new design.


    I've got a friend with an XJR. He might be persuaded to be jaded and need this update.

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    04/20/09

    In reply to 2010 Jaguar XJ: All New, No More Retro
    Oh dear. This does not bode well. I do like the Spirograph® background, however.
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    04/20/09

    @Graverobber: I'm also not feeling optimistic about this.
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    04/20/09

    In reply to 2010 Jaguar XJ: All New, No More Retro
    If it's as big a step forward as the Xf was, then Jaguar have done another good job.


    XJ-R?

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    04/20/09

    In reply to 2010 Jaguar XJ: All New, No More Retro
    It´s gonna share the hood with Volvo S80.
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    04/20/09

    In reply to 2010 Jaguar XJ: All New, No More Retro
    I actually kind of liked the XJ-S design, especially when paried with the V12.


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    04/20/09

    @Duke Sound Vtechen of Sleepenburg: I agree - too bad the engines in them were so unreliable.


    I was very tempted to buy one of these at one point and just swap out the motor.

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    04/20/09

    @weatherman:


    Agreed. Of course, what did Jaguar make around that time that was reliable?

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    04/20/09

    @Duke Sound Vtechen of Sleepenburg: Nothing, of course. But they looked so good just sitting by the side of the road, nobody cared!


    @cchannel: I think the XJ-S is an acquired taste. It certainly took some time for me to appreciate it. Sorta like the Corvette C3 for me - at first it's a little grotesque, then it sorta grows on you.


    The XJ6 from almost every year is a lovely car, but my preference (aesthetically at least) is for the Series II.

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    04/20/09

    @Duke Sound Vtechen of Sleepenburg: This was the last car blessed by Sir William Lyons. The story goes that once the designers had finished with the clay model, Sir William was brought in- nearly blind, and hobbled with age- and he ran his hands over the car. The designers held their breath, as it was just before Christmas, and they wanted to go home to be with their families. Lyons gave a nod, and said it would do. The designers went home and each tipped a glass in his honour. At least that's the myth.


    And these cars are a bit woeful in their reliability.

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    04/20/09

    @Duke Sound Vtechen of Sleepenburg: I might be a bit biased when it comes to the XJS. 'Tis a wonderful feeling when I take the $500 luxo-beater out for a drive. It could really use a tune up, but I haven't had a serious mechanical failure aside from a heater hose bursting 3 miles from home.


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    04/20/09

    @weatherman: Engine swaps are quite common on the XJ-S, as well as the sedans and the occasional hardtop coupe like ours.


    There are plenty of people offering kits for small block Chevys, and possibly Gen III and IV GM V8s. Or, you could do what this guy and some others have done:

    [jalopnik.com]

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    04/21/09

    @Tomsk aka Studly del Torquewrench, Esq.: sweet jesus, I think I just shat myself.
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