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    Jalopnik Vs. GM: We Have Seen The Enemy, And He Is Bob

    Mitsubishi Unveils JDM-Only Lancer EVO X GSR Premium Edition

    Tokyo Motor Show: Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X, Finally
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    Image of Steve_in_NC Steve_in_NC
    10/29/09

    In reply to Jalopnik Vs. GM: We Have Seen The Enemy, And He Is Bob
    Ray, I want you to crush that old man. He had a hand in the merger of equals and needs to pay the piper. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of ThreeLitre ThreeLitre
    10/29/09

    In reply to Jalopnik Vs. GM: We Have Seen The Enemy, And He Is Bob
    It's a bit damp out there today isn't it?

    Methinks 550 hp to the rear wheels vs. geektastic torque-vectored 4wd is going to make things interesting... #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of Brett Berk Brett Berk
    10/29/09

    In reply to Jalopnik Vs. GM: We Have Seen The Enemy, And He Is Bob
    I want to see Lutz spank Wes. And I hope he wins this race thingy too. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    10/29/09

    In reply to Jalopnik Vs. GM: We Have Seen The Enemy, And He Is Bob
    Hmm. I would've hoped for more parity between the rides. The EVO is slinging about 750lbs less around the track, but the CTS is a 550hp compensation monster. I'm seeing apples and oranges here.

    The EVO vs. an Impreza or even - God help me but it isn't completely wrong - Cobalt SS Turbo would be a much closer fight, numbers-wise. In fact, to shut down the naysayers, they should shoot for a dry track and put the EVO against the Cobalt. That would be a pretty even match if the specs are right. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of Japcola Japcola
    10/29/09

    @Elhigh: To achieve perfect parity, everybody would've been driving a CTS-V. But parity's not the point, nor is it the nature of the beast: this is a race between a Lutz in a CTS-V, and a common man in a commoner's car. Truly, an underdog story unfolding before our eyes.
    But yeah sure on any other day/track event, I'd love to see dry runs between an Evo and a STI. #jalopnikvsgm
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    FrankGrimes promoted this comment Japcola was starred Japcola was unstarred
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    10/29/09

    @Japcola: An Evolution is a commoner car?

    Today I learned just how lower class I am. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of RachelSklar RachelSklar
    10/29/09

    In reply to Jalopnik Vs. GM: We Have Seen The Enemy, And He Is Bob

    Ray, this guy runs is a former military-man fighter pilot charging headlong into a high-stakes challenge against a much younger man. You're a blogger who poses like this. Kudos to Wes for racing - that's badass - but overall, I'm rooting for Bob. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of twitchykun(level 10 Jalop-Knight) twitchykun(level 10 Jalop-Knight)
    10/29/09

    @RachelSklar: you're "tsundere" for Ray, aren't you?

    [tvtropes.org] #jalopnikvsgm
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    RachelSklar promoted this comment twitchykun(level 10 Jalop-Knight) was starred twitchykun(level 10 Jalop-Knight) was unstarred
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    10/29/09

    @twitchykun (Level 1 Jalop-Knight): I don't know what that means but we're just pals, and I just like poking fun at that picture. Also I sort of have a crush on Bob Lutz. Total silver fox . #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of twitchykun(level 10 Jalop-Knight) twitchykun(level 10 Jalop-Knight)
    10/29/09

    @RachelSklar: whoa! Pals? Like a childhood friend character?! Cooooool.

    BTW, there's a link below my post that talks about what a "tsundere" is. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of ThreeLitre ThreeLitre
    10/29/09

    @RachelSklar: oh snap.

    Ray, do you have to practice that come-hither stare or is it just natural. I'm getting goosebumps, geezum. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of UglyDuckCar UglyDuckCar
    10/29/09

    In reply to Jalopnik Vs. GM: We Have Seen The Enemy, And He Is Bob

    And who said sequels have to be bad? #jalopnikvsgm
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    10/29/09

    In reply to Jalopnik Vs. GM: We Have Seen The Enemy, And He Is Bob
    "I tell you what, our country is going down the crapper. I remember (practicing) fighting for our freedom against Mitsubishi's, and now some punk kid with long hair is driving one against me. The nerve. I hope he loses an eye." #jalopnikvsgm
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    10/29/09

    In reply to Jalopnik Vs. GM: We Have Seen The Enemy, And He Is Bob
    This time Wes' in it for love
    This time Wes' in it to win
    It's crazy to race a CTS
    'Specially in an EVO
    But how could he possibly lose
    How could he lose
    This time he's in it to win

    Wes is in a win-win situation, in my eyes. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of Steve_in_NC Steve_in_NC
    10/29/09

    In reply to Jalopnik Vs. GM: We Have Seen The Enemy, And He Is Bob

    Beware of the Bob #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of Thomas Paladino Thomas Paladino
    10/29/09

    In reply to Jalopnik Vs. GM: We Have Seen The Enemy, And He Is Bob
    I'm cheering for Bob in this one. Sorry guys, but an mean old dude in a 195mph Caddy is way cooler than some commie longhair in a rice burning Playstation with four wheels.

    For America! #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    10/29/09

    @Thomas Paladino: +1. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of lilwillie lilwillie
    10/29/09

    @Thomas Paladino:

    Heart click from me, that is perfect. #jalopnikvsgm
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    10/29/09


    @Thomas Paladino: for you an American Brew! #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    10/29/09

    @Thomas Paladino: Amen, brother. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of Tiberiuswise is all ate up with sarcasm Tiberiuswise is all ate up with sarcasm
    10/29/09

    @Steve_in_NC:
    From a company owned by Belgians. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of Steve_in_NC Steve_in_NC
    10/29/09

    @Tiberiuswise: the reason that deal went down was for the oppressive tax situation in the US.

    Also, Sam Adams is not that easy on the eyes. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of Tiberiuswise is all ate up with sarcasm Tiberiuswise is all ate up with sarcasm
    10/29/09

    @Steve_in_NC:
    About time we stuck it to the corporate fat cats. Wait, what?

    No amount of Sam Adams will make me want Jim Koch #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    10/29/09

    @Tiberiuswise: Breweries are always run by nerdy, lumpy men. It's science fact. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of ThreeLitre ThreeLitre
    10/29/09

    @Thomas Paladino: You Federalist!! I am rooting for the local hero! Even if he is a commie.

    For Freedom!!! #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of RandomGuyWithaMazda RandomGuyWithaMazda
    10/29/09

    In reply to Jalopnik Vs. GM: We Have Seen The Enemy, And He Is Bob
    WHY DOES IT HAVE NO WING D:

    Also, wet conditions favor the evolution, so atleast there is that much. #jalopnikvsgm
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    FTGDWolverineEdition'09 promoted this comment RandomGuyWithaMazda was starred RandomGuyWithaMazda was unstarred
    Image of Timmy! Timmy!
    10/29/09

    @RandomGuyWithaMazda: Have you driven the V in the rain? It's pretty amazing! I was blown away at how good it was in the wet, I was expecting the car to be sliding everywhere and instead it maintained perfect composure. This wasn't on a racetrack or anything but it was a good downpour and I was pushing it pretty hard just trying to see when it would give. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of RandomGuyWithaMazda RandomGuyWithaMazda
    10/29/09

    @Timmy!: you can have the best traction control fitted to the most neutral FR in the world, but AWD is still a bit faster in low-traction situations. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of YankBoffin YankBoffin
    10/29/09

    In reply to Jalopnik Vs. GM: We Have Seen The Enemy, And He Is Bob
    Does the CTS have keys? I thought it just had one of those fobs you keep in your pants.

    No, not that one. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of lilwillie lilwillie
    10/29/09

    In reply to Jalopnik Vs. GM: We Have Seen The Enemy, And He Is Bob
    Oh, if you get a chance. Thank Bob for building kick ass vehicles and let him know we appreciate it.

    And the look he is giving seems to be the same one I get from time to time.

    "Damn kids still haven't learned experience trumps everything." #jalopnikvsgm
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    10/29/09

    @lilwillie:

    Additionally, thank him for insisting the first-gen Chrysler LH-cars, the performance suspension versions, be constructed as they were.

    $20K 4-door sedans of the mid-90's never felt so capable.

    /was a regular at the tire shop...because of my wife's driving twisty CO roads #jalopnikvsgm
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    10/29/09

    @send lawyers, guns, and money: and the rear seats had the added bonus of being modeled after the rear seating position/legroom of a Traction Avant (useless fact brought to you by Citroen fanboi). #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of mytdawg mytdawg
    10/29/09

    @lilwillie: Youth and skill are no match for old age and treachery. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    10/29/09

    @send lawyers, guns, and money: As mediocre as those cars were, they are really ok to drive, if you can live with (or replace) the horrifically unsupportive front seats. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    10/29/09

    @Paul Y. don't drive too fast.:

    The front seats in our '95 Intrepid ES were pretty good. Passenger's seat was not only eight-way power, but also had manual lumbar adjustment (I think...been a while since we had that ride).

    The base-seats on the '97 and later were definitely lacking, however. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of musicalmcs8706 musicalmcs8706
    10/29/09

    @send lawyers, guns, and money: My family owned a '94 and then a '96 Concorde, which that one was passed down to me. I thought the front seats were pretty good. Not as good as my mom's V70, but not too bad. And I seem to recall the backseat not being too bad either. But it was nice having the full power seats on both sides. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    10/29/09

    @musicalmcs8706:

    I'm with you on the power-seat bit.

    It bugs the living hell outta me my '95 E320, '89 420 SEL, and the '95 Intrepid all had/have eight-way power passenger seats, yet my wife's '02 RX300 is limited to four-way. Front-back, and backrest adjustment.

    Lame.

    The '89 420 SEL even had two memory positions for both front seats, and said memory worked the telescoping wheel for the driver.

    Bonus is, on older cars, it works while in-gear/motion. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of f86sabre f86sabre
    10/29/09

    In reply to Jalopnik Vs. GM: We Have Seen The Enemy, And He Is Bob
    Good luck to Wes, Jalopnik and the Evo. Do thank Bob and the GM folks for manning up. Should be fun. #jalopnikvsgm
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    Image of zacarious zacarious
    10/29/09

    In reply to Jalopnik Vs. GM: We Have Seen The Enemy, And He Is Bob
    EVO X's tend to get sloppy without their wings - this is not going to end well. #jalopnikvsgm
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