@Accordforall: Whoop the new Accord's? No doubt. This is probably on par with your Accord... which says something. "Yep, we're better than a new Japanese sedan, but... uh, well, have a look at this, Dave."
@FuzzyPlushroom: I think the Fusion is the only car left that's still in the same size class as the '00 and previous Accord, that could be part of the reason.
Personally, I'd put my money on the Fusion, but mostly because I've seen first-hand how much power is lost in older cars just due to things like lax maintenance. I spend a small fortune every year on replacing parts for my engine, not because they're broken, but because I actually want to USE the benefits of all the upgrades I've done...
I don't even look at the Fusion. Booorrrinnng. Plus, no middle option. You can either thrash the 4-banger or routinely get poor gas mileage with the big six. I prefer a light-pressure turbo that give 200+ horsepower when you need it while returning 30mpg highway, when you need it.
I am impressed by the 190hp 2.4 in the Accord, though. Too bad the rest of the car is a bit of a cow.
Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. was starred
Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. was unstarred
EXTERIOR DAY: Two neighbors are walking to their cars on conjoining driveways
BILL: New Camry there Jim?
JIM: (Smugly) Yep, just picked it up, pretty sweet huh? I'll bet you wished bought a Camry instead of a Ford Futile.
BILL: Not really Jim, my Ford FUSION gets better mileage than your Camry, looks better, and has a badge that doesn't look like a Vagina.
JIM: (Frowning) But my Toyota is better built, right? Toy-o-ta
BILL: (Shaking head) No Jim, JD Power, a well respected research firm, says that the Fusion is even more reliable than your Toyota.
JIM: (Jaw drops)
BILL: Not only that Jim, But I don't look like a tool when I drive my car. I can park anywhere I want without having to worry about a group of unemployed UAW workers taking a group dump through the sunroof, and since I bought the Fusion, I've been getting laid twice a day; in the morning with my wife, and a nooner with yours!
JIM: (Left speechless) Brenda?
BILL: See you later Jim, oh and you're taking your lunch to work again today, right?
EXTERIOR DAY: Bill gets into his FORD FUSION and backs out of the drive. Jim slams the door of his Camry and storms toward the house.
JIM: Brenda!
VO: Ford Fusion, best fuel economy of any midsize sedan, JD Power highest reliability, and sex drug. Have you driven anyone because of Ford today?
Fuel economy's great and all, but won't the real world results be a little skewed by the weekly trips to the dealership to deal with the 48 recalls on the power window switch?
@FuzzyPlushroom: You're technically accurate, however Ford (and GM, for that matter) are in the public perception battle. The perception of most Americans is that if you want reliability and good mpg's you buy Toyota or Honda. The US automakers are advertising that their cars are better than the Japanese to attack that perception directly. Saying that their fuel economy is better than GM's is not a perception-altering strategy.
Ford certainly is on a roll. I almost bought a V6 Fusion, but then I realized the V6 Mustang with manual trans got nearly the same mileage (I think it was 1 mpg different) and looks better. So I bought the Mustang. My wife hates it.
Hi. I'm Dave. I get better gas mileage than the Toyota Camry AND the Honda Accord in both hybrid and non-hybrid versions. I've been rated by J.D. Powers as being every bit as high in initial quality as those other cars too. And they're ugly. I'm not so ugly. Really. Sure, my nose looks like a really expensive razor blade. But that's cool. You'll see. It grows on you over time.
Once again, I'm Dave. I'm the new mid-size from Ford. I know when people hear the word Ford they either think of Mustangs or NASCAR or big ol' American trucks. That's cool too. Just as long as you don't think about all the transmission problems my old cousin Taurus had. Or the exploding gas tank my crazy aunt Pinto had.
Forget them. I'm Dave. Me. Dave. They had their problems, but not me. I'm cool. I've been through rehab. All the bugs are worked out. See?
Buy me. You can call me Fusion. Nobody wants a car named Dave, I get that. Wait... where are you going? I just told you, I get better gas mileage than those guys...
Look, forget about all the snobbery for a minute, okay? Sure, people might look down on you if you buy a Ford. I get it. But screw 'em. This isn't about them. It's about you and me. Me. Dave. I have a cool talking computer, see? It's called SYNC and it plays your mp3s... you know, all those mp3s you downloaded off Limewire? Yeah, I can play those. Can your Camry? Huh? Can your Accord?
You people have got to get over this crap about buying an American car. What are you? Unpatriotic? So what if the Camry is built in Kentucky? That doesn't make it an American car. I'm Dave, I'm American. Buy me. ME!
Fine, do whatever you want. You people are bigots. Reverse bigots! Yeah, that's right. You won't even give me a chance because you think I'm American. Well you know what? SCREW YOU! That's right. I'm a Japanese car under all this. Ever heard of the Mazda 6? Huh? Well, that's ME baby! Dave! I'm nothing but a Mazda 6 with a few hundred pounds of flab. Didn't recognize me, did you?
Well, it's too late now. Go to your Toyota dealership. Buy a Camry. See if I care. I'm Dave. I'm cool. I'm just gonna kick back with an ice cold Schlitz and watch all you suckers burn more gas than you would have if you'd bought me and laugh! That's right, LAUGH!
What... what's that... you think I came on too strong?
Okay, let me try this again. Hello. My name is Dave.
@WilliamG.: Well, my experience is that making Fords in Mexico makes them even more like the bad old Fords we remember and hate so much. Even with Mazda components.
@tekamul: Comrade. Do not bad mouthink People's Proud Socialist Volga Type Automotive Vehicle. Now stand facing Moscow and sing Glorious National Anthem of People's Union of Soviet Republics...
Sadly, no one will switch from a camry to a fusion due to the fusion being built by Ford and the camry being built by infallible geniuses from the far east.
@philibuster: Camry's are assembled in Kentucky, and (insert your hillbilly/redneck/bumpkin/slack jawed yokel/peckerwood inspired attempt at humor here).
Scroggzilla A Native West Virginian and not one to judge
You know what I don't get? Gas prices have gone up at least two dimes in the last week here. They've climbed a nickel at my local joint overnight (the flash-frozen donuts, thankfully, have stayed stable). WHY? The New Old Conflict in the middle east? GAZA HAS NO FUCKING OIL. Hamas can shoot rockets over and into Jerusalem all they like and Israel can blow up as many hospitals as it bloody well pleases, but until Iran or some other country that's actually sitting on some of the black stuff gets involved I don't see why I should have to pay more at the pump.
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And this is why the bloat of the curren Accord / Camry IS A BAD THING!
Thats alright my 00 Accord with 177k would still woop its ass!
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Personally, I'd put my money on the Fusion, but mostly because I've seen first-hand how much power is lost in older cars just due to things like lax maintenance. I spend a small fortune every year on replacing parts for my engine, not because they're broken, but because I actually want to USE the benefits of all the upgrades I've done...
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I am impressed by the 190hp 2.4 in the Accord, though. Too bad the rest of the car is a bit of a cow.
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EXTERIOR DAY: Two neighbors are walking to their cars on conjoining driveways
BILL: New Camry there Jim?
JIM: (Smugly) Yep, just picked it up, pretty sweet huh? I'll bet you wished bought a Camry instead of a Ford Futile.
BILL: Not really Jim, my Ford FUSION gets better mileage than your Camry, looks better, and has a badge that doesn't look like a Vagina.
JIM: (Frowning) But my Toyota is better built, right? Toy-o-ta
BILL: (Shaking head) No Jim, JD Power, a well respected research firm, says that the Fusion is even more reliable than your Toyota.
JIM: (Jaw drops)
BILL: Not only that Jim, But I don't look like a tool when I drive my car. I can park anywhere I want without having to worry about a group of unemployed UAW workers taking a group dump through the sunroof, and since I bought the Fusion, I've been getting laid twice a day; in the morning with my wife, and a nooner with yours!
JIM: (Left speechless) Brenda?
BILL: See you later Jim, oh and you're taking your lunch to work again today, right?
EXTERIOR DAY: Bill gets into his FORD FUSION and backs out of the drive. Jim slams the door of his Camry and storms toward the house.
JIM: Brenda!
VO: Ford Fusion, best fuel economy of any midsize sedan, JD Power highest reliability, and sex drug. Have you driven anyone because of Ford today?
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Time after time -
we've filled our tanks
and left without a dime -
And bad mistakes
they've made a few
we've had our share of busted valve bodies blowing up in customer faces -
But we've come through
We are the champions - my friends
And we'll keep on driving - till the end -
We are the champions -
We are the champions
No time for guzzlers
'Cause we are the champions - of the 'merica -
they've taken their bows
and their profits have raised -
we've brought you fame and fortune and everything that goes with it
-
we thank you all -
But it's been no golden parachute
No government bailout -
they've consider it a challenge before the whole auto industry -
And they ain't gonna be sold -
We are the champions - my friends
And we'll keep on driving - till the end -
We are the champions -
We are the champions
No time for guzzlers
'Cause we are the champions - of the 'merica -
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America...
America, F*CK YEAH!
Coming again, to save the mother f*cking gas yeah,
America, F*CK YEAH!
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Because you know, the G6, Aura and Malibu all get better gas milage than the camry and accord
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Once again, I'm Dave. I'm the new mid-size from Ford. I know when people hear the word Ford they either think of Mustangs or NASCAR or big ol' American trucks. That's cool too. Just as long as you don't think about all the transmission problems my old cousin Taurus had. Or the exploding gas tank my crazy aunt Pinto had.
Forget them. I'm Dave. Me. Dave. They had their problems, but not me. I'm cool. I've been through rehab. All the bugs are worked out. See?
Buy me. You can call me Fusion. Nobody wants a car named Dave, I get that. Wait... where are you going? I just told you, I get better gas mileage than those guys...
Look, forget about all the snobbery for a minute, okay? Sure, people might look down on you if you buy a Ford. I get it. But screw 'em. This isn't about them. It's about you and me. Me. Dave. I have a cool talking computer, see? It's called SYNC and it plays your mp3s... you know, all those mp3s you downloaded off Limewire? Yeah, I can play those. Can your Camry? Huh? Can your Accord?
You people have got to get over this crap about buying an American car. What are you? Unpatriotic? So what if the Camry is built in Kentucky? That doesn't make it an American car. I'm Dave, I'm American. Buy me. ME!
Fine, do whatever you want. You people are bigots. Reverse bigots! Yeah, that's right. You won't even give me a chance because you think I'm American. Well you know what? SCREW YOU! That's right. I'm a Japanese car under all this. Ever heard of the Mazda 6? Huh? Well, that's ME baby! Dave! I'm nothing but a Mazda 6 with a few hundred pounds of flab. Didn't recognize me, did you?
Well, it's too late now. Go to your Toyota dealership. Buy a Camry. See if I care. I'm Dave. I'm cool. I'm just gonna kick back with an ice cold Schlitz and watch all you suckers burn more gas than you would have if you'd bought me and laugh! That's right, LAUGH!
What... what's that... you think I came on too strong?
Okay, let me try this again. Hello. My name is Dave.
Wait... you can't just walk away... WAIT!
*throws confetti up in the air, weeps softly*
I'm Dave. Why doesn't anyone love me?
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Wait... what?
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@tekamul: Comrade. Do not bad mouthink People's Proud Socialist Volga Type Automotive Vehicle. Now stand facing Moscow and sing Glorious National Anthem of People's Union of Soviet Republics...
01/09/09
Сплотила навеки Великая Русь!
Да здравствует созданный волей народов
Единый, могучий Советский Союз!
ПРИПЕВ:
Славься, Отечество наше свободное,
Дружбы народов надёжный оплот!
Партия Ленина - сила народная
Нас к торжеству коммунизма ведёт!
Сквозь грозы сияло нам солнце свободы,
И Ленин великий нам путь озарил:
На правое дело он поднял народы,
На труд и на подвиги нас вдохновил!
ПРИПЕВ
В победе бессмертных идей коммунизма
Мы видим грядущее нашей страны,
И Красному знамени славной Отчизны
Мы будем всегда беззаветно верны!
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Scroggzilla
A Native West Virginian
and not one to judge
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@SCROGGZILLA RAIDS AGAIN!!: That's hot.
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Oh hey Good Jorb Ford.
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