ok. i'll admit i like nascar in that i've watched for a long time, and for some reason can't stop. maybe i need detox? but, i'm addicted to all motorsports. i watched all 18 hours of coverage of the 24hours of lemans, and i'm not denying that i have a problem. i really miss watching the btcc. now those were stock cars, and speed doesn't show it anymore. anyhoo, it doesn't matter what stickers you put on the body, nascar cars are all the same underneath. the only difference you'll find is where the distributor is located depending on what manufacturer made the identical engines. they are pretty much a type of spec racer. just about all pave track stock cars are that way. what sucks even worse is that the big cup teams are turning all the grassroots series into their own personal driver development. i miss the days when greasy mechanics and shop owners brought their racecar out to play in the grassroots. this mustang won't make much of a difference except that dealers can put pictures of it in their dealerships.
@Tossed Accordtaco salad over Malibu: i agree totally about lemans. skill is also involved in the pits in lemans as compared to nascar. nascar gas and tires while lemans is brake rotors, radiator, tires, drivers, and whatever else breaks. i was attempting to express my dissappointment in a sport i really liked for a long time that just seems to be going down hill and nobody wants to stop it. i want stock cars again that have the c.i. written on the hood and people are chevy fans or ford fans or dodge fans and not dale jr fans.
@Tossed Accordtaco salad over Malibu: and one more thing. nascar does bring in alot of revenue for tracks. fontana for example. if nascar goes, california speedway could go. not only would you lose an oval, you would lose a road course, a 1/4 mile dragstrip, a cart track, and a nice autocross area. NASA races there, SCCA races there, motorcycles, weekend bracket races(i wish they'd put lights on the strip), solo races, carters, and so on. there are some positives that nascar brings to other forms of racing.
@something_unique_and_descripti...: Wait, they don't sell carbureted engines anymore (and I had to google the correct spelling of "carbureted" as I never encountered it before {and starts to make no sense as I say it repeatedly} )?
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@something_unique_and_descripti...: Here's the solution I've thrown around a couple times. Kill Bill France. Kill all his relatives. Kill any Nascar fans in France (if such a thing exists). Replace him with a couple V8 Supercar-obsessed Aussies. We all win that way.
Nobody is going to race a Ford Mustang in NASCAR. They will race a "Mustang-like" car. The actual race car will be nearly identical to the other cars in the series which bear little to no relation to the cars that actually drive on the road. Grow up.
Now, if you want to see real cars in a real race, go watch a LeMons Series race.
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Put on a new set of headlight stickers, yadda yadda yadda.
It doesn't share any parts with the Mustang, durka durka durka.
If you don't like Nascar or the Mustang, fine, but why bother commenting? It's an old bit.
PS: Suck it suck it suck it.
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I think NASCAR is somewhat interesting, but completely irrelevant.
Tell me... what parts will the NASCAR Mustang share with a Mustang you can actually buy?
Nah... The Euro Rally Car racing is far more relevant and interesting. And arguably, The 24 Hours of Lemons race is one of the MOST relevant races in existence.
@petersterncan: You really think its far more relevant? other than the main body (not fenders, or bumpers or hood) and the engine block list me off 3 parts that that car shares directly with a Focus on the street in Europe.
I'm not a NASCAR fan but all the hating is really annoying. It's obvious to me this a cultural thing which, as they always are, comes from a place of ignorance, intolerance and fear.
Also, who cares if Ford puts new stickers on their stock cars.
@GV_Goat: I can't speak for anyone else, but for me, it's just because circle track racing is boring, and I can't bring myself to care about a bunch of identical tube frame racers when their predecessors, like the Superbird and 427 Galaxie, were so much more badass.
This what's great about a free country. Don't watch it. Enough of your "southern" brethren drop their paychecks on it to make it one of, if not the, most popular Motorsports in the world. They obviously like it just the way it is.
To me, it's kinda like bitching about someone that custom orders a car. It's their money, they like it that way, they fund it (not you). So STFU and go support the type of racing you like. :)
oh god. For just a second I was excited that Nascar would understand their diminishing market is directly due to their diminishing commonality to production cars. Give me a body-in-white cars with 600 horsepower spec motors. Much like '70's Trans Am Racing.....I can get into something that evolved from what I ACTUALLY DRIVE ON THE STREET.
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Alright...
Please...
Please dont mention Lemans in the same breath as Nascar.
With Lemans.. there is actual skill involved, as well as driving under all conditions.
Best part...
Camry is involved, along with Fusion, (Intripid / Charger were involved) Some GM vehicle was...
Its all stickers.. and theres no real fun or work in it.
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I'll give two shits when the body and engine actually resemble the production car. These piece of shit ubiquitous nascars are horrible.
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SECONDED heartily.
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Fourthed.
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"Ford Mustang STICKERS officially coming to NASCAR!"
There ya go.
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Is this a joke?
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Now, if you want to see real cars in a real race, go watch a LeMons Series race.
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Epic Fail.
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Or maybe revive the SOHC 427. And when it gets outlawed (again), let DMG allow it to be fitted in a Buell for AMA.
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It doesn't share any parts with the Mustang, durka durka durka.
If you don't like Nascar or the Mustang, fine, but why bother commenting? It's an old bit.
PS: Suck it suck it suck it.
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I'm waiting for Honda to enter a V8 VTEC Accord special edition this year and a new one every year thereafter.
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Tell me... what parts will the NASCAR Mustang share with a Mustang you can actually buy?
Nah... The Euro Rally Car racing is far more relevant and interesting. And arguably, The 24 Hours of Lemons race is one of the MOST relevant races in existence.
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@petersterncan: You really think its far more relevant? other than the main body (not fenders, or bumpers or hood) and the engine block list me off 3 parts that that car shares directly with a Focus on the street in Europe.
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Also, who cares if Ford puts new stickers on their stock cars.
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@Fading Captain:
This what's great about a free country. Don't watch it. Enough of your "southern" brethren drop their paychecks on it to make it one of, if not the, most popular Motorsports in the world. They obviously like it just the way it is.
To me, it's kinda like bitching about someone that custom orders a car. It's their money, they like it that way, they fund it (not you). So STFU and go support the type of racing you like. :)
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Road Car:
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@muhnkee_2 - jaloping from sunny sao paulo:
Sorry mixed my generations there, this is the current road car: