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2010 Lincoln MKS: Entry-Level Luxe Sedan Gets EcoBoost Engine

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Elhigh
01/12/09

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The statement that the turbo is designed to last 150,000m is not encouraging. Americans already think American cars don't last, this will only add weight to that prejudice.
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pauljones
01/12/09

@Elhigh:

150,000 miles is pretty damned good, actually.
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piththeelder
01/13/09

@Elhigh:

All cars are designed to last 150K miles*(1.2-1.5)safety factor
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Elhigh
01/13/09

@piththeelder: @pauljones:
I am not impressed. They can charge me a healthy price if I know they've built the car with the intent of sending me off, knowing I'll be back in 20 years to buy the next one.
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Elhigh
01/12/09

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Ecoboost is a great idea. But really - who needs 350+hp?

Now don't flame me, I know a lot of you guys are serious gearheads who believe there's no such thing as too much power. And that's okay...for you.

But I'm perfectly happy with less. If I had a Citroen 2CV with its mighty 29hp twin, I'd be satisfied. It beats walking.

So in that vein, could I have V6 power and I4 economy? Or I4 power and V2 economy? Can we tease 150hp out of an engine when I need it for getting the trailer and firewood rolling, and 50+mpg out of my truck the rest of the time?

Imagine how much smaller the engine bay could be. You could pare a couple of feet off the nose of a compact pickup, add a foot (or be still my heart, two feet!) of length back onto the carbo bed, and still have a compact, city-friendly parking-lot nimble package.
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Deartháir II
01/12/09

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I want to like these, and they look pretty nice in photos... but I've seen quite a few in traffic now, and they just don't look that nice in person. The suspension is all wrong, they sit WAY too high off the ground, and the ass-end is just too high and bulky. I want to love it, I really do, but they just look awkward in person, and remind me somewhat of Aunt Fannie from Robots.
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pauljones
01/12/09

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Isn't the MKZ Lincoln's entry-level car?
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Deartháir II
01/12/09

@pauljones: Entry-level luxury, not entry level Lincoln. Lincoln is positioned with Acura above the "normal" brands, like Ford and Honda, but below the "luxury" brands like BMW or Mercedes.
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jduffy13
01/12/09

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You've got to admit, Ford has a better grasp on its lineup than GM does these days.
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Taglane
01/12/09

@jduffy13: They may have a better grasp on their lineup, but seem to give up on originality. Lincoln MKS Team: ooh no one remembers the 300M. Let's copy the rear.
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pauljones
01/12/09

@MinusTwenty: 300 what?
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Turboner
01/12/09

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Cool, but my prediction is that american automakers will only offer their fast, otherwise fun cars with automatic transmissions, therefore damning them to the fiscal ruin they richly deserve. Except the Corvette. Save the Vette!
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pauljones
01/12/09

@Turboner:

Wasting a bunch of money to offer a manual transmission option that no one in this segment will buy would damn to financial ruin.

On the other hand, focusing n what the core segment buyers want and have a strongly-established pattern of buying is smart.
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blue-coupe
01/12/09

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Seems pretty nice. I never cared for the second generation Infinity M though
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Ash78, cube farmer
01/12/09

@blue-coupe: Yeah, the first M35/45 was 100% Yakuza Gangsta. I liked it, but it didn't fit the rest of the US lineup.
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jbownsabmw- Koopas Beware
01/12/09

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Every single car they make should be offered with this engine. AWD Focus with 350HP?
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cgarison
01/12/09

@jbownsabmw but still wants GM to survive: That sounds like the talk around the table when I was in the 6th grade. We wanted to transplant a 454 CI from an old work truck that belonged to one friend's dad into the Chevette Scooter of another friend's mom.

That would have been on fun SOB to try to drive. With that much weight under the hood, would the rear wheels have touched the ground???
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Deartháir II
01/12/09

@cgarison: Yes. It's been done many times with the Caddy 502. And it is every bit as much fun as you think it would be.
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c0de
01/12/09

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it has the ass of a Daewoo which has the ass of a Quattroporte
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pauljones
01/12/09

@c0de: I'd hit it.
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