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    12:45 PM

    In reply to 2011 BMW 5-Series Officially Shows Us Its Headlights
    The Partial Tablecloth Reveal Meme is getting really old.
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    09:56 AM

    In reply to 2011 BMW 5-Series Officially Shows Us Its Headlights
    Looks like there's something a little bit Bentley about the nose.
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    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    12:00 PM

    @weatherman: You're right... it's the way the top part and upper corners are shaped, innit?

    In pic 3 - it's got a bit of a snarl going on, it seems. Wonder if the performance can back that up.
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    09:50 AM

    In reply to 2011 BMW 5-Series Officially Shows Us Its Headlights
    Nice car....I like the wheels. It looks like a BMW. Imagine that.
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    Image of UDMan UDMan
    09:28 AM

    In reply to 2011 BMW 5-Series Officially Shows Us Its Headlights
    As with any new BMW, it's ugly, but should sell well to all the fashionistas.
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    Image of Paul Y. don't drive too fast. Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
    10:05 AM

    @UDMan: The outgoing model is one of the ugliest cars available today in the NA market, so pretty much anything is an improvement.

    ...and yeah, it will sell, because it's a 5er.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    01:40 PM

    @UDMan: I will agree that the last generation wasn't pretty, but sometimes, I just don't care what the car looks like on the outside if it drives the way the company 5-er drives.

    This new one does look better so far, though.
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    Image of Turboner Turboner
    11/21/09

    In reply to 2011 Hyundai Genesis: "Tau" V8 Gets A 10 HP Bump
    I'm sure the irridium spark plugs had so much to do with it.
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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    11/20/09

    In reply to 2011 Hyundai Genesis: "Tau" V8 Gets A 10 HP Bump
    Wow, because nobody has ever found a way to squeeze less than half a dozen horsepower from an engine by tinkering with the manifolds before.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/20/09

    In reply to 2011 Hyundai Genesis: "Tau" V8 Gets A 10 HP Bump
    I still have a hard time believing that they didn't design the Genesis coupe big enough to accept the Tau V8.
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    11/20/09

    @pauljones: Oh they did, you just have to put it in the back.

    [jalopnik.com]
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/20/09

    @PowerTryp, Starless wonder.: Yeah, no. That doesn't qualify.

    Hyundai should have designed the coupe's engine bay to accept the Tau V8. Had they done so from the beginning, I don't think it would have cost them too much extra money, and it would give them and aftermarket tuners a lot more flexibility with the platform.

    #tips
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    Image of PowerTryp, Starless wonder. PowerTryp, Starless wonder.
    11/20/09

    @pauljones: I thought it was a good joke.

    The whole problem is that they failed to use the same platform for the two cars that share a name, so I wouldn't doubt that you could stuff the Tau V8 in the front of a Coupe but when your V6 already makes 300 HP then whats the point especially when the V6 weighs less.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/20/09

    @PowerTryp, Starless wonder.: Platform growth potential.

    The Camaro just came out, and the base model has an engine just as powerful as the high-end Genesis coupe (although the Camaro is actually a tenth of a second or two slower due to its weight, though it get better mileage), and the Camaro SS leaves the Genesis in the dust.

    The 2011 Mustang will have a base engine more powerful than the Genesis coupe's premium engine, and won't have the same weight disadvantage that the Camaro has. And the 2011 Mustang GT? It, too, will leave the Genesis coupe in a cloud of dust and tire smoke.

    Granted, the base price for the highest Genesis coupe trim line undercuts the base Camaro SS and Mustang GT price by a grand or two, but for that extra grand or two, you get a hell of a lot.

    Where the Genesis coupe makes the least sense is stacked up against the base models of the 2010 Camaro and the 2011 Mustang, which are at the least it's peer in power, get better mileage, and are more refined than the Genesis coupe; all for a price that is in the same ballpark of a base, 4-cyl Genesis coupe.

    Had Hyundai designed a little more growth potential into the Genesis coupe platform by designing it to accept the Tau V8, they could have made the platform more competitive in a broader field.

    #tips
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    Image of GreenN_Gold GreenN_Gold
    11/20/09

    @pauljones: Don't expect Hyundai to cow tao to you whims by designing the coupe to accomodate the big 'ol V8 cow Tau.
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    Image of dal20402 dal20402
    11/20/09

    @PowerTryp, Starless wonder.: Good point on the weight. Does anyone know the weights of the 3.8 and the Tau?

    The Genesis Coupe is a bit smaller than its domestic competition. I'm thinking a V8 model would be very front-heavy.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/20/09

    @dal20402: I've been trying to find the weight and dimensions of the Genesis engines, but, ironically, those seem to be the only bits of information I can't find about them.
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    Image of alowishus wants to run a Saab Sonett III at LeMons alowishus wants to run a Saab Sonett III at LeMons
    11/20/09

    @pauljones: Somehow I don't think the Genesis Coupe is competing with big 'Merican muscle cars.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/20/09

    @alowishus wants to run a Saab Sonett III at LeMons: It isn't? Then what was it that was Hyundai's rationale for bringing the Genesis coupe to the market?

    @Mixtronic: So can the Camaro and the Mustang. The Challenger? Well, not quite as well, but it's far from scary.
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    Image of alowishus wants to run a Saab Sonett III at LeMons alowishus wants to run a Saab Sonett III at LeMons
    11/21/09

    @pauljones: Yeah yeah yeah, I know they went and slapped the mustang and all that. But seriously, show me a guy who wants to buy a Mustang who's going to be swayed by a Genesis. My point being that in the real world, the yokels who want muscle cars won't be drawn to the the Genesis. It'll be young moderately successful guys and the JDM set.

    #tips
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/21/09

    @alowishus wants to run a Saab Sonett III at LeMons: You make a fair point from the standpoint that a Mustang guy is a Mustang guy is a Mustang guy.

    But the truth is, the majority of people in the non-premium sporty, RWD coupe market (in which the Genesis, Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, 370Z, and RX-8 compete) aren't necessarily Mustang people. They are people out to buy a car in that class, and while they may have a short list, they are likely to consider alternatives based on the deals they can get and other similar criteria.

    So yes, the Genesis does indeed compete with the Mustang.

    #tips
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    Image of tmp00 tmp00
    11/20/09

    In reply to Chevy Volt "Chirps," Warns Pedestrians Of Impending Silent Vehicular Manslaughter
    I want it to sound like the flying saucers on "UFO"
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    Image of GreenN_Gold GreenN_Gold
    11/20/09

    In reply to Chevy Volt "Chirps," Warns Pedestrians Of Impending Silent Vehicular Manslaughter
    Ambient Metallica. Problem solved.
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    Image of skitter skitter
    11/20/09

    @GreenN_Gold: Ambient Metallica would be a great name for a rock band.

    Wait....
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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    11/20/09

    In reply to Chevy Volt "Chirps," Warns Pedestrians Of Impending Silent Vehicular Manslaughter
    I want mine to scream like Sam Kinison...
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11/20/09

    @Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: lol best horn ever. I was thinking a chorus of Bobcat Goldthwait and Gilbert Gottfried.
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    11/20/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: I think those horns would give #RoofCoffeCup some serious competition....
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    11/20/09

    In reply to Chevy Volt "Chirps," Warns Pedestrians Of Impending Silent Vehicular Manslaughter
    I'll take one in duck call, please.
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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    11/20/09

    In reply to Chevy Volt "Chirps," Warns Pedestrians Of Impending Silent Vehicular Manslaughter
    My car already has this feature. As soon as I see a pedestrian, I push the button.

    This lowers the driver's side window, whereupon I yell, "GET THE FUCK OUTTA THE STREET, JACKASS!" as I speed by.

    Works every time.
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11/20/09

    @OMG! Ponies!: And you can't get fined if there's a no honking sign.
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    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    11/21/09

    @OMG! Ponies!: You get a heart-click for that one. Also, for still being the best Gawker Media commenter name. Ever. OMG! Awesome!
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    11/20/09

    In reply to Chevy Volt "Chirps," Warns Pedestrians Of Impending Silent Vehicular Manslaughter
    We so need a 10 best automotive chyrons.
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    Image of Mobius Mobius
    11/20/09

    In reply to Chevy Volt "Chirps," Warns Pedestrians Of Impending Silent Vehicular Manslaughter
    I am hoping this feature could be implemented on more vehicles, especially those whose default horns are as loud as the end of the whole goddamned world.

    Yes, I'm looking at you, trucks. I leap in staggered shock every time one of your bloody airhorns blast into the stratosphere and scare birds and elks and lions and tigers and elephants and cats.

    Like, seriously, do you need to?

    Oh, wait, you do, because it's all you've got. Sure, it's just about preferable to being run over by you, but I'd much rather you get a chirper or a musical horn (try James May's policecar horn) and not scare the s*** out of me.
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    Image of FrankGrimes FrankGrimes
    11/20/09

    In reply to Chevy Volt "Chirps," Warns Pedestrians Of Impending Silent Vehicular Manslaughter
    A stink alert would be better and contribute to a quieter serene environment. I propose a system by which Calvin Klein's Obsession would be atomized into the air alerting pedestrians to the presence of your electric silent mobile. This would also benefit the deaf and the soon to be deaf (those with headphones on).

    Now for the acronym to make it legit OFAL
    Olactory Forwarning Automobile Logic
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