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    The Jalopnik Guide To Mid-Mounted Engine Faux Pas

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    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    08/21/09

    In reply to The Jalopnik Guide To Mid-Mounted Engine Faux Pas
    Personally, I think this whole thread is misguided... look at the expression on the lady's face - she's not thinking: "OMIGOD, where am I supposed to put this bag?", she's thinking: "No WONDER it wouldn't start... some idiot crammed a dead hooker in there, thinking it was the trunk - and in the process broke the feed lines to the #5 & #7 fuel injectors... those mechanically inept MORONS!" (and yes, that was two dead hooker references in one thread).

    And the 2nd pic is simply the result of the Lambo driver having brake-checked the bike messenger who was tailgating him a little too closely... the bike forks are wedged in the engine vent fins, and the Lambo owner just put those rails on there temporarily in order to position the bike upright for the photo he needed for the insurance claim.
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    Image of silence808 silence808
    08/21/09

    In reply to The Jalopnik Guide To Mid-Mounted Engine Faux Pas
    I had a 3rd Gen Toyota MR-S, and used to love grocery shopping - if there were people in the parking lot and looking my way, I'd open the front trunk and throw my groceries in under the hood. Close the hood, hop in, drive away. It drew mostly quizzical looks, but at least once I told someone it was a hybrid that ran on sandwiches.
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    Mobius says welcome back! promoted this comment silence808 was starred silence808 was unstarred
    Image of Mobius Mobius
    08/22/09

    @silence808: And when you fill up, do you go for the tuna or turkey sandwiches?
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    Image of dragon951 dragon951
    08/21/09

    In reply to The Jalopnik Guide To Mid-Mounted Engine Faux Pas
    Uh...how about:

    Solution A- Don't give a mid-engined car to an idiot.

    Solution B- If you can afford a Lambo, you can afford a second car to put your bike on.
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    Mobius says welcome back! promoted this comment dragon951 was starred dragon951 was unstarred
    Image of Mobius Mobius
    08/22/09

    @dragon951: How about you get a sense of humour?

    Don't mean to be condescending or anything, but those are mostly for fun. The model, Natalie Polgar, is a member of Peter Orosz's site Hyperleggera. I'm guessing she knows about cars.
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    Image of Alfa-November Alfa-November
    08/21/09

    In reply to The Jalopnik Guide To Mid-Mounted Engine Faux Pas
    My X1/9 had two trunks. Two is better than one. That's twice the functionality of you engine-placement traditionalists.
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    FlakJack promoted this comment Alfa-November was starred Alfa-November was unstarred
    Image of joneez wants the clunkers he paid for joneez wants the clunkers he paid for
    08/21/09

    @Alfa-November: I kept a tool box in the front trunk of mine. Not to work on the car with but to limit understeer.
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    HoonThatFerrari promoted this comment joneez wants the clunkers he paid for was starred joneez wants the clunkers he paid for was unstarred
    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    08/21/09

    @joneez wants the clunkers he paid for: You're supposed to use dead hookers for that... get it right.
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    Image of joneez wants the clunkers he paid for joneez wants the clunkers he paid for
    08/22/09

    @HoonThatFerrari: Sorry...I was young and stupid at the time.
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    Image of Mobius Mobius
    08/22/09

    @joneez wants the clunkers he paid for: If you were old enough to drive, you were old enough to get dead hookers.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    08/21/09

    In reply to The Jalopnik Guide To Mid-Mounted Engine Faux Pas
    How can the mid engine not feel natural? Put the single heaviest non-structural component as close to both the center of the car, and to the driving wheels, as possible. Your polar moment of inertia is now sharply reduced. The yaw center is moved almost directly under the driver's right asscheek. There is no big, heavy driveshaft to bog acceleration. In short, it's about 31 flavors of Win.

    Okay, it does leave less space in the stern for groceries. But if Toyota can leave space for five shopping bags behind the mill of the ultra-tiny first-gen MR2 and no one complains, then you know that when you pony up for a mid engine ride, luggage space isn't your first concern.
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    Image of DarthLefty DarthLefty
    08/21/09

    @Elhigh: It's not natural because you've gone and put the engine where the people would like to be.
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    IN THE FACE! promoted this comment DarthLefty was starred DarthLefty was unstarred
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    08/21/09

    @DarthLefty: not "the people" just passengers #3 & #4, and ya know. Once you have a good passenger #2, then #3 and #4 can fuckoff anyway...
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    Image of Mobius Mobius
    08/22/09

    @Elhigh: And it took Porsche 40 years to get that message.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    08/21/09

    In reply to The Jalopnik Guide To Mid-Mounted Engine Faux Pas
    With 32 valves and eight cylinders already back there, I'd say her shopping's done.
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    Image of Number_Six Number_Six
    08/21/09

    @Elhigh: I hate to be a pedant but she's peering at a V-10 and 40 valves.

    /douchepedantry
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    08/21/09

    @Number_Six: Oh, the spares are back there too?
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    Image of LTDScott LTDScott
    08/21/09

    In reply to The Jalopnik Guide To Mid-Mounted Engine Faux Pas

    Or you could do this:
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    Image of LTDScott LTDScott
    08/21/09


    @LTDScott's work is getting in the way of Jaloptime:
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    08/21/09

    @LTDScott's work is getting in the way of Jaloptime: Not so much a mid engine fail, but definitely a lambo fail. Please tell me they pulled the twin out of a lambo tractor.
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    08/21/09

    @LTDScott's work is getting in the way of Jaloptime: That's sort of a washout on the douchefactor - using a Lambo to tow is negated by the fact that it's a Lambo-badged chopper.
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    Image of Dr. H. F. Danger Dr. H. F. Danger
    08/21/09

    @LTDScott's work is getting in the way of Jaloptime: Nooooooooooooooooooo!
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    Image of CptSevere CptSevere
    08/21/09

    @mr_dude: It looks like an S&S that they pulled out of a Drag Specialties catalog. Common as dirt.
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    mr_dude promoted this comment CptSevere was starred CptSevere was unstarred
    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    08/21/09

    @CptSevere: In that case, front street FAIL.
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    Image of IN THE FACE! IN THE FACE!
    08/21/09

    @LTDScott's work is getting in the way of Jaloptime: Only in Florida, where everyone is constantly trying to compensate for the fact that their state looks like flaccid cock.
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    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    08/21/09

    @IN THE FACE!: Dewd, if anyone's flaccid cock has what appears to be a massive swamp towards the lower end of it, I would strongly advise they see a physician right away.
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    Image of roaduscarnivorous roaduscarnivorous
    08/21/09

    In reply to The Jalopnik Guide To Mid-Mounted Engine Faux Pas
    only 2? this is week for jalopnik
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    dolo54 blows minds and blows engines! promoted this comment roaduscarnivorous was starred roaduscarnivorous was unstarred
    Image of dolo54 blows minds and blows engines! dolo54 blows minds and blows engines!
    08/21/09

    @roaduscarnivorous: your spelling is week (sorry couldn't resist).
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    Image of acarr260 acarr260
    08/21/09

    @dolo54 blows minds and blows engines!: Owr edukashun sistum iz n disrupear.
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    Edited by acarr260 at 08/21/09 2:27 PM acarr260 was starred acarr260 was unstarred
    Image of SundaySunday SundaySunday
    08/21/09

    In reply to The Jalopnik Guide To Mid-Mounted Engine Faux Pas
    Since when are groceries a concern for mid-engine supercar owners, anyways?

    Oh, yeah, that's right. I have the same trouble with my help.
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    Image of Joshuman Joshuman
    08/21/09

    In reply to The Jalopnik Guide To Mid-Mounted Engine Faux Pas

    Let us not forget this Lotus Esprit Turbo:
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    brandegee promoted this comment Joshuman was starred Joshuman was unstarred
    Image of brandegee brandegee
    08/21/09

    @Joshman Nanzaret: That type of roof rack and mounting arrangement is called the Camber Adjuster, or The Delaminator. Particularly effective on pre-Kevlar sticks.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    08/21/09

    @brandegee: You know you're riding some old sleds, and really hauling the groceries, when you get to the slopes and find bug bits wedged between the lams. I mean, dang.
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    Image of ChiefPontiaxe ChiefPontiaxe
    08/21/09

    @Joshman Nanzaret: I don't think that boat anchor in the back of that Esprit gives off enough heat to harm those skis
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    FlakJack promoted this comment ChiefPontiaxe was starred ChiefPontiaxe was unstarred
    Image of Mobius Mobius
    08/22/09

    @Joshman Nanzaret: I'm pretty sure that rack is actually designed for machine guns and hellfires. That's the peacetime version.
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    Image of Joshuman Joshuman
    08/21/09

    In reply to The Jalopnik Guide To Mid-Mounted Engine Faux Pas
    Hey, I was going to mention Bernd Rosemeyer’s 1936 Auto Union Type C racing car on shopping bag. Do you think the nice woman just passed some gas? Do you think I stared at that picture too long and should get back to work?
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    acarr260 promoted this comment Edited by Joshuman at 08/21/09 2:03 PM Joshuman was starred Joshuman was unstarred
    Image of acarr260 acarr260
    08/21/09

    @Joshman Nanzaret: Nah, go ahead and take the rest of the day off. If someone gives you guff about it, just send them over here.
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    08/21/09

    In reply to The Jalopnik Guide To Mid-Mounted Engine Faux Pas
    The problem:
    We see a crime boss's son lose the rear end trying to avoid rear ending another car on track. He texts "Wtch thz l8 apx!" to all his shapska-clad homies only to look up and see a Mercedes being driven like a Mercedes. He brakes, steers hard, and allows that bulbous rear end to swing around like a Lakers cheerleader. Then it's into the wall.

    The solution:
    Buy an awd supercar with power bias, set the front to max.

    The Jalopnik solution:
    Give him a little nudge with the front left, bursting your intercooler. Lose traction and slide into the wall such that your Bugatti bursts into flames. Hop out, put on the sunglasses and hat, and pose for the cameras. Wink and exclaim, "that'll buff right out!"
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    08/21/09

    @mr_dude: The better solution for this driver, since this Bug has a triple-diff AWD system, is to avoid supercars entirely.
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    08/21/09

    @brandegee: Not an option, if you're a mobster's son you gotta flaunt.

    *perplexed* Is there such thing as awd with more or less than three diffs? (Discounting the fact that you could have solid axles all around and have an awd that drives like shit).
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    Image of TowMe TowMe
    08/21/09

    @mr_dude: I dont think the solution is correct. He wouldve crashed anyway - just not as spectacularly.
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    mr_dude promoted this comment TowMe was starred TowMe was unstarred
    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    08/21/09

    @TowMe: Probably, but I had to try since Peter only gave us two frames of hilarity.

    The quickness with which he got sideways and the slow Mercedes leads me to believe it was all on the brakes. It was after the apex so he could have been on the power, in which case biasing it forward would have saved a trip to the wall.
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    Image of ThreeLitre ThreeLitre
    08/21/09

    In reply to The Jalopnik Guide To Mid-Mounted Engine Faux Pas
    You missed a couple steps with the bicycle: Get Pirelli to design ZR-rated bike tires. Fit to wheels. Pray.
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    Image of MTBVibe MTBVibe
    08/21/09

    @ThreeLitre: Actually, as a wily veteran of that particular stunt, here are my own recommended steps:
    1) Tow rope.
    2) DH MTB armor (or motocross armor).
    3) Long, curvy uphill road...which leads into long, curvy, downhill road. (**: Bonus points if you decide to skip the paved part of the road, double bonus points if you skip the road part altogether.)
    4) Friend with WRX or Evo.

    You use the tow-rope while your friend does his best hill climb road race impression on the way up the hill. At the top, he slams the brakes and you slingshot past him and hit the downhill. I highly recommend using a full-on downhill race bike for this particular outing, as the only way you'll be able to stop without leaving yourself streaked across several hundred feet of pavement/gravel/dirt is if you are equipped with disc brakes.

    Tirewise, both Maxxis and Kenda make some pretty good hard durometer DH tires.
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    HoonThatFerrari promoted this comment MTBVibe was starred MTBVibe was unstarred
    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    08/21/09

    In reply to The Jalopnik Guide To Mid-Mounted Engine Faux Pas
    Pah! That's why all modern and contemporary supercars are crap compared to the Maserati Bora. ALL HAIL THE MASERATI BORA!!!
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    Image of dolo54 blows minds and blows engines! dolo54 blows minds and blows engines!
    08/21/09

    In reply to The Jalopnik Guide To Mid-Mounted Engine Faux Pas

    You know when I think of "Mid Engined Faux Pas" there is only one thing that springs to mind...
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    Image of P.Ξ.L.M. wonders if he should change his Xterra P.Ξ.L.M. wonders if he should change his Xterra
    08/21/09

    @dolo54 blows minds and blows engines!: I just spent 4k$ on laser eye surgery and you sir just screw everything.
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    Leeeeena a Jalopchick promoted this comment P.Ξ.L.M. wonders if he should change his Xterra was starred P.Ξ.L.M. wonders if he should change his Xterra was unstarred
    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    08/21/09

    @dolo54 blows minds and blows engines!: Uneven weight distribution?
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    mr_dude was starred mr_dude was unstarred
    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    08/21/09

    @P.Ξ.L.M. wants a Ford RAPTOR !: Good song title.
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    Image of acarr260 acarr260
    08/21/09

    @dolo54 blows minds and blows engines!: Every time I finally forget about that abomination, someone brings it back up on here. Thanks. Remember, we must never forget the depravities of the past, lest we be compelled to repeat them (or some such nonsense).
     Reply
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