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    Image of OldeEnglishD OldeEnglishD
    12/08/09

    In reply to Shiny Happy Track Stars: The Mazda 3 World Challenge Car
    Wait, isn't that a Bakugan?
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    12/08/09

    In reply to Shiny Happy Track Stars: The Mazda 3 World Challenge Car
    Zannen Nagara.
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    Image of jodark jodark
    12/08/09

    In reply to Shiny Happy Track Stars: The Mazda 3 World Challenge Car
    That's a big grille smile.
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    Image of Bret Bret
    12/08/09

    In reply to Shiny Happy Track Stars: The Mazda 3 World Challenge Car
    I don't know why, but the graphics make the usually benign Mazda corporate grin look menacing in an almost Joker-esque way.

    This is P1 on my Festivus list.
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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    12/08/09

    @Bret: I agree, the graphics actually complement the styling of the car well.
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    08/25/09

    In reply to 2010 Mazdaspeed3: First Drive
    With that red paint, "Lobster Martini" sounds like a decent nickname for this Mazdaspeed3. The reskin has certainly hurt its sleeper status.

    Also, whenever I see that ear-to-ear grin, I start snickering in my mind...in Chester Cheetah's voice. I think this is just me. It's just a dangerously cheesy grille.
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    Edited by bmoreDLJ at 08/25/09 10:59 AM bmoreDLJ was starred bmoreDLJ was unstarred
    Image of Tibu Jenkins Tibu Jenkins
    08/25/09

    In reply to 2010 Mazdaspeed3: First Drive

    Hi! I own an WRX and I think the Mazdaspeed 3 is ugly so I wouldn't ever think of buying it...
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    area_educator promoted this comment Tibu Jenkins was starred Tibu Jenkins was unstarred
    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    08/24/09

    In reply to 2010 Mazdaspeed3: First Drive
    Enough with the complaints about the styling, already. At least it's something different and the overall shape isn't much of a departure from the old car.

    What? Do you want it to look like a cheap econobox, like an Impreza, Corolla or Sentra? Or maybe you'd prefer that it have that mini Pontiac Trans Sport feeling you get with the Civic? Or maybe, just maybe, you're still convinced that the Cobalt isn't a complete piece of shit in every fathomable category?

    Honestly, this Mazda is as good as it gets, in terms of looks or anything else, in the compact class.
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    Image of area_educator area_educator
    08/27/09

    @FromaBuick6: Honestly, this Mazda is as good as it gets, in terms of looks or anything else, in the compact class.

    Not entirely true. The Volvo C30 beats the Mazda on looks, by a wide margin.
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    Image of GV_Goat GV_Goat
    08/24/09

    In reply to 2010 Mazdaspeed3: First Drive
    As far as new cars go, probably the most fun you can have for $23,000.
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    mr_dude promoted this comment GV_Goat was starred GV_Goat was unstarred
    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    08/24/09


    @GV_Goat: Close, you got the right brand anyway.

    The Miata for that price ain't quite as powerful, but there's a lot to be had from a rwd ragtop.
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    Image of GV_Goat GV_Goat
    08/24/09

    @mr_dude: I like the Miata's too... It's just, every time I get in one my testicles say "hey man, it's cool, you drive the miata, we'll just hang out here... wait for you to get back... maybe dangle over a running garbage disposal, you know, man stuff." Of course, I have a policy to never leave my nuts behind so...
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    Image of despisethesun despisethesun
    08/24/09

    @GV_Goat: Would you feel more manly driving a Miata with an LS3?

    [www.flyinmiata.com]
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    Image of GV_Goat GV_Goat
    08/24/09

    @despisethesun: Yes. Yes I would.
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    Image of LionZoo LionZoo
    08/24/09

    @GV_Goat: The "girly" look (why is anything small in America automatically girly?) of the Miata is part of the attraction. It's one thing to blow someone's doors off in a car that everyone knows is fast, quite another thing to do it in a capable car that most unaware laymen think is useless. The same mentality has other men racing station wagons.
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    08/24/09

    @LionZoo: I dunno, but I recently had a bright orange 09 miata, and it was a riotously fun, purpose built distillation of all things good and pure about driving. At legal speeds you feel like you're breaking the law and the motor, though seemingly underpowered, delivers everything you could want. It has been, and is one of the best sports cars on the road.
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    Image of Turboner Turboner
    08/25/09

    @mr_dude: Word.
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    Image of GV_Goat GV_Goat
    08/25/09

    @LionZoo: Racing station wagons is cool. I owned a 323i Touring. I get that.

    Besides, I did say I like the Miata; it's light, chassis is great, handles brilliantly. Nut joke aside, it's just not my cup 'o tea.
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    Edited by GV_Goat at 08/25/09 9:23 AM GV_Goat was starred GV_Goat was unstarred
    Image of The Cheat The Cheat
    08/24/09

    In reply to 2010 Mazdaspeed3: First Drive
    well, there's another one to look at when my lease is up... now it's down to:

    volvo v30
    suburu wrx hatch
    mazdaspeed 3
    hyundai genesis 2.0 track
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    eggwich is the man on the silver mountain promoted this comment Edited by The Cheat at 08/24/09 3:35 PM The Cheat was starred The Cheat was unstarred
    Image of eggwich del fiero eggwich del fiero
    08/24/09

    @The Cheat: This was my list, too. The Volvo is boring to drive but looks good and has some giddyup, and the genesis wasn't out yet, so I can't compare it, but for the money, I went with an 09 Mustang GT. Maybe not the best handling of the choices, but with the arrival of the 2010 model, it was the cheapest. Still love the Speed3, but I had to go V8 when it came down to it. Really tho, you can't go wrong with any of these cars.
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    Image of The Cheat The Cheat
    08/24/09

    @eggwich is the man on the silver mountain: I'm getting out of my VW GLI, which has proved to be a pretty good car but not particularly exciting to drive. I should have never gotten out of my 03 GTI, that had more personality than the MKV GLI.

    Nothing VW has now or in 2010 is very exciting unless you're talking about a W8 with 4motion and that's just way out of my price range. It's like VW thinks that the 2.0 turbo with an open diff is all anyone needs.
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    Image of eggwich del fiero eggwich del fiero
    08/24/09

    @The Cheat: I really like the looks of the CC, but they are pricey. I don't have much experience with VWs, but yeah, the 2.0T seems to be eternal. I'm going to Hyundai's site right now to configure and price a Genesis coupe.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    08/24/09

    In reply to 2010 Mazdaspeed3: First Drive
    All you people hatin' on the looks, listen up. Sure, the grin is goofy. However, did you not RTFA? We...us...North Americans of the US and Canada...are getting a better car than the rest of the world. Mazda, unlike Ford, GM, BMW, and nearly every other carmaker on the planet is not detuning or softening a car for the NA market. They are tightening it up and making it *better*.

    I know the looks are polarizing, but save those complaints for the base 3 and other, lesser Nagare design language cars. Just this once, let's applaud someone for giving us a car that is better than the ones sold in the JDM or Euro markets. Right now we sound like a bunch of spoiled brats the sort of consumer we mock. Y'all are fixated on the looks and not talking about how great it is that we get a car that is *better than the rest of the world*. This doesn't happen.

    Keep it up and Mazda might just say, "Screw you, America." Ford might follow and say they aren't bringing the Focus RS because all we'll do is complain about its looks, and Fiat might say nyet to giving us the Abarth 500 because performance doesn't matter to us.

    /rant
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    08/24/09

    @engineerd: In a way, I agree with you.

    On the other hand, I'd rather have a WRX.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    08/24/09

    @engineerd: I'm sorry, I can't get that excited about it. Yes, North America gets the best version. But, as you said, RTFA. The reason ours is the best version is not that they've made ours so much better than an already-excellent European or JDM version... it's that those versions are largely crap. They're also-rans in a field of excellent cars. That's not something for us to jump up and down and celebrate... it's just an opportunity for us to say to all the other manufacturers, "Listen up. This is our MINIMUM expectation for a hot hatch. Meet this, or GTFO.

    "Oh, and try not to make it this goddamn ugly."
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    skitter promoted this comment Deartháir II was starred Deartháir II was unstarred
    Image of engineerd engineerd
    08/24/09

    @Deartháir II: The Return: That's not what I'm reading here, though. All I'm reading is, "It's so ugly!" "Get that stupid grin off its face." Blah, blah, blah. You're absolutely right, we need to be telling Mazda, "Bad ass! Now make it less Joker-looking."

    We need to tell the rest of the carmakers, "See those cats at Mazda? They know what's up. Take your Euro cars and bring them over here. If you are starting off with a better product and a better-looking product, then you should have no problem beating them in sales."

    Instead, people are fixated on the looks and not what's under the hood, or that finally WE get a better product than the rest of the world. Even if it is an also-ran in the Euro market, it's still better than the current US Focus, or the US Astra, etc.
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    Image of Turboner Turboner
    08/25/09

    @Mad_Science: You don't like wrong wheel drive?
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    Image of B1663R B1663R
    08/24/09

    In reply to 2010 Mazdaspeed3: First Drive
    so it's the same turbo eating engine as before but now with that stupid front end?

    i'll save me a few bucks and pick up an 09 while supplies last thanks...
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    08/24/09

    In reply to 2010 Mazdaspeed3: First Drive
    Lobster Martinis??? Jeez!
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    08/24/09

    @Formerlythegreatestdriver: sound pretty gross to me. I'll take mine dirty please.
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    08/24/09

    @Formerlythegreatestdriver: I can't wait to see Wes's top 10 bribe dinners listicle.
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    08/24/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: I know there are quite a few martini places around SE-MI but have you been to the one in Dearborn? Called Double Olive. It's not bad. Have a pretty decent Martini selection, reasonable prices plus lotsa eye candy. Wednesdays and Thursdays are the best days to hang out. Too many d-bags on the weekends.
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    08/24/09

    @mr_dude: Prolly will include snorting lines of WD-40, getting lap dances of garage mechanics etc etc.
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    08/24/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: Dirty Lobsters?

    I dunno, man. You could get really sick from that.
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    08/24/09

    @Mad_Science: Dirty Martinis. Ummm..
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    08/24/09

    @Formerlythegreatestdriver: I have been to the Double Olive, used to live in Dearborn during my Ford days, but anymore for my money, the best dirty martini in Detroit comes from Cliff Bells. Half the flavor probably comes from the setting, but it's worth every penny.
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    Image of Turboner Turboner
    08/25/09

    @Mad_Science: The "dirty lobster" is my new favorite sexual position.
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    Image of SirNotAppearing SirNotAppearing
    08/24/09

    In reply to 2010 Mazdaspeed3: First Drive
    Hotter than say, the 5-door 2009 WRX? Inquiring mind(s) tiring of German engineering want to know.
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    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    08/24/09

    @SirNotAppearing II: Electric Boogaloo: They're really close, I'd need to drive the two together before making up my mine.
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    Image of SirNotAppearing SirNotAppearing
    08/24/09

    @Wes Siler: This calls for a C&D-style comparo! Feel free to not refer to it as such though.
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    08/24/09

    In reply to 2010 Mazdaspeed3: First Drive
    So this will be the best car to buy for the FF events in Forza 3. Is that what you're saying? Sounds like some nice, cheap power even if it goes to the wrong wheels.

    Someone at autocross swapped the cx7 awd into one of the last gens, too bad Mazda didn't do the same, even if it pushed the price closer to 25.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    08/24/09

    In reply to 2010 Mazdaspeed3: First Drive
    Every time I see one of these cars, my brain automatically dubs in the sound of Patrick from Spongebob Squarepants laughing incessantly.

    I don't care if it does 200 MPH and can take off vertically and fly you to work and back... if it looks so ridiculous that my brain conjures up Patrick the Starfish... it's not a car I can consider buying.
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    pauljones promoted this comment Deartháir II was starred Deartháir II was unstarred
    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    08/24/09

    @Deartháir II: The Return: I don't know Spongebob, you could just buy 1/4 of a body kit and fix the problem.
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    Image of NewbiusMaximus NewbiusMaximus
    08/24/09

    @Deartháir II: The Return: "Hey Spongebob, do you wanna go jellyfishin'?" At 22 years of age I still catch Spongebob when I can. And I can totally see Patrick's buck-teeth and laughter when I look at this car
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    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    08/24/09

    @Deartháir II The Return: If I had a dollar for every brain you dont have,I'd have one dollar.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    08/24/09

    @mr_dude: Or a ball-peen hammer. Regardless, I prefer to buy cars that DON'T need repairs before I even get them home.

    Oh, and Volkswagens.
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    08/24/09

    @Deartháir II: The Return: Laf! Cotd.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    08/24/09

    @NewbiusMaximus: Dude, I'm 30 with no kids, and I watched almost all of the Spongebob Squarepants marathon a few weeks ago. Do you realize what that means? I watched almost 12,000 diaper ads, and 284,518 ads for Fruit-By-The-Foot, just to watch more SpongeBob.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    08/24/09

    @Deartháir II: The Return: Only in Canada...
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    08/24/09

    @Deartháir II: The Return: So, you're getting the carbon fiber pipe, then?
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    Image of skitter skitter
    08/24/09

    @Deartháir II: The Return: This is why I cannot wait for cable sold by the show, and the opportunity to pay extra for no ads.
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