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    And Here's Your 2010 North American Car, Truck Of The Year Finalists!

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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    10/01/09

    In reply to And Here's Your 2010 North American Car, Truck Of The Year Finalists!
    I'd pick the Camaro and SRX. :P
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    10/01/09

    In reply to And Here's Your 2010 North American Car, Truck Of The Year Finalists!
    so, in order for it to be a "truck", body on frame? is that it?
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    10/01/09

    @Unregular: so my crown vic is a truck, huh im going to go try to get b plates for it now, thanks
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    10/01/09

    @kreepyone: ok, so that's out, too.

    so no one on here can define "truck" other than pointing out what ISN'T a truck.

    see that refrigerator, that is NOT a truck!
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    10/01/09

    @Unregular: Trucks have either a pickup bed (Rampage) or a ladder frame with a wagon body (Wagoneer) and optional 4wd, with few exceptions.

    My Volvo 240 has a basic interior, rear-wheel-drive, and a live axle; ergo, it is more of a truck than most of these "trucks".
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    10/01/09

    @MushyHeirloom: Hmm, he seems to have gone back under his bridge.
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    10/01/09

    In reply to And Here's Your 2010 North American Car, Truck Of The Year Finalists!
    If the Crosstour, Outback, or ZDX win, I vote we amass some high-grade explosives and start plotting.

    The Equinox is genuinely good, the Connect is unique, and the LR4 is a Land Rover again. There are reasonable choices here, jurors; please make a sensible decision.
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    10/01/09

    @MushyHeirloom: At least most of the cars are acceptable choices - the Insight's a Chinese Prius knockoff, the Legacy is uglier than Piss Christ, and nobody's driven a Kizashi, but outside of that, they can't make that bad of a decision.
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    10/01/09

    @MushyHeirloom: I actually stopped at a Ford dealer yesterday to look at the Transit Connect. what I discovered is that all the ones they had in stock were gas engine/automatic combinations. They aren't going to save any commercial fleets a fortune in operating costs and they aren't going to take sales from Honda's Element or Toyota's Scion xB. The Taurus should have been entered in Truck of the year. It probably has a higher GVWR than the average competitor this year.
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    10/01/09

    @CJinSD: the Transit goes more after the Dodge Sprinter and as an lighter alternative to the Ford E-series (formely known as Ecolonine) and Chevy Express (formely known as Chevy Van)

    as for the Excremen...errr I mean Element, if the Transit steal some help it would help to force Honda going back to the drawing board hoping they won't do more worse then that.
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    10/01/09

    @stephdumas: I don't mind the current Element, I'm just afraid that they will make it worse, because they're remarkably good at that.
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    Image of MaWeiTao MaWeiTao
    10/01/09

    In reply to And Here's Your 2010 North American Car, Truck Of The Year Finalists!
    These things are always full of crap especially given the arbitrary selection of cars, some aren't even in the market yet and others have been around for a while.

    For the cars I'd have to choose the Panamera because it's such a departure for Porsche but it actually seems to be cool. The Buick also deserves credit for being such a compelling update for the brand.

    For trucks I'd have to choose the Ford Transit Connect because it's the most functional vehicle on the list and demonstrates that Ford is serious about being a more global brand.

    Everything else on the list is standard fare and not particularly noteworthy. The Acura ZDX and Honda Crosstour deserve a dishonorable mention for being the most awful looking vehicles in years.
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    10/01/09

    In reply to And Here's Your 2010 North American Car, Truck Of The Year Finalists!
    As far as the cars, I think there's a good, bad and ugly lurking here.

    The judges will probably choose the Prius or Fusion/Fusion Hybrid to show how green they are.

    In reality, the Prius should be replaced on the list by the Insight. However, that shouldn't win. The Camaro, Mazdaspeed3, Soul or GTI should win. However, these aren't necessarily "car people" voting...even if they do work in the car industry (i.e. Motor Trend's entire staff).

    If I were voting, I would vote for the 335d. Maybe even the Panamera just to piss people off.
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    10/01/09

    @engineerd: Umm... the Insight is on the list. I was just getting ready to post a joke about how the small Toyota hybrid sedan appeared on the list twice...
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    10/01/09

    @racin_g73: Oh, you're right. Oops. The Prius should still be replaced by the Insight.
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    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    10/01/09

    In reply to And Here's Your 2010 North American Car, Truck Of The Year Finalists!
    NACTOY? Meh, I am more interested in who took home the top prize this year in the NAMBLA contest.

    Because, you know, there are alot of dudes out there that look like Marlon Brando.
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    10/01/09

    In reply to And Here's Your 2010 North American Car, Truck Of The Year Finalists!
    The Buick Lacrosse is a good looking car, unconventional for Buick. The Lincoln MKT is also excellent, although I would tip my hat to the Ford Transit.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    10/01/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: I just went and took an Allure for a spin (since apparently LaCrosse is a dirty word up here), and I am duly impressed. It was significantly nicer than the Acurae I've driven, and I'd put it safely on par with Lexus. It is a bit bland, but geez, they've really done a great job on it.

    Now. A high-performance AWD option, SVP.
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    10/01/09

    @Deartháir II: The Return: Seems they decided to go anyway with the LaCrosse name for 2010 in Canada :-) [www.carguideweb.com]

    And I agree for a high-performance AWD option :-) I would call it "GS" or "GS4W"/"GSWD" (for GS 4WD/AWD)
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    10/01/09

    @stephdumas: They're still labelled as the "Allure" up here.
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    10/01/09

    In reply to And Here's Your 2010 North American Car, Truck Of The Year Finalists!
    Where's the truck list?
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    Image of Flathead Smith Flathead Smith
    10/01/09

    @engineerd: It was a typo.
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    10/01/09

    @Flathead Smith Prefers the Days of Danger: They stuck the Land Rover there by mistake, I see.
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    Image of Buster Brew Buster Brew
    10/01/09

    In reply to And Here's Your 2010 North American Car, Truck Of The Year Finalists!

    The Power Wagon is 1) new and 2) a proper truck, as is the Raptor. Why are neither on the list?

    That said, I think the Equinox will win the truck category as it is a great leap in quality and fuel economy.

    I think the Taurus or Lacrosse will win the car category, with the 335d a potential sleeper due to it's revolutionary engine.
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    10/01/09

    @Buster Brew: Is that the new Ram Ram Power Wagon?
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    10/01/09


    @Alfisted: Fiat knows it rhymes with Bam Bam, so you know it's tough.
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    10/01/09

    In reply to And Here's Your 2010 North American Car, Truck Of The Year Finalists!
    I would choose:

    Car: Fusion Hybrid, because it works better than all the other hybrids and if we have to live with them, we might as well get them right

    Truck: LeMons People's Curse for whomever made the list
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    10/01/09

    In reply to And Here's Your 2010 North American Car, Truck Of The Year Finalists!
    Let's review (car/truck winners followed by runners up in each year):

    2000
    Ford Focus
    Audi TT
    Lincoln LS

    Nissan Xterra
    Dodge Dakota
    Toyota Tundra


    2001
    Chrysler PT Cruiser
    Honda Insight
    Toyota Prius

    Acura MDX
    Ford Escape
    Toyota Sequoia


    2002
    Nissan Altima
    Ford Thunderbird
    Cadillac CTS

    Chevrolet TrailBlazer
    Chevrolet Avalanche
    Jeep Liberty


    2003
    MINI Cooper
    Infiniti G35
    Nissan 350Z

    Volvo XC90
    Hummer H2
    Honda Element
    Nissan Murano


    2004
    Toyota Prius
    Mazda RX-8
    Cadillac XLR

    Ford F-150
    Nissan Titan
    Cadillac SRX


    2005
    Chrysler 300
    Chevrolet Corvette
    Ford Mustang

    Ford Escape
    Ford Freestyle
    Land Rover LR3


    2006
    Honda Civic
    Ford Fusion
    Pontiac Solstice

    Honda Ridgeline
    Ford Explorer
    Nissan Xterra


    2007
    Saturn Aura
    Toyota Camry
    Honda Fit

    Chevrolet Silverado
    Ford Edge
    Mazda CX-7


    2008
    Chevrolet Malibu
    Cadillac CTS
    Honda Accord

    Mazda CX-9
    Chevy Tahoe Hybrid
    Buick Enclave


    2009
    Hyundai Genesis
    Ford Flex
    Volkswagen Jetta TDI

    Ford F-150
    Dodge Ram
    Mercedes-Benz ML320 BlueTEC

    Based on this history, I'd say upmarket finalists would have to be pretty revolutionary to win. I think that eliminates BMW, Mercedes and Cadillac. Panamera is a major departure for Porsche but also too polarizing. I'd say the Buick wins top spot, hands down.

    Trucks? Who cares. These aren't trucks.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    10/01/09

    @Alfisted: Except, of course, for 2002, 2004 and 2008, where Cadillac won....

    I agree with you, though. I think the Buick genuinely deserves a nod. And when I was driving my '93 Century a couple years ago, that was a phrase I never, ever thought I'd say.
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    10/01/09

    @Alfisted: The Aura was nothing revolutionary in 2007. I own one and it has all the stuff my Cobalt had in 2005 with some of the same switch gear.

    This award stopped being important and meaningful years ago and is now nothing more than a sales and marketing tool.

    I'd rather have the general consensus of the Jalopnik commentariat steer my next automotive purchase with a vote. Even though I know the resulting purchase price would cost 3x as much as my house and have more power than Batman Superman, Spiderman and The X-Men put together.. It would also be of the homemade variety.
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    10/01/09

    @Deartháir II: The Return: Cadillac was a runner up in each of thoese years. I won't be surprised to see a premium brand do the same this year - I'd give the BMW the best shot.

    I think voters will want to give the General a shot in the arm this year and Buick seems to be the one capturing hearts and minds, at least IRW.
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    10/01/09

    @Alfisted: Yeah, sorry, that was poor writing on my part. See what happens when I'm watching the stupidity that is Fox TV and trying to write? It makes me stoopider too.
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    10/01/09

    @Prawo Jazdy and The Velocity Trumpets:

    a sales and marketing tool

    Fritz?
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    @MushyHeirloom: Fritz and Dieter. Now with more mustache.
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    Image of wheatieboy wheatieboy
    10/01/09

    In reply to And Here's Your 2010 North American Car, Truck Of The Year Finalists!
    Acura ZDX - not a truck
    • Audi Q5 - not a truck
    • Cadillac SRX - not a truck
    • Chevrolet Equinox - not a truck
    • Ford Transit Connect - not a truck
    • Honda Crosstour - not a truck
    • Land Rover LR4 - not a truck
    • Lincoln MKT - not a truck
    • Subaru Outback - not a truck
    • Volvo XC60 - not a truck

    How hard is this?

    Nissan Titan = Truck
    Silverado = Truck
    SVT Raptor = Effing Great Truck
    Tacoma = Perfect Small(ish) Truck
    Unimog = Really Big Truck

    Come on "experts", get it right.
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    10/01/09

    @wheatieboy: I might let the LR4 pass, if a Tahoe's a truck.

    But my Volvo is more of a truck than most of these. Rear-wheel-drive, sturdy, solid rear axle, simple and reliable.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    10/01/09

    In reply to And Here's Your 2010 North American Car, Truck Of The Year Finalists!
    Are any of those "trucks" actual trucks? I see SUVs, aka BOF cars with a glandular problem, or worse, unibody cars with a fuzzy mission statement.

    How can they include the Insight? I know the mission requires the shape, but it's so me-too that it's just embarrassing - it's so much like the Prius in everything but scale, you could, if not a gearhead, easily mistake one for the other. I understand the handling is wretched, too.

    I want the Fusion to win, but I don't think it's enough of an enthusiast car to win over the jurors. I think it'll probably wind up going to something a little more exclusive than a mere Ford.
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    In reply to And Here's Your 2010 North American Car, Truck Of The Year Finalists!
    I have a feeling the Equinox is going to end up taking the "truck" category.
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    10/01/09

    In reply to And Here's Your 2010 North American Car, Truck Of The Year Finalists!

    How about this?
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    @Syrax, the hyrax: Exactly. Funny how the truck list isn't really trucks.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    10/01/09

    @Syrax, the hyrax: I'm totally with you. Fast, ballsy, truck. Win!
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    @Syrax, the hyrax: Truck of the Century.
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    10/01/09

    @Syrax, the hyrax: That's way too obvious. It's much more car snobby to call a car a truck and then give it an award for being the best truck.
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    10/01/09

    @discontinuuity is happy that everything has been set right in the Jalopverse. Now all we need is more of engineerd's Brefas Scotch!:
    I know we have 91 years to go but you're probably right.
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