My 67 Ford's leaking gas out of the tank, but it only leaks if it's above half a tank...so I went for a drive.
Having "solved" the gas issue, I put the steering back together on the LeMons-mobile and removed the AC.
Oddly enough, the steering parts I needed were all in the trunk of the car when we picked it up...along with corn, seeds, miscellaneous trash and a pair of dirty underwear.
Lucky for me, there was a socket wedged between the AC compressor and the block. Free tools FTW.
I have to say, points are VERY under-rated, especially by the kids these days. Wait a minute- Murilee, aren't you _older_ than I am? I find a certain satisfaction with dragging out the dwell meter and finding that sweet spot that those lovely little mechanical thingamawhatchits will dance in for 12 or 15 thousand miles before I have to twiddle them a bit again.
Case in point: the LeMons Volvo 122, which will run the upcoming race on a point ignition, with a generator charging the battery for good measure. If an MIRV hits during the race, we'll win on laps for sure!
@mechimike: I'm old enough to remember a time when electronic ignition components were rare and highly sought-after in the junkyard. Man, I remember how happy I was when I scored an HEI for my Chevy 283 at U-Pull Auto Wrecking.
Points suck. Period. If you remember the 70s, then you remember how many cars you used to see broken down on the highways, or running like crap and looking for an inconvenient place to break down. 90% of the time, ignition points were to blame.
And 12,000 to 15,000 miles between points adjustments? You've obviously never had an air-cooled Beetle!
@Murilee Martin: I've driven a fair number of points-equipped cars, and I've never had a problem with them. I'm not old enough to recall the 1970's (born in '77) but my experience with points is the same any anything on any old car- you take care of them, and they'll take care of you. Plus, if an ignition module goes, you're pretty much stranded without warning. Points will run like crap and give you some warning of impending failure. And you can usually fix them with a nail file and a matchbook cover.
Never have owned a Beetle, closest thing to that would be my '64 Corvair- also air cooled, and with a Perktronics electronic ignition conversion, done by the prev. owner!
@TurboBrick: Yes we did, but this year we're going for the win on LAPS. If we make it, I think it'll be the first time in LeMons history that a former IoE winner subsequently wins the race outright!
Because really, we can't expect to win on Effluence two years in a row!
@Murilee Martin: Right, i can remember when electronic ignitions were considered to be black magic, and only slightly more reputable than a Fish carburetor.
I've cleaned and regapped my points, at midnight, with a matchbook. One one side was an endless mound of landfill, on the other the industrial regional post office. In between, a good place to leave the bodies. So glad I could do the job from the driver's seat, and I had a working light.
Used to be you'd do a full tune up about twice a year, and then clean the points and plugs in the middle of that cycle, if you were lucky. I never had a car with those GM distributors where you could adjust the points with an Allen key while the engine was running. What a lot of frustrating trial and error.
My first full tune up was on an Opel Kadett (POS). It took a full day, because I could never get the points gapped properly - well the gap and dwell angle was right, but the engine would hardly run. Ran the battery down completely trying to get it dialed. Fortunately it clicked, just as the owner returned!
Now I just have to worry about the leaking coil packs on my direct ignition, that have to be replaced as the entire assembly...
@dculberson: I was wondering if anybody else caught that. WTF? Are they so afraid they might lose out on the value of 5 lbs or so of mixed metals (I'm assuming the core charge was for the distributor), that they'll charge you extra if you don't have a dead one to bring back? Or do they just figure that since they've got you by the short and curlies already, there's no harm in giving a good tug, just because they can?
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@Mike the Dog: It just occurred to me that in California, lead is a regulated substance. It is possible that the core charge was designed to get the lead in the parts you're replacing back to the junkyard for proper disposal. Can anybody confirm or refute this?
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@Mike the Dog will work for a Preview Button!: The core charges are just a scam to get extra money. You have to jump through many hoops to get your core money, so few even try. It's only worth doing on stuff like radiators, which have $15 cores. Stuff like master cylinders have $2 cores.
Wow, that poor old BMW--once upon a time that was someone's dream acquisition!
Been quite awhile since I had the pleasure of wandering around a junk yard--I used to browse for 66 Fury parts--as various bits got old or dinged, you could just take a look around while you were there--in the later 70s they started crushing a lot more and you never knew what losses tomorrow would bring.
@Novaload Misses Murilee: I remember my elementary school principal buying a brand new champagne 318i. Boy, were the Datsun and Country Squire-driving teachers envious.
@Pleco - In hoons nos fides: Pleco, are you in the Bay Area too? And is the cluster actually going into an SHO, or something almost certainly less interesting?
@Murilee Martin: I believe they were in 94-97 Birds. They are notorious for crapping out, so working ones are a very nice junkyard score indeed.
I had one of my best finds ever a few weeks ago- a Lincoln Mark VIII with the very rare, 1993-only "Aquamarine" interior in almost perfect condition (unlike mine). I got a JBL amplifier, steering wheel w/ airbag, sun visors, and every single trim piece I could remove in the 15 minutes before the yard closed. 50 bucks.
I have a love/hate relationship with junkyards.. I can go 20 times without finding a single car of interest, but all that wasted time is so very worthwhile when I finally hit the jackpot.
I'm loving the PCH-MM Edition updates. Nice haul for $40. Just make sure to leave enough room in the budget to hire a medicine man to come out and cast out any lingering evil spirits.
@engineerd should be known as RetardeD: And don't forget to figure in a few bucks for the goat that needs to be sacrificed. Oh wait... never mind. You're already erasing the Lucas bits from it.
Yes! A '79-'80 Corona! My folks had an identical '80, although this one looks like it might be a Luxury Edition liftback. I always liked how old Toyota models used to have their own emblems.
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Today was a good day in PCH-land.
My 67 Ford's leaking gas out of the tank, but it only leaks if it's above half a tank...so I went for a drive.
Having "solved" the gas issue, I put the steering back together on the LeMons-mobile and removed the AC.
Oddly enough, the steering parts I needed were all in the trunk of the car when we picked it up...along with corn, seeds, miscellaneous trash and a pair of dirty underwear.
Lucky for me, there was a socket wedged between the AC compressor and the block. Free tools FTW.
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Case in point: the LeMons Volvo 122, which will run the upcoming race on a point ignition, with a generator charging the battery for good measure. If an MIRV hits during the race, we'll win on laps for sure!
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Points suck. Period. If you remember the 70s, then you remember how many cars you used to see broken down on the highways, or running like crap and looking for an inconvenient place to break down. 90% of the time, ignition points were to blame.
And 12,000 to 15,000 miles between points adjustments? You've obviously never had an air-cooled Beetle!
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Never have owned a Beetle, closest thing to that would be my '64 Corvair- also air cooled, and with a Perktronics electronic ignition conversion, done by the prev. owner!
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Because really, we can't expect to win on Effluence two years in a row!
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I've cleaned and regapped my points, at midnight, with a matchbook. One one side was an endless mound of landfill, on the other the industrial regional post office. In between, a good place to leave the bodies. So glad I could do the job from the driver's seat, and I had a working light.
Used to be you'd do a full tune up about twice a year, and then clean the points and plugs in the middle of that cycle, if you were lucky. I never had a car with those GM distributors where you could adjust the points with an Allen key while the engine was running. What a lot of frustrating trial and error.
My first full tune up was on an Opel Kadett (POS). It took a full day, because I could never get the points gapped properly - well the gap and dwell angle was right, but the engine would hardly run. Ran the battery down completely trying to get it dialed. Fortunately it clicked, just as the owner returned!
Now I just have to worry about the leaking coil packs on my direct ignition, that have to be replaced as the entire assembly...
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Been quite awhile since I had the pleasure of wandering around a junk yard--I used to browse for 66 Fury parts--as various bits got old or dinged, you could just take a look around while you were there--in the later 70s they started crushing a lot more and you never knew what losses tomorrow would bring.
Nice vicarious junk yard trip, Murilee.
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I had one of my best finds ever a few weeks ago- a Lincoln Mark VIII with the very rare, 1993-only "Aquamarine" interior in almost perfect condition (unlike mine). I got a JBL amplifier, steering wheel w/ airbag, sun visors, and every single trim piece I could remove in the 15 minutes before the yard closed. 50 bucks.
I have a love/hate relationship with junkyards.. I can go 20 times without finding a single car of interest, but all that wasted time is so very worthwhile when I finally hit the jackpot.
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