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Detroit, 6:51 AM
Sun Nov 22
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11/19/09
11/19/09
In best mockery of little whiny girl voice:
"Oh no, not another Mustang variant!"
"Mustangs are so underpowered"
"live axles suck"
Well kids, it's a little bit like this:
Most of the Mustang variants you have seen have been aftermarket variants, not factory editions. And while I'll grant that there were quite a few during the 2005-2009 model years, they have all been well thought out in terms of package, pricing, and target demographic and have all sold well.
Next up, there are presently only three model variation: Base, GT, and GT500. There are (and always have been) more variations on the BMW 3-series than the Mustang, and yet, I don't here any bitching about that?
Mustangs have always been adequately powered, and now adequate gets a healthy bump to slightly overkill with the 2011 Mustangs, considering that they are getting a 400hp V8 and a 315hp V6, all now backed by six-speed transmissions, manual or automatic.
Obviously, live axles don't suck, considering that the Mustang offers better handling than the Camaro or the Challenger, and their club racing version has been proven to have the ability to stomp on its BMW competitors in every racing series that they have come head-to-head in.
Having addressed your concerns, next time try coming up with something more interesting and creative to say. Memes are only funny for so long.
11/19/09
In the same way Porsche has finally sorted the handling out with all their rear assed widow makers.
Nothing wrong with it, just saying.
11/19/09
You seem to like comparing BMW's to the Mustang, not only are BMW's better than a Mustang but BMW's are overpriced junk for the most part. I guarantee that a 3 series has a far superior suspension to that of the Mustang.
People think Mustangs are fast and they aren't. They have adequate power yes but I'm sick of people seeing a Mustang and going oohh crap check that beast out, I just shrug my shoulders and ask what, that dime-a-dozen POS right there?
Obviously they are doing something right because I see literally at least 30 every single day on the road and I don't even drive that much, but I would prefer to own another car instead of a Mustang for the money.
I'd be interested in an SVT Mustang or an Ecoboost or better yet make a Mustang Raptor, that'd be insanity.
11/20/09
11/20/09
And yes, Mustangs are damned fast for what they are and how they are priced, considering that you need to spend at least another ten grand to get anything that can match it's performance. I'll also point out that all the factory special editions have sold well, and the aftermarket editions are not, in fact, the same as the factory editions.
I think someone has a case of the Thursday night blues.
#tips
11/20/09
Faster in a straight line? thats tougher, for the price the GT500 goes in a straight line pretty well, the closest thing I can think of off the top of my head, straight from the factory no mods would be the Camaro SS which will do it in 4.6 which is pretty brisk for a mere $32k I find that to be much more of a value as far as straight line is concerned.
11/20/09
I would be much happier with the Mustang if the interior didn't look like it came from a $25,000 car and they would give it some darn weight reduction for god sakes. It is NOT difficult to make a V8 2 door under 4,000 lbs, they barely, barely did that which is pitiful. I would expect that car to be closer to 3,000 lbs then I could be happy with spending $50,000 on a $30,000 car.
And for anyone out there who thinks I'm a Ford hater, the Ford GT is seriously the stuff of my wet dreams, and I am definitely a Viper man.
12:37 AM
Good question, I spaced on the details there. Actually, I spaced on the whole fact that this article is about the GT500. I too prefer the C6 to the GT500; no car with a nose that blunt can compete at top-end power/speed with something that's actually aerodynamic.
What grinds my gears and resulted in my question was the dismissal of the Mustang GT as a slow POS. So, a new GT is priced at 28K, sells in the real world for 25K or less if you can negotiate your way out of a paper bag...what at that price point can compare 0-60, 0-100, 1/4 mile, or HP-wise?
I know the WRX can, and the 370Z, but those cars are harder to get at a cheap price (the Z is more around 30K I think but I'm not looking it up), as they don't produced a zillion of them a year. And if the Mustang competes with them, can you still call it a POS? I feel the base model GT is a performance bargain against anything in its class. Others in its class are good cars as well, I'm not dismissing the other options.
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11/12/09
Loan Term (months): 60
Market Finance Rate (APR): 8.84%
Total Loan Amount: $5,995,000.00
My Monthly Payment (tax included): $123,981.32 #fordmustang
11/12/09
11/12/09
It's #1, great. Put it back on the podium. There are things that should not be sold. I firmly believe this is one of them. #fordmustang
11/12/09
Agreed... This should live in a museum, like Notchback #10 back in Germany. #fordmustang
11/12/09
How's THAT for perspective. #fordmustang
11/12/09
How's that for a different perspective?
Even better, 100 acres for me and the wife, 100 acres for each kid, another 100 acres for the in-laws kids, etc until we hit the $3M mark.
Way more useful than a Veyron. And there's still money left over for play tractors and a few project cars. #fordmustang
11/12/09
No more front wheel drive.
No more automatic transmission.
No more pansy 4 cylanders.
I am America, my tank is full. #fordmustang
11/12/09
On the other hand, for five and a half cool ones, you could have a helluva weekend in Vegas... #fordmustang
11/12/09
Over on the tractor side of the aisle, I find the occasional big four. Going far back you find over 300ci in a four cylinder. A couple of old poppin' Johnny Deeres still rockin' the old two-cylinder had 360ci in just two jugs. Man, what an exhaust note that is. And when you load it up and the governor opens the carb, the engine digs deep as it bears down: chuggita, chuggita, chuggita,..chugga! chugga! chugga! ...chu-WHOMP. chu-WHOMP. chu-WHOMP.
I love tractors. I love cars. I love the way they move me, not just in the driver's seat but the way they move me as part of the environment. Each cylinder hits, and you can feel it in your chest, a thump that has escaped the iron heart of the beast. If that isn't awesome, in the old sense of the word, I don't know what is. #fordmustang
11/12/09
Vegas, gag. Take the five point five mill, fly into Vegas. Wait for the next plane leaving, going anywhere.
Fly back out. Now you can say you came away from Vegas with over five million dollars. There is nothing in Vegas I want, want to see, or want to participate in.
11/12/09
11/12/09
This guy has been trying to sell this thing for outrageous money for several years. He needs to move the decimal place one to the left at least. #fordmustang
11/12/09
They forgot to say "First owner was Ralph Nader"
He had the seatbelts put in.....you know, to avoid that big "Unsafe at any speed" thing for Ford. #fordmustang
11/12/09
Seat belts added, wrong radio (AM/FM was not available) and a few other glaring details... (like, they couldn't bolt the Rally-Pac on straight?) For this kind of pipe-smoking price, this should be a 100-point showpiece. #fordmustang
11/12/09
Next thing you know, we'll see the first known Pinto, the first known diesel Chevette, and the only still-running diesel conversion Eldorado pulling in six-figure prices.
At least GM didn't downsize the 350 to 4.1L, then add V8-6-4 technology, then convert it to diesel. The "you're walkin' " trifecta. #fordmustang
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@Steve_in_NC: #fordmustang
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I like Mustangs a lot, but not to the tune of $5.5 million. #fordmustang
11/12/09
It belongs in a museum! #fordmustang
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