I've noticed that Chinese motorcycles are probably the most expensive motorcycle purchase you can possibly make. You buy in low, but parts cost quickly mount.
Better to buy a battered old Virago. It'll run longer and you won't be in such a hot hurry to move up to a bigger bike.
Also: Kudos to Bumbeck devising a way to safely drop the turkey into the grease. My way is to get my brother in law to do it.
Also: Knoxville TN cops are screening crazy hard - go five miles over the limit and you'll get flagged. I don't think there'd be more cops on the roads if they thought we were being invade by the Taliban.
Also in Knoxville: Jim Cogdill Dodge is trying to sell brand new, never sold, 2008 Dodge and Chrysler products at $13,000. Still got the whole warranty, it's still a brand-new car at a used car price. It might be a better deal, assuming Chrysler's still around in five years for parts support.
I'd have included the corncob car in the list. It's light, aerodynamic, has a pedestrian-friendly skin, and can be constructed from renewable materials.
Best of all, any cornfed kid in the heartland can make their very own car.
Not so sure lemon wheels would be good for an open-air car -- at least without wearing goggles.
Silly Sammy. You're thankful for an overweight arse dragging snobby croutwagon whilst the lithe and sexy Italians are building proper soul stirring hot hatches (Alf Mito & Abarth 500).
See, you scribes should realise that is ME, yes ME who is always correct and everybody else who doesn't agree with ME is wro...
Oh shit, sorry Sammy, sorry Jalopnik, sorry America. I'm such an arsehole. An arsehole who forgets that poor poor America wouldn't know about the two said automotive wonderments being they're not available in the land of milf and money.
@LandofMinos, cast thou evil bum dragger to thy scrapyard:
You sound like a disgruntled European, no offense to normal Europeans. Its hard to be thankful for something that you cant get for a few years (the 500) Our muscle cars have a certain charm, just like an Alfa or a Fiat 500 have, speaking of Alfa the (standard) Mita is about as sexy as a cross-eyed pig I do like the GTA though.
@gearhead_318: BZZZZT! Sorry you're incorrect. disgruntled yes, European no. Never mind you still go to round two...
I come from a land who builds proper muscle cars but the driver would sit on what you would call the wrong side. We even convert American muscle cars to right hand drive!
i am truly torn with the decision between pics 1 and 11............ holy s**t.. how about an green/aero-bodied caterham that looks like a corn cob. my dreams are complete...
mid-western america, watch out for me in the next 15-20 yrs or so... when i can finally build it...
This list isn't about which models Jalops are thankful for. It is about ideals, it's about soul, it's about ingenuity.
It is about humanity, and everything wonderful we have created.
An insane, over-engineered, leather-wrapped rocket, an unruly, redneck sledgehammer, a protein-fueled, space-age-material'd Spitfire of the roads, a Skynet-beating, neck-breaking robot for the Nurburgring, a sometimes sensible, sometimes crazy nausea machine for four, a near-flawless precision crafted German with a sense of fun and such a wonderful aura that Bangle is almost forgiven, a much-maligned and often forgotten boy-in-the-corner-of-the-classroom who does everything the hard way but somehow, somehow, still matches the rest of the class, a baby cut off from the umbilical cord of homologation, but grew into a world-beating athlete with a big mouth to eat up everything it catches up to, and finally, two reminders from yesteryears to Detroit and Stuttgart and Turin and Tokyo that Iacocca and Chapman were two of the brightest of all humans.
@Mobius: You make a very good point. Each of these vehicles is very different to the others and does things in its own unique way (with the possible exception of the Seven and the Elise, between which the lineage is clear and the concept similar).
However, each is completely remarkable for how well it completes its intended purpose. Each does this because every one is the purest fulfillment of a very simple idea.
1. Uber.
2. American supercar.
3. Agility.
4. Digital speed.
5. Everyday speed.
6. Utter competence.
7. Challenge every convention.
8. Fast in any conditions.
9. Muscle car unplugged.
10. Go fast.
When a single, simple philosophy is utterly embraced and commonly understood by every member of a car's design, engineering and production teams, these cars are the result.
Funny thing is I could care less for ant of these cars. Yes, Al Navarro gave me a ride in his Se7en, but I still wouldn't want to own one.
The Evo? Nope. The Bugatti? I really hope they all go into the lake. Any BMW? Not a chance. Same goes for the Vette, the Lotus, the Mazda, and I owned a VW once, and never again.
The only car even remotely thankful for would be the Mustang, and I owned a Fox Bodied Mustang, and I have serious doubts as to whether I would own another 'Stang.
@UDMan:
The only reason I agree with these cars is the fact that they're keeping the "Driver's car" spirit alive.
There seems to be one for everyone up there.
Extremely expensive and fast?
Veyron
High revving japanese drifter?
RX-8
European handling machine?
Exige
Extremely lightweight and pure?
Caterham Seven
American Pony/Muscle car?
Mustang
American Sports brute?
Corvette
Sports Sedan?
BMW
Techno monster?
GT-R
AWD Rallyist?
Mitsu Evo
Hot Hatch?
GTI
I think the only category that's not covered is the pure luxury, but most of those buyers ride in the back...
Just curious, what new cars would you be thankful for?
@Joe Valasek: Hmmm, that is a very interesting question. OK, off the top of my head, these are the cars I would be thankful for, even though most of these you can't get right now.
I'm thankful for the Sprinter Van, because Mercedes decided to take it away from the Dodge Dealers, and now I can make my margins again.
I'm thankful to Chrysler for all their engineering they put into the Gas Turbine, a powerplant that should be revived because it will run on anything (Gas, LPG, Diesel, Alcohol, Jack Daniels, Perfume, Methane) with controlled emissions.
I'm thankful to Ford for finally bringing in a practical Commercial Vehicle (The Transit Connect), as well as the 2013 Transit (Sprinter Sized) van, which will replace the 20 year old Econoline. (On that note, Dodge will bring in a couple of Iveco Vans, and a Fiat to compete with the Transit Connect, and Mercedes is thinking about bringing in the Vanio)
I'm thankful for some really great economy cars coming down the pike, like the Fiesta, the Cruz, and maybe a couple of Fiat or Alfa Romeo models.
I'm thankful that America still has a love affair with the full sized Pickup.
I'm thankful that the entire Detroit Auto Industry didn't actually implode.
@UDMan:
Looks like a good list. I probably wouldn't have put so many vans on my list, but I will definitely agree with the Fiesta and Fiats that are coming down the pipe.
What America really needs is a honestly fun and quality made small vehicle, especially from the American companies.
Veyron: "It is yin and yang, Jalop and anti-Jalop."
GTR: "Because it is everything wrong with Japan's car industry. Because it is also everything right."
Mustang: "It is an argument for and against everything we stand for..."
Let me guess: Your favorite TV show was Kung Fu, your nickname in high school was "Stoner," and you never could figure out what was so funny about The Sphinx in Mystery Men.
@Tanshanomi: I differ, as I prefer long winded meandering thoughts with questionable, yet amusing, word placement, that seems to fall face first into a metaphor, like when you assume you know where the bathroom is in your home, but since you have a head cold you find yourself urinating on the vacuum, but perhaps shorter, and with something automotive related at the very end, so as to actually be entertaining to gear heads. Sebring.
All fantastic choices, leaving me with this thought: Could citrus slice tyres really support the weight of a giant corncob roadster driven by two adult turkeys?
@Joe Valasek: I'm definitely a Ford person. I was hoping my sarcasm came through to those who bad mouth the Mustang's editions. You have every reason to be proud of your Mach 1.....I envy you!!
@Joe Valasek: Really, only a few guys would have caught my comment as being sarcastic. We had a discussion last week about the "editions". So, actually, my joke backfired.....those guys probably didn't even read it. ;)
11/26/09
Better to buy a battered old Virago. It'll run longer and you won't be in such a hot hurry to move up to a bigger bike.
Also: Kudos to Bumbeck devising a way to safely drop the turkey into the grease. My way is to get my brother in law to do it.
Also: Knoxville TN cops are screening crazy hard - go five miles over the limit and you'll get flagged. I don't think there'd be more cops on the roads if they thought we were being invade by the Taliban.
Also in Knoxville: Jim Cogdill Dodge is trying to sell brand new, never sold, 2008 Dodge and Chrysler products at $13,000. Still got the whole warranty, it's still a brand-new car at a used car price. It might be a better deal, assuming Chrysler's still around in five years for parts support.
11/26/09
Best of all, any cornfed kid in the heartland can make their very own car.
Not so sure lemon wheels would be good for an open-air car -- at least without wearing goggles.
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See, you scribes should realise that is ME, yes ME who is always correct and everybody else who doesn't agree with ME is wro...
Oh shit, sorry Sammy, sorry Jalopnik, sorry America. I'm such an arsehole. An arsehole who forgets that poor poor America wouldn't know about the two said automotive wonderments being they're not available in the land of milf and money.
11/25/09
You sound like a disgruntled European, no offense to normal Europeans. Its hard to be thankful for something that you cant get for a few years (the 500) Our muscle cars have a certain charm, just like an Alfa or a Fiat 500 have, speaking of Alfa the (standard) Mita is about as sexy as a cross-eyed pig I do like the GTA though.
11/26/09
@gearhead_318: BZZZZT! Sorry you're incorrect. disgruntled yes, European no. Never mind you still go to round two...
I come from a land who builds proper muscle cars but the driver would sit on what you would call the wrong side. We even convert American muscle cars to right hand drive!
11/25/09
mid-western america, watch out for me in the next 15-20 yrs or so... when i can finally build it...
speeding corn, awesome.
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It is about humanity, and everything wonderful we have created.
An insane, over-engineered, leather-wrapped rocket, an unruly, redneck sledgehammer, a protein-fueled, space-age-material'd Spitfire of the roads, a Skynet-beating, neck-breaking robot for the Nurburgring, a sometimes sensible, sometimes crazy nausea machine for four, a near-flawless precision crafted German with a sense of fun and such a wonderful aura that Bangle is almost forgiven, a much-maligned and often forgotten boy-in-the-corner-of-the-classroom who does everything the hard way but somehow, somehow, still matches the rest of the class, a baby cut off from the umbilical cord of homologation, but grew into a world-beating athlete with a big mouth to eat up everything it catches up to, and finally, two reminders from yesteryears to Detroit and Stuttgart and Turin and Tokyo that Iacocca and Chapman were two of the brightest of all humans.
11/25/09
However, each is completely remarkable for how well it completes its intended purpose. Each does this because every one is the purest fulfillment of a very simple idea.
1. Uber.
2. American supercar.
3. Agility.
4. Digital speed.
5. Everyday speed.
6. Utter competence.
7. Challenge every convention.
8. Fast in any conditions.
9. Muscle car unplugged.
10. Go fast.
When a single, simple philosophy is utterly embraced and commonly understood by every member of a car's design, engineering and production teams, these cars are the result.
11/25/09
Thank you, and *click!*
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The Evo? Nope. The Bugatti? I really hope they all go into the lake. Any BMW? Not a chance. Same goes for the Vette, the Lotus, the Mazda, and I owned a VW once, and never again.
The only car even remotely thankful for would be the Mustang, and I owned a Fox Bodied Mustang, and I have serious doubts as to whether I would own another 'Stang.
11/25/09
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The only reason I agree with these cars is the fact that they're keeping the "Driver's car" spirit alive.
There seems to be one for everyone up there.
Extremely expensive and fast?
Veyron
High revving japanese drifter?
RX-8
European handling machine?
Exige
Extremely lightweight and pure?
Caterham Seven
American Pony/Muscle car?
Mustang
American Sports brute?
Corvette
Sports Sedan?
BMW
Techno monster?
GT-R
AWD Rallyist?
Mitsu Evo
Hot Hatch?
GTI
I think the only category that's not covered is the pure luxury, but most of those buyers ride in the back...
Just curious, what new cars would you be thankful for?
11/25/09
I'm thankful for the Sprinter Van, because Mercedes decided to take it away from the Dodge Dealers, and now I can make my margins again.
I'm thankful to Chrysler for all their engineering they put into the Gas Turbine, a powerplant that should be revived because it will run on anything (Gas, LPG, Diesel, Alcohol, Jack Daniels, Perfume, Methane) with controlled emissions.
I'm thankful to Ford for finally bringing in a practical Commercial Vehicle (The Transit Connect), as well as the 2013 Transit (Sprinter Sized) van, which will replace the 20 year old Econoline. (On that note, Dodge will bring in a couple of Iveco Vans, and a Fiat to compete with the Transit Connect, and Mercedes is thinking about bringing in the Vanio)
I'm thankful for some really great economy cars coming down the pike, like the Fiesta, the Cruz, and maybe a couple of Fiat or Alfa Romeo models.
I'm thankful that America still has a love affair with the full sized Pickup.
I'm thankful that the entire Detroit Auto Industry didn't actually implode.
Is that enough for you?
11/25/09
Looks like a good list. I probably wouldn't have put so many vans on my list, but I will definitely agree with the Fiesta and Fiats that are coming down the pipe.
What America really needs is a honestly fun and quality made small vehicle, especially from the American companies.
11/25/09
GTR: "Because it is everything wrong with Japan's car industry. Because it is also everything right."
Mustang: "It is an argument for and against everything we stand for..."
Let me guess: Your favorite TV show was Kung Fu, your nickname in high school was "Stoner," and you never could figure out what was so funny about The Sphinx in Mystery Men.
11/25/09
(What can I say? I like things that contradict themselves. And my nickname in high school was something unprintable.)
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All fine choices, Sam. But I have to nominate my favorite British cottage built piece of insanity....the F1-67.
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Special Editions
Special Special Editions
Limited Editions
Unlimited Editions
11/25/09
There's nothing wrong with a special edition if they actually do something to it. The current GT/CS is kind of lame though.
(Proud owner of a 2004 Mach 1)
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Be not envious, my friend!
I suppose my sarcasm meeter is out of calibration, I should go for a drive until it is reset.
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Yay, somebody understands!! Hi!
11/25/09
You forgot about the Especial Edition for the foreigners.
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