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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    02/16/09

    In reply to DOTS-O-Rama Sunday, San Francisco Edition: Vixen 21 TD, Plus Bonus Mopar Deathwagon
    The Vixen was a weird critter. It's like somebody decided the Winnebago LeSharo wasn't peculiar enough, and went overboard.


    They only built about 500-550 if I remember rightly, and not all of those are diesels. Quite a few are running, I think, Oldsmobile motivation.


    Can't fault their vision, though: a compact motorhome that gets good mileage. And with the diesel, they did: 20+mpg highway, which is good even for an unloaded Sprinter. There's no acceleration to speak of, but the mileage is indeed good.

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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    02/15/09

    In reply to DOTS-O-Rama Sunday, San Francisco Edition: Vixen 21 TD, Plus Bonus Mopar Deathwagon
    I have never seen the Vixen before. What an oddly beautiful house on wheels!


    Oh, before I go. Murilee, this DOTSBE SFO-O-Rama is all kinds of awesome! Excellent job! You do realize that you have set the bar pretty high for Murilopnik Weekends, right?

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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    02/15/09

    In reply to DOTS-O-Rama Sunday, San Francisco Edition: Vixen 21 TD, Plus Bonus Mopar Deathwagon
    Cool Vixen. I knew nothing about them and went to the links. They certainly have strong fans for only 3 years production.


    The MoPar needs to lose some of the bric-a-brac trim and faux Mad Max to be truly wicked.

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    Image of damnelantra™ damnelantra™
    02/15/09

    In reply to DOTS-O-Rama Sunday, San Francisco Edition: Vixen 21 TD, Plus Bonus Mopar Deathwagon
    alright, i officially hate the drivers and passenger windows on the vixen. those remind me of horrible corroding aluminum garage / shed windows were you need to hands and sometimes a mallet to open
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    02/15/09

    In reply to DOTS-O-Rama Sunday, San Francisco Edition: Vixen 21 TD, Plus Bonus Mopar Deathwagon
    That's the coolest RV ever. Is this the only way to get a diesel BMW engine in the States? And hell, it's called the "Vixen"! That makes it great by itself.


    The InSoc Satellite is just too awesome for words, so I'm leaving it alone and citing it only as inspiration.

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    Image of theeastbaykid theeastbaykid
    02/15/09

    @Fluffy, Pushbroom: I believe the 524td came here in small numbers...same motor as the Vixen (?)
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    Image of Peter Cowan Peter Cowan
    02/15/09

    In reply to DOTS-O-Rama Sunday, San Francisco Edition: Vixen 21 TD, Plus Bonus Mopar Deathwagon
    That car used to belong to the lead singer from Information Society.


    [en.wikipedia.org])

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    02/15/09

    @Peter Cowan: I was just about to point that out. VECTOR!!!
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    Image of Graverobber Graverobber
    02/15/09

    In reply to DOTS-O-Rama Sunday, San Francisco Edition: Vixen 21 TD, Plus Bonus Mopar Deathwagon
    Interesting story about the Vixen TD; Ford had contracted with BMW for them to supply the Blue Oval with oil-burners. Ford had been much more shrewd than GM, and hadn't sunk a lot of R&D dollars into development of in-house diesels, instead buying them from other makers.


    The idea was to put the BMW engines in the Lincoln MK VII which was the brand's halo car. About that time, gas prices stabilized and diesel emissions came under increased scrutiny, forcing many to abandon the compression engines, including Ford, who cancelled the order with BMW and cut a deal with Vixen for the remaining stock.


    Oh, and it's good to see Rob Halford is in town.

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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    02/15/09

    @graverobber: Murilopnik Weekends mean I can cut back on th...: I don't know if I'd call that shrewd. Accidentally shrewd, maybe.


    Ford never had the same resources as GM and couldn't go all out on new engines and technology like GM. This was fortunately, because GM almost always fell flat on their face with these new engines and technology.


    Instead, Ford usually built uninventive, uninspired cars like the Falcon that killed fewer people, the Pinto that broke less (while killing people) and Fox platform that just wouldn't die. The rest of the time, Ford just waited at least two years and copied GM, with mixed results (See Panther platform, Tempo, Lincoln Versailles, '82 Continental).

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    Image of Graverobber Graverobber
    02/15/09

    @FromaBuick6: At the time GM was living through the Olds diesel, Cadillac 8-6-4-lawsuit engine fiascos, Ford was developing the Taurus?Sable twins, the SVO Mustang and Aero-Tbird, as well as keeping the F-Series pickup ahead of the competition. There was a renaissance at Ford in the mod '80s that saved the company from financial ruin, and it helped that they weren't saddled with amortizing the cost of R&D on engines that couldn't be sold anymore. I think it was shrewd, and I think Ford is doing some of the same things today which may help keep them afloat.


    I do agree with you that the cars you note were lesser lights than their GM competition, although the Panther platform, for better or worse, still soldiers on today, and you can thank the Lincoln Versailles for each 4-disc brake conversions for classic mustangs.

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    Image of discontinuuity has left the Jalop until further notice discontinuuity has left the Jalop until further notice
    02/15/09

    @graverobber: Murilopnik Weekends mean I can cut back on th...: I think that, while most likely unintentional, that question mark (Taurus?Sable) is oddly appropriate.
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    Image of mikedrawcar mikedrawcar
    02/15/09

    In reply to DOTS-O-Rama Sunday, San Francisco Edition: Vixen 21 TD, Plus Bonus Mopar Deathwagon
    If you had labeled either of those Deathwagon, I wouldn't have been surprised. The Vixen looks like a Chinese death penalty van.


    And they're both awesome.

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    Image of Franzouse Franzouse
    02/15/09

    In reply to DOTS-O-Rama Sunday, San Francisco Edition: Vixen 21 TD, Plus Bonus Mopar Deathwagon
    Beautiful finds, and I love the Vixen side-shots. Bravo Monsieur Akier!
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    02/15/09

    In reply to DOTS-O-Rama Sunday, San Francisco Edition: Vixen 21 TD, Plus Bonus Mopar Deathwagon
    There is something to be said for any project that involves major fiberglass fabrication, or weldingtorch insanity. In this case we get an example of both varieties of awesome. Well done, Akier!
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    02/15/09

    In reply to DOTS-O-Rama Sunday, San Francisco Edition: Vixen 21 TD, Plus Bonus Mopar Deathwagon
    Hard to find greater range in two random vehicles. Akier has quite a discerning eye, despite what he says about his camera phone.
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    Image of mechimike mechimike
    02/15/09

    In reply to DOTS-O-Rama Sunday, San Francisco Edition: Vixen 21 TD, Plus Bonus Mopar Deathwagon
    "Currently Inoperative"


    Gonna have to fix that problem before its playa-worthy.


    I seem to recall seeing a 73-74 Roadrunner out there one year, done up Mad-Max style. And I just happen to have a 74 in my backyard...

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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    02/15/09

    @mechimike: Good God, man, what are you waiting for? Didn't you see the Zombie Alert road signs?!
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    Image of Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable
    02/15/09

    In reply to DOTS-O-Rama Sunday, San Francisco Edition: Vixen 21 TD, Plus Bonus Mopar Deathwagon
    Roadrunner needs a built 413 and fender call-out badge "Mad MaxWedge".
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    Image of Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable
    02/15/09

    In reply to DOTS-O-Rama Sunday, San Francisco Edition: Vixen 21 TD, Plus Bonus Mopar Deathwagon
    That is the most badass '73-'74 Roadrunner ever.


    Mopar Deathwagon to Vixen: "What a puny plan- you puppy."

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    11/04/08

    In reply to 1970s Apollo Motorhome
    Hey, cut some Plexiglas and... What a great motor home! I haven't been keeping as close an eye on these as I should be.


    (This is Truck Tuesday, I see...)

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