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    Image of tomcatt tomcatt
    04/25/09

    In reply to 1974 Ford Mustang II
    It wasn't just the 1973-74 fuel crisis that help Stang 2 sales. Car was also what people wanted to buy, a small car with nice features and styling. And, the old 65-66 Stangs were starting to be collectible. Many wanted a smaller Stang again. Many Mustang fans are not into muscle cars, and just like the style.


    Example, my parents had a '65 with an I6 and 3 sp manual and loved it. They didnt care about drag racing and to us it was the coolest car compared to other parents' in strippo Biscaynes.


    Anyway, those under 35 should know that there wasnt a Toyota or Honda dealer on every corner back then. So, one couldnt compare a new 74-76 Celica or MII easily. Also, the Accord wasn't around until 1976.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/25/09

    @tomcatt: Compared to, say, the rusterrific, head-gasket-blowing Vega, the 'Stang II wasn't bad. But weren't there still perfectly good Darts to be had? (Well, until the Aspen/Volaré came along - and those were nearly as bad about rust.)
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    04/26/09

    @FuzzyPlushroomanyte: You could get a Duster or Dart Sport until 1976 with a 230-240 hp 360 engine in them. Bigger than the Mustang II but not much heavier, and they could kick any II's ass. Not really ponycars, though, and they were pretty crude in some respects. I know - I owned a '75 Duster 360.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/26/09

    @tonyola: See? There you go. Perfect.


    Hell, even a Feather Duster with a 225...

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    Image of ummagumma82 ummagumma82
    04/25/09

    In reply to 1974 Ford Mustang II
    I've never understood the Mustang II hate. To be fair, it was before my time, I've never driven one, and I'm not all that fond of it.


    But think of all the automotive atrocities committed during the Malaise era: Cougar station wagons, 5000+ pound Thunderbirds, FWD 4-banger Mits..err..Dodge Challengers, etc., etc., etc. Yet the Mustang got put on a smaller, lighter, RWD platform (yes I know, it was based on a Pinto, just like how every Mustang ever made has been based on something else) that was re-engineered so they could cram in a 302. And it even looked like a Mustang. Considering the circumstances, that's quite an accomplishment.


    My only theory is that the "Mustang II" name implied that it wasn't really a Mustang, and the lack of a V8 in the initial year (rightfully) caused so much outrage that the entire run ended up being doomed by the crappy first impression. Understandable, but not really fair, if you ask me.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/25/09

    @ummagumma82: That and the notchback was awful-looking. But I sure wouldn't turn down a 302-powered fastback.
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    Image of DrLemming DrLemming
    04/25/09

    In reply to 1974 Ford Mustang II
    Not to get picky, but that's a 1975 model. You can tell because the rear-quarter windows are partially covered up by the landau roof. If I recall correctly, the 1975 also sported a slightly taller grille and hood so they could shoehorn in a 302 V8.


    I remember being really disappointed with the Mustang II's design when it came out. The bumpers were ungainly, the wheels were so small they looked like roller skates, and the front and rear treatments were too generic. Not that the the Mustang II's immediate predecessor or successor were a whole lot better. Truth be told, beginning in the early 1970s Ford usually didn't do a very good job of styling the Mustang. I think that's a big reason why the Camaro often outsold it.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/25/09

    @DrLemming: Yeah, the '69-70 were fat but attractive. Then they just turned into fat and ugly until the Mustang II.
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    Image of 03SVT Defender of SUVs, friend to the douche 03SVT Defender of SUVs, friend to the douche
    04/25/09

    In reply to 1974 Ford Mustang II
    I think a case could be made that the exterior styling (or do I have to say 'design language' now?) of these was attractive. But that Malaisey interior! My gawd the horrors! That instrument cluster-fuck and dashboard, oy vey. Oh and lets not forget the velour.
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    Image of UDMan UDMan
    04/25/09

    @03SVT Peter Orosz's ONLY friend: Really, there is nothing I dislike about this version of the Mustang II. Padded Vinyl Roof; Check. Tufted Velour Seats; Check. Faux Woodgrain on the Instrument Panel; Check. German Built V-6; Check. T-Shift Automatic and center console; Check. Ghia badging; Check. The only thing better would be the Stand-up Hood Ornament, and the Wire Whwwl Covers, with white sidewall Firestone 500 Radials.


    Now that's riding in style!

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    Image of Vintage Racer - with V-12 goodness Vintage Racer - with V-12 goodness
    04/25/09

    In reply to 1974 Ford Mustang II
    I'm off to the Pull-a-Part later today myself (think I'll wait for the lovely Pacific NW liquid sunshine to stop). Need to find some bit's to make new rear brake adjusters... the fun never ends when you race 40 year old cars....
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    Image of Joe-Btfsplk Joe-Btfsplk
    04/25/09

    In reply to 1974 Ford Mustang II
    It looks like the pimped-up "GHIA" model. A rare find... indeed!
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    04/25/09

    @Joe-Btfsplk: Oooh, I didn't even notice it was the coveted Ghia. That explains the hallucinatory seat upholstery.
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    Image of 03SVT Defender of SUVs, friend to the douche 03SVT Defender of SUVs, friend to the douche
    04/25/09

    In reply to 1974 Ford Mustang II
    Am I the only one who remembers Ford's ad line for this: "Mustang II, Boredom 0!"? Or am I just the only one who cares?
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    Image of Uncle Bo Uncle Bo
    04/25/09

    @03SVT Peter Orosz's ONLY friend:


    Remember it? Hell, I sing it to myself all the time!!

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    Image of Uncle Bo Uncle Bo
    04/25/09

    @Uncle Bo, pacin' at Talladega in a Pontiac Turbo Trans-Am:


    Guess I should explain a little. You know about all these meme's right? LOLcats, All Your Base..., all that stuff?


    Well, my personal meme is, " 2, Boredom 0" Any ol' exclamation will do, the stupider, the better. Try it. I promise hours of safe and sane fun.

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    Image of Uncle Bo Uncle Bo
    04/25/09

    @Uncle Bo, pacin' at Talladega in a Pontiac Turbo Trans-Am:


    I hate not having a preview window.


    What I meant to say is....


    "Well, my personal meme is, "[insert phrase, statement, or exclamation] 2, Boredom 0".

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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    04/25/09

    @03SVT Peter Orosz's ONLY friend: I remember that, as well as this car--in silver. My mother bought one new. While in no way is it anything like a Mustang, it wasn't a bad small car for what it was. Look at it! It's really quite attractive. Like a tarted up Maverick. Definitely an upgrade from her two Pintos; and she upgraded after that to a Granada. Then down to a series of Escorts.

    Hmmm. I guess we could all chart our car histories by lame to cool, small to large, or vv, hp, or cost. I'm sure there's some car geek out there doing just that.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    04/25/09

    In reply to 1974 Ford Mustang II
    Cologne V-6 was a great engine. Mustang II was an abomination. I've never worked on a bigger kludge. And the Fairmont and Granada were pretty close seconds. But they sure were proud of all that road hugging weight.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/25/09

    In reply to 1974 Ford Mustang II
    I didn't know you could even get the first-generation Cologne V6 here. Damn.


    (Oh, it's a 2.8, then, not a 2.6. Okay.)


    This is the same basic engine you can get in a brand new Mustang, then? Yeehaw! Feel the Malaise!

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    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    04/25/09

    @FussyPlushrömanyte: Is Feel the Malaise sort of like a Jalopnik rendition of Ride the Lightning? Because I think we can make that happen.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/25/09

    @Strooooolling the Jalopplayer: Definitely!


    Damn it, why do the only awesome things I come up with include the word "Malaise"?

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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    04/25/09

    In reply to 1974 Ford Mustang II
    It's been a long time since I've seen a Mustang II anywhere.


    However, I saw a brown (of course) 1980-ish Datsun 510 station wagon that was made out of rust. In Ohio!

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    Image of .357 .357
    04/25/09

    In reply to 1974 Ford Mustang II
    What's that white car next to it? I believe it's a Caddy, but I can't seem to figure it out right now.
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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    04/25/09

    @.357 [Advertise Here For Only One Gold Star!]: It's a Lincoln Mark VII.
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    Image of ManicSquirrel is preparing for winter ManicSquirrel is preparing for winter
    04/25/09

    @.357 [Advertise Here For Only One Gold Star!]: i'm going to go with lincoln Mark III or whichever at was or mercury cougar
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    04/25/09

    @.357 [Advertise Here For Only One Gold Star!]:


    Yep, Mark VII, and I think it may be an LSC, though I'm not certain the C-pillar script wasn't something else on the non-LSC versions.

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    Image of .357 .357
    04/25/09

    @everyone: Thanks. I was thinking either Caddy or Lincoln.
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    Image of sir-madman sir-madman
    04/25/09

    @accept it, the global economy is hosed for a while: It's a LSC, no other Lincoln had any thing there...Well maybe the GTC did, not sure.
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    Image of LTDScott LTDScott
    04/25/09

    @sir-madman: wrong, the standard Marks had the Lincoln logo there.
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