Is there anyone left who just gets in their car, picks a place they are going to and just goes?
Sure, a map is in the glove box but unless absolutely needed I don't pull it out.
Sure, sometimes I'll do a quick glance on the PC before heading out to get some bearings.
I learned the surrounding area I live in that way. I can remember being Sixteen and had a full tank of gas. Someone told me there was a great Bar 25 miles away that served underage for carry out. I didn't have a map. Maps cost money and the Twenty I had was for the Beer. I scribbled down some half ass directions and off me and the guys went after school on a Friday.
I think it was two hours later we found the place out in the middle of nowhere. Then it took forever to get home. (Cold Beer you know) and life was good.
What happened to our sense of adventure? Or is this it? Hoping the technology we trust so much actually works correctly. Or that the roads haven't been upgraded or changed since the last 2.09 download.
And all that said I know what I'll end up getting for Christmas this year, a Garmin, not that I want it, the wife wants it. She so hates when I tell her, "Let's just head that way and see what we see."
This is how my wife and I have traveled the NA continent over the past four years. Pick a turnaround point, usually only because of convenience, head there, or not, and eventually return to the starting point.
It's a neat way to see the world, honestly. We have all the travels mapped on a PC in MS Streets & Trips by using GPS and an antenna, but that was just so we could see where we'd been.
Referencing a paper map would have been quite useful in avoiding the dirt National Forest Service road, at night, in Idaho. We travel in a 40' diesel motorhome, and at the time were pulling a '99 Suzuki Grand Vitara, so 'bout 58', total.
@lilwillie: I did until I got lost where no one should ever get lost. You lose that sense of adventure real quick when you fear for your life and for that matter your car. #googlestreetview
The time issue can be solved easily for long trips using a technique I already implement with Google Maps.
My wife uses Google Maps in a way that would make a 300 mile drive into a 4 hour virtual drive video. She punches in the destination, punches in the starting point, and prints out turn by turn directions from our driveway to the destination... on the other end of the state. Printing a map is secondary to those turn by turn directions.
This works fine until you take a wrong turn, or ignore the directions 'til you get close at such time as you've forgotten which turn you're on. You end up hopelessly lost on some logging road, roaring through someone's hunting camp at the intersection of nowhere and Timbuktu because you didn't have the information you really needed.
Here's what I do: If my journey is 5 miles of driving from my house to the freeway, 300 miles of freeways, and 5 miles from the freeway to my destination I don't need 310 miles of turn by turn directions, I need 6 to 8 miles of map surrounding my destination. Google Maps has a great feature after you've looked up your destination. You can pan around 'til you find a freeway or familiar landmark, right click and select "directions from here". It gives you the 5 miles you weren't familiar with and skips the 305 you could drive with your eyes closed (figure of speech... don't drive with your eyes closed).
A virtual drive would be less help to me than a plain ol' road map. But then, I'm an engineer and Eagle Scout... spacial awareness and navigation aren't really a problem for me.
I've been known to use Google streetview to take a virtual trip through my old neigborhood. It can be rather entertaining, but not much use when planning a trip.
I use MapQuest almost exclusively when planning a trip to anywhere I haven't been. The text directions can be sometimes turn you in the wrong direction, so comparing it to the map is a good idea.
This seems like the logical next step in the evolution of online mapping, but I'm not sure that it adds enough functionality to justify its existence. Not that an amalgamation of Streetview and MapQuest is a bad thing, just unneccesary.
@Pete Gaines: I have to agree. Living in the land that defined the Michigan Left, Bing makes it easy to find a turn around on Woodward that won't be clogged.
@Pete Gaines: Bird's eye is very cool indeed, but there's currently far less coverage than Street View, which just substantially expanded its own coverage. Rural areas are pretty much left out of bird's eye so far. Looks like Google is also starting to reshoot streets that earlier had fuzzy low-resolution pictures. The recent high-res photography is spectacular. I can see Google offering animated street views before long.
I don't get it. Why don't they include more classic racers, because that actually has a point. People love racing the cars that they've only seen in pictures and upgrading them with modern parts and racing them is just plain fun. What's the point of SUV's anyway? Nobody has ever dreamed of what it would be like to race an Escalade around the Nurburgring (transit van maybe, but that's it.)
@Evil-Jeremy: They are here for interesting challenges. They are here as punishment for both losers and non-drinkers. But I agree that they have no business being added before LeMans and Can Am racers.
I believe that there was talk of some of the online play modes that would divide the racers into teams with one car being designated the "mouse" and the rest of the team was supposed to block for the mouse and the opposing team was supposed to wreck the mouse or something like that. I could see where SUVs would be useful in that mode. I might be confusing this with GT5.
I sincerely hope (having never played the Forza games) that there's damage modelling. Racing a Q7 would be cool, but rolling one over and utterly destroying it would be far more satisfying.
Wagon Battle! The first Gran Turismo had a lot of odd cars, including a stable of station wagons. My friends and I would engage in "wagon battles" with these clunky beasts.
I don't remember signing an internet petition to have racing games reinstate Wagon Battle, and yet they read my mind anyway.
@FP - missing Pete and the SHOwagon: Loved taking the classic lego block Volvo wagon around the New York track. Bookin' it as fast as possible and slamming on the brakes to go into that tight U-turn, in replay it showed the suspension smooshing so badly the nose scraped and sent sparks everywhere.
@Uberdude328i: I try and forget it, but I can't. I traded my points in on a Cayenne and then tried to get all the SUV races out of the way as quickly as possible.
How about we ditch the SUVs and race firetrucks, tanker trucks, school buses, trucks pulling boats, trucks pulling campers, and tow trucks pulling VW beetles? I would stand in line for that game.
@Pete Gaines wuz here: Ever played Midtown Madness? The first one had a city bus and a Freightliner Century class, the second added an American France ladder truck. I'm sure the third had even more, but I never played it (not getting an Xbox until several months ago).
@Maymar is breaking in the commenting system...: Never played it but now I want to. I can't say GTAIV was a great game but the car physics and multiplayer allowed you to race anything in the game which made for alot of fun and laughs.
@Pete Gaines wuz here: I think it must be a PS2 game but there was that Destruction Derby game where you could race around in a school bus. I think there was a special event where you toe a boat behind your vehicle and race/demolish other players that way as well.
@Pete Gaines wuz here: In GTA: San Andreas, there was a tow truck that would spawn next to a barn near the big mountain on the second island. I snagged the tow truck, drove far enough away that it would respawn, then hook the new tow truck to the old one and repeat till I had a huge chain of the things, like ten of 'em.
I then took that tow truck centipede, and slowly, carefully, drove it up to the summit of the mountain, hit the throttle and jumped the whole shebang off the ramp that was up there. Didn't get terribly far, but usually one of the last trucks in the chain would get whipped out a ways, while it rained tow trucks on the highway below.
@Maymar is breaking in the commenting system...: God I loved that game. I liked taking the bus out to the freeway exit blocking it sideways and watching the carnage ensue.
@Adam In Texas: +1. Test Drive, Eve of Destruction. XBox, hard to find. Almost all of the race modes were brilliant, and Car Soccer was second only to Cops and Robbers in Midtown Madness 2.
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Sure, a map is in the glove box but unless absolutely needed I don't pull it out.
Sure, sometimes I'll do a quick glance on the PC before heading out to get some bearings.
I learned the surrounding area I live in that way. I can remember being Sixteen and had a full tank of gas. Someone told me there was a great Bar 25 miles away that served underage for carry out. I didn't have a map. Maps cost money and the Twenty I had was for the Beer. I scribbled down some half ass directions and off me and the guys went after school on a Friday.
I think it was two hours later we found the place out in the middle of nowhere. Then it took forever to get home. (Cold Beer you know) and life was good.
What happened to our sense of adventure? Or is this it? Hoping the technology we trust so much actually works correctly. Or that the roads haven't been upgraded or changed since the last 2.09 download.
And all that said I know what I'll end up getting for Christmas this year, a Garmin, not that I want it, the wife wants it. She so hates when I tell her, "Let's just head that way and see what we see."
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This is how my wife and I have traveled the NA continent over the past four years. Pick a turnaround point, usually only because of convenience, head there, or not, and eventually return to the starting point.
It's a neat way to see the world, honestly. We have all the travels mapped on a PC in MS Streets & Trips by using GPS and an antenna, but that was just so we could see where we'd been.
Referencing a paper map would have been quite useful in avoiding the dirt National Forest Service road, at night, in Idaho. We travel in a 40' diesel motorhome, and at the time were pulling a '99 Suzuki Grand Vitara, so 'bout 58', total.
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My wife uses Google Maps in a way that would make a 300 mile drive into a 4 hour virtual drive video. She punches in the destination, punches in the starting point, and prints out turn by turn directions from our driveway to the destination... on the other end of the state. Printing a map is secondary to those turn by turn directions.
This works fine until you take a wrong turn, or ignore the directions 'til you get close at such time as you've forgotten which turn you're on. You end up hopelessly lost on some logging road, roaring through someone's hunting camp at the intersection of nowhere and Timbuktu because you didn't have the information you really needed.
Here's what I do: If my journey is 5 miles of driving from my house to the freeway, 300 miles of freeways, and 5 miles from the freeway to my destination I don't need 310 miles of turn by turn directions, I need 6 to 8 miles of map surrounding my destination. Google Maps has a great feature after you've looked up your destination. You can pan around 'til you find a freeway or familiar landmark, right click and select "directions from here". It gives you the 5 miles you weren't familiar with and skips the 305 you could drive with your eyes closed (figure of speech... don't drive with your eyes closed).
A virtual drive would be less help to me than a plain ol' road map. But then, I'm an engineer and Eagle Scout... spacial awareness and navigation aren't really a problem for me.
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I use MapQuest almost exclusively when planning a trip to anywhere I haven't been. The text directions can be sometimes turn you in the wrong direction, so comparing it to the map is a good idea.
This seems like the logical next step in the evolution of online mapping, but I'm not sure that it adds enough functionality to justify its existence. Not that an amalgamation of Streetview and MapQuest is a bad thing, just unneccesary.
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These things are included SOLELY for the purposes of playing cat and mouse with a mini cooper.
That's the _ENTIRE_ reason they're in here.
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Navigator?
Aspen Hemi Hybrid?
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That's reality with an SUV...not 'racing'.
A proper off-road race is called 0-50. Longer times = better. It's 0-50 yards, and your goal is forever, but in-motion the entire time.
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Amphicars, though...
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Oh, wrong Challenger.
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And if the Challenger is too fat, it's only because it was built in Canada using German engineering.
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I don't remember signing an internet petition to have racing games reinstate Wagon Battle, and yet they read my mind anyway.
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I then took that tow truck centipede, and slowly, carefully, drove it up to the summit of the mountain, hit the throttle and jumped the whole shebang off the ramp that was up there. Didn't get terribly far, but usually one of the last trucks in the chain would get whipped out a ways, while it rained tow trucks on the highway below.
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