There must be 10,000 people building that plant in MS. There was nothing but a sign there in the Summer of '07. My wife and I went by there again last Summer,and I couldn't believe how far along they had come on it in such a relatively short time. Perhaps there was more done at the plant than I thought last year, but I was still shocked.
I'm from the South,but I don't agree with what the Southern senators are doing at all!
Jalop, can you stop grinding your ax? As you say, those subsidies have been given since '92, long before the current context that exists. You're reaching so far that you actually weaken your argument rather than strengthen it: I'm inclined to question your conclusions even more now.
But that's beside the point: If you're going to write an editorial then call it that. It seems that you're trying to find facts that support a knee-jerk reaction viewpoint created two seconds after the facts became available but that doesn't really hold up upon further examination. Reminds me of Jon Stewart.
@Bumblebee: You might as well ask Lifehacker to give Windows a fair shake :) It's just an ad platform, there are some good car-related stories here and there though.
@Landau_Calrissian: [double standard alert] Windows doesn't deserve a fair shake. Windows is morally contemptible. It's mother called it stupid when it was young. It hurts children. It burns churches and blows up hospitals. [end double standard]
I don't know that Jalop is just an "ad platform." That's a pretty severe assessment, especially when Jalop doesn't advertise any automaker ads.
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@donner_froh: The "entertainment/information business"?
I'm concerned how easily you use that term. You know Jon Stewart is a fake newsman, right? And that news channels are supposed to give us news, unbiased and transparent?
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OMG! What was Toyota engineers and marketers smoking? Seriously... This car is a guaranteed market flop. Concept is good but the execution cam off like a vanilla Ford Freestyle.
And I had no clue that a Freestyle could be any more Vanilla.
@FuzzyPlushroom: I don't really mess with all those little buttons and stuff, so I hope nobody takes offense that I don't "friend" or "follow" them. Too much for my little brain to handle.
And I haven't been able to change my screen name in weeks, which is why I still have the Evil Dead thing.
I know it seems hypocritical for me to laugh at Toyota's factories halting while I support saving GM and Ford, I'm glad that less Highlanders and Venzas will be on the road. They're so fugly.
@The Name's Ash78, Housewares: "2. States demanding Federal tax money for a (historically) losing proposition is supposed to be good?" -- Like that whole Katrina thing. I'd like my tax dollars back on that one. $800 per family so far and rising. I think we could have just leveled the strike area and completely rebuilt for cheaper. Heck, we could have used it to bailout the automakers with that $100+ billion. At least most of the auto workers are actually working, unlike in New Orleans. What? To unPC?
@LoganSix: Whoa, hold on a sec...I was talking about two auto industry scenarios that are frequenty compared to one another. Not a natural disaster.
If we starting picking apart EVERY use of tax money, the discussion has no end. And yes, Katrina involved some of the worst mishandling of money ever (especially those un-monitored gift cards they gave out...WTF was that?)
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I'm from the South,but I don't agree with what the Southern senators are doing at all!
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But that's beside the point: If you're going to write an editorial then call it that. It seems that you're trying to find facts that support a knee-jerk reaction viewpoint created two seconds after the facts became available but that doesn't really hold up upon further examination. Reminds me of Jon Stewart.
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I don't know that Jalop is just an "ad platform." That's a pretty severe assessment, especially when Jalop doesn't advertise any automaker ads.
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I'm concerned how easily you use that term. You know Jon Stewart is a fake newsman, right? And that news channels are supposed to give us news, unbiased and transparent?
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Then I saw one on the road last week.
OMG! What was Toyota engineers and marketers smoking? Seriously... This car is a guaranteed market flop. Concept is good but the execution cam off like a vanilla Ford Freestyle.
And I had no clue that a Freestyle could be any more Vanilla.
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"Sir, how about a Camry wagon? We're losing some potential customers to Audi, VW, and Volvo"
"That's only a few percentage points. Besides, with CAFE and the low margin on wagons, we can't be bothered."
"OK, well how about we make it a little taller, call it a crossover, and charge several thousand more than a Camry?"
"Johnson, you're a genius"
"Thank you, sir"
"I was talking to my crotch"
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And I haven't been able to change my screen name in weeks, which is why I still have the Evil Dead thing.
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1. States betting their tax money on a winning proposition is good, right?
2. States demanding Federal tax money for a (historically) losing proposition is supposed to be good?
Sounds like apples and oranges with respect to whose tax money we're talking about.
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If we starting picking apart EVERY use of tax money, the discussion has no end. And yes, Katrina involved some of the worst mishandling of money ever (especially those un-monitored gift cards they gave out...WTF was that?)