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    Next Mercedes B-Class Getting Pontiac Vibe-Like Profile

    Mercedes F-CELL: Zero Emissions, 106 MPH, Available In US Next Year

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    Image of skierpage skierpage
    10/09/09

    In reply to Next Mercedes B-Class Getting Pontiac Vibe-Like Profile
    You can buy the current B Class in Canada for CDN $29,900!
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    10/09/09

    In reply to Next Mercedes B-Class Getting Pontiac Vibe-Like Profile
    First World luxury cars, Third World taxicabs, and upper-middle-class minivans. Outside of Toyota/Nissan in their home market, who else could pull that off?
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    Image of Jagvar Jagvar
    10/09/09

    In reply to Next Mercedes B-Class Getting Pontiac Vibe-Like Profile
    Make a B63 AMG and it'd be interesting. Ooh, or a B65 AMG! Just don't ask me how to shoehorn a V12 biturbo into that thing. I'll leave that to the engineers.
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    Maymar promoted this comment Jagvar was starred Jagvar was unstarred
    Image of Maymar Maymar
    10/09/09

    @Jagvar: Who really needs a back seat or trunk space anyways?
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    Image of B1663R B1663R
    10/09/09

    In reply to Next Mercedes B-Class Getting Pontiac Vibe-Like Profile
    Pontiac vibe-like you say?

    i'm more partial to a Toyota Matrix-ishy styling thanks.
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    Image of MR42HH MR42HH
    10/09/09

    In reply to Next Mercedes B-Class Getting Pontiac Vibe-Like Profile
    At least the current B-Class is unique: A tall, roomy hatchback that somehow manages to squeeze a E-Class sized interior into a Golf-sized exterior. That's the reason for the excellent sales numbers. This new one: meh.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    10/09/09

    In reply to Next Mercedes B-Class Getting Pontiac Vibe-Like Profile
    We're not getting it anyway, right?

    We'll I say keep it the way it is. Let the Europeans drive it. I'm tired of being jealous of the offerings they have over there. Their super diesels, their multiple turbo offerings.

    Now I won't be as jealous. When I talk to relatives and they tell me how wonderful a certain new car is, I'll just say: Yes, but what about the new Mercedes B-Class?

    They will have no choice but to shut-up.
    Thank you Mercedes, unless you plan on shipping it here- don't, please.
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    Image of Steve_in_NC Steve_in_NC
    10/09/09

    In reply to Next Mercedes B-Class Getting Pontiac Vibe-Like Profile
    The 'marriage of equals' planted some unholy seed, and the harvest has begun.
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    Image of OldeEnglishD OldeEnglishD
    10/09/09

    In reply to Next Mercedes B-Class Getting Pontiac Vibe-Like Profile
    Are 5 door hatchback buyers really looking for a Mercedes? Somehow I doubt Mazda3, VW Golf, WRX buyers are going to cross shop this.
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    Image of JimmyFo JimmyFo
    10/09/09

    In reply to Next Mercedes B-Class Getting Pontiac Vibe-Like Profile
    "The requested article no longer exists"
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    10/09/09

    @JimmyFo: Sorry, they changed the URL, should be fixed now.
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    Image of Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master
    10/09/09

    In reply to Next Mercedes B-Class Getting Pontiac Vibe-Like Profile
    Chop the roof down and call it the world's first "5-door Coupe." Come on, Merc, you know you want to.
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    Image of SeanKHotay SeanKHotay
    08/28/09

    In reply to Mercedes F-CELL: Zero Emissions, 106 MPH, Available In US Next Year
    Actually, -25°C cold start is pretty impressive for a fuel cell.

    Or are they using the Li-ion battery to power the hot plate?
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    Image of maximum-sienna maximum-sienna
    08/28/09

    In reply to Mercedes F-CELL: Zero Emissions, 106 MPH, Available In US Next Year
    You know, I am so sick of this Hydrogen and Plug-In crap. Really.

    If you want to spend the money, buy a diesel car, with a manual. Heck, VW sells a wagon like that stateside.

    This globar warming crap is ticking me off. To 99% of Americans, what is going to make them buy a car is how much it will cost now and in the future. Hybrids have little resale value after 150,000 miles because the battery needs to be replaced. Now, go check Craigslist and type in TDI. See how much some of those cars are going for and you'll see what I mean.

    Fuel cells work due to a very expesnive catalyst: platinum (okay, you can also use paladium, but the fuel cell needs to be bigger). While your car also uses this same material for the catalytic converter, the amount needed for a fuel cell is much higher.

    Now, let's talk about infrastructure. How much CO2 emmissions will be required to dig holes for new holding tanks? How much for refridgeration? How much to MAKE hyrdrogen?

    Let me remind everyone that, at best, generators are about 30% efficient once you count in transmission losses over the lines (the generator can be upto 50% is somecases, but losses in the transmission lines are almost 50%, especially in the west). Sure, localized pwoer generation is easier to clean and regulate, but is it worth the hassel to completely revamp 100 years of infrasturcture?

    I vote no.

    /end typing, rant still continuing in my end. Must restrain self...
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    skierpage promoted this comment maximum-sienna was starred maximum-sienna was unstarred
    Image of skierpage skierpage
    08/28/09

    @maximum-sienna: Your ranting is confused.

    You're right to hate hydrogen for the complex expensive non-existent inefficient infrastructure, but relax. For years most car makers will make hybrids that have less emissions overall than the hydrogen pipe dream. As battery technology improves you'll have more reason to plug your hybrid in as the cheapest and most efficient way to go the first 5-10-30-... miles before using fossil fuel. (Hydrogen is the wet dream of fossil fuel companies facing that future.)

    You're wrong about transmission and distribution losses, DoE says they were 7% in 1995. Power plant generator efficiency is about 35% (more with cogeneration that uses the waste heat), still better than car engines. And people who bring this up never factor in all the inefficiencies and losses of refining gasoline and the gasoline distribution system. You can drive a car further using the electricity it takes to make a gallon of gasoline than you'd travel on the gasoline itself.
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    Image of skierpage skierpage
    08/28/09

    @maximum-sienna: Hybrids have little resale value after 150,000 miles because the battery needs to be replaced
    No, that's the warranted life for California, most are lasting much longer. When it does need replacement it's a $2300 cost for a Prius (down $700 in 5 years). Meanwhile you've saved about $5000 in gasoline costs (45 vs 30 mpg at $3/gal).

    FWIW, KBB prices a 2004 150,000 mile Prius at $8705 in good condition and a Jetta TDi wagon at $8205 in fart-sniffing California.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    08/28/09

    In reply to Mercedes F-CELL: Zero Emissions, 106 MPH, Available In US Next Year
    Let's just say that they call it the "F-cell" for a reason.
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    Image of brickyard brickyard
    08/28/09

    In reply to Mercedes F-CELL: Zero Emissions, 106 MPH, Available In US Next Year

    The Civic Kid demands justice!
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    08/28/09

    In reply to Mercedes F-CELL: Zero Emissions, 106 MPH, Available In US Next Year
    "But don't get too excited. Like other hydrogen fuel cell vehicles, availability will likely be extremely limited and be restricted to regions with the greatest number of hydrogen filling stations. It's also reasonable to assume that, due to the high cost of the technology, the B-Class F-CELL will only be available on very limited leases and at stupidly high lease prices."

    Fixed.
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