Somehow, Wes, I just can't imagine you enjoying a big touring bike like a K1200LT replacement, which is my guess as to what this engine is going to wind up in.
I somehow see the Honda DN01's CVT transmission technology coming into play here, too. The pioneered with the DN01, will almost certainly use it in the next Goldwing, and I doubt BMW will let them get away with advertising that they are the only company with the "advanced, new technology CVT motorcycle transmission." #bmw
The year: 1978
The maker: Honda
The engine: 1024cc, 24v I6 generating over 100hp. For the day, it is a bruiser cruiser, a mighty superbike, a factory crotch rocket.
Welcome to the party, BMW. You're late, but we're glad you're here. #bmw
@Elhigh: Bingo. Funny thing; I think Honda marketed it as a 1000cc for two years, then as an 1100 without changing the displacement of the engine. Here's a pic since no-one else has posted one yet.
Honda has been doing 6-cylinder bikes for more than 30 years, and they've even toyed with putting one in a sport bike, but I guess it's good to see BMW considering it as well. I wouldn't be surprised if they put it in a sport bike, but I agree that it's probably destined for a tourer - they already have a 175HP engine in their K1300S and the only reason I can think of to engineer a 6 cylinder is to provide for a smoother ride at the expense of extra weight. #bmw
I don't like bikes as a general rule, but I do like this one. My current car only has 150 hp. It weighs about 3300lbs. It also only has about 150 lb-ft of torque.
This is insanity barely held together by a few bits of titanium. And I love it. #bmw
@ThreeLitre: I know how you feel. I used to have no interest in bikes whatsoever but 3 years ago, all that changed.
I was driving to work and a guy pulled up next to me at a light, and he was riding some sort of Triumph. The moment I saw the machine, something in my brain went *pop!* - all of a sudden, I understood the appeal.
I got to work and hit the Triumph website and discovered that the object of my newly discovered moto-lust was a Speed Triple - an 1050cc inline 3 cylinder. I had to have one. Some friends intervened and talked me out of a maniacally powerful bike as my first-ever, so I got a used Triumph Speed Four instead.
Maybe this is the bike that will do it for you! #bmw
@Botswana Meat Commission FC: Since when does the "typical rider" need 175hp? I've scared myself years ago with my 120hp V65 Magna. How much power does one really need on a bike?
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I ride a bike with 65 hp and it gets me through Atlanta traffic every day. Actually, I was riding a stupid-powerful K1200GT recently with, I'm guessing, at least 135 hp, and it's WAY more power than anyone will ever need in a street bike. #bmw
@Turbineguy - now with reheat!!: Cheers to that. My 550lb bike with 85hp is still faster than 98% of the cars on the road. And there just aren't that many opportunities to do 0-60 in four seconds when there's some dozy twit in a Nissan Versa in front of you on the on-ramp.
I always find reading Euro bike-mags amusing when they start bitching about the EU potentially capping motorcycles at 100HP - sure it's Communist and all, but a 430lb R1/FireBlade/ZX-10R with a supposedly limp-wristed 100HP is still a racebike with lights. #bmw
@Peugeot 504 - the Car for Nigeria: The brits are the absolute worst about this. That country must be absolutely full of middle aged dentists riding around in race leathers on brand new R1s. #bmw
@Botswana Meat Commission FC: The leathers have to be the funniest part of that. You can't wear race leathers with a gut. And in a country with so many speed cameras the whole enterprise just seems like a waste of time. I really don't know what the point of having a bike that does 80mph in 1st gear is if you're threatened with losing your license for going 1mph over the speed limit three times. So you don't, and instead you're just a 45-year-old dude dressed like the circus is coming to town, tooling around at 25mph. #bmw
That's not safer. Your head is as vulnerable in many types of crashes as if you were on a motorcycle. Except you aren't wearing a helmet.
There's also a lot more weight, and the mass and center of gravity is much higher. It will be less maneuverable and controllable.
The four point belts would be an improvement in cars.
BMW initially produced this to provide more weather protection for riders, but it doesn't really provide all that much more. It is breathtakingly expensive. They managed that very well. #bmwc1e
@Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: Your right - this lady is very susceptible to a head injury of the worst sort; bft to the temple. Believe it or not, I think they had actually planned on putting airbags on this when it was first developed. I doubt they've figured out how to do that though.
I think the MP3 by Piaggio is probably safer just from a stability standpoint. And they could actually make a version with an enclosed cockpit if they wanted, which could be kinda cool and allow for riding in inclement weather. #bmwc1e
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I somehow see the Honda DN01's CVT transmission technology coming into play here, too. The pioneered with the DN01, will almost certainly use it in the next Goldwing, and I doubt BMW will let them get away with advertising that they are the only company with the "advanced, new technology CVT motorcycle transmission." #bmw
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The maker: Honda
The engine: 1024cc, 24v I6 generating over 100hp. For the day, it is a bruiser cruiser, a mighty superbike, a factory crotch rocket.
Welcome to the party, BMW. You're late, but we're glad you're here. #bmw
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I was considering a Speed Triple. This looks TWICE as good! #bmw
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So, because of the engine's width, is it going to four water-cooled cylinders flanked by one air-cooled one on each side? #bmw
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This is insanity barely held together by a few bits of titanium. And I love it. #bmw
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I was driving to work and a guy pulled up next to me at a light, and he was riding some sort of Triumph. The moment I saw the machine, something in my brain went *pop!* - all of a sudden, I understood the appeal.
I got to work and hit the Triumph website and discovered that the object of my newly discovered moto-lust was a Speed Triple - an 1050cc inline 3 cylinder. I had to have one. Some friends intervened and talked me out of a maniacally powerful bike as my first-ever, so I got a used Triumph Speed Four instead.
Maybe this is the bike that will do it for you! #bmw
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I'm sold. A bike like the K1200 RT with this engine would deserve a Nobel prize. #bmw
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Sorry. I was being sarcastic.
I ride a bike with 65 hp and it gets me through Atlanta traffic every day. Actually, I was riding a stupid-powerful K1200GT recently with, I'm guessing, at least 135 hp, and it's WAY more power than anyone will ever need in a street bike. #bmw
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I always find reading Euro bike-mags amusing when they start bitching about the EU potentially capping motorcycles at 100HP - sure it's Communist and all, but a 430lb R1/FireBlade/ZX-10R with a supposedly limp-wristed 100HP is still a racebike with lights. #bmw
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There's also a lot more weight, and the mass and center of gravity is much higher. It will be less maneuverable and controllable.
The four point belts would be an improvement in cars.
BMW initially produced this to provide more weather protection for riders, but it doesn't really provide all that much more. It is breathtakingly expensive. They managed that very well. #bmwc1e
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I think the MP3 by Piaggio is probably safer just from a stability standpoint. And they could actually make a version with an enclosed cockpit if they wanted, which could be kinda cool and allow for riding in inclement weather. #bmwc1e
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I'd rather be driving a Peel P50. Even at 6'4" I'd be less embarrassed. #bmwc1e
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