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    Elon Musk Smacks Down Eberhard, Predicts Tesla Profitability Next Month

    Tesla Co-Founder Eberhard Sues Elon Musk, Tesla

    Tesla Motors Is Not Worth One Half Of GM

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    Image of sos10 sos10
    06/22/09

    In reply to Elon Musk Smacks Down Eberhard, Predicts Tesla Profitability Next Month
    I hope he is right and can make it work. I don't understand the hate against Musk, It wasn't him who wrote "The international Jew" or something like that...
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    Image of mikedrawcar mikedrawcar
    06/22/09

    In reply to Elon Musk Smacks Down Eberhard, Predicts Tesla Profitability Next Month
    although this seems like the most competent response Mr. Musk has ever been able to produce, I'm curious as to how a reduction of $60k in production costs translates into asking for money from the govt., using inflated down payments for capital, etc.


    What say you, Senor Elon?

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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    06/22/09

    In reply to Elon Musk Smacks Down Eberhard, Predicts Tesla Profitability Next Month
    Why don't people hit each other anymore?


    Eberhard should knock him out.


    Hearing Perez Hilton got his eye blackened made my week. If Eberhard waits until next week, I'll be on a roll.

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    06/22/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: Knock him the fuck out. That's the way to do it.
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    06/22/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli:Who hit Perez Hilton, I need to know so I can send this wonderful person a fan letter.
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    06/22/09

    @Flathead Smith: The manager from the Black Eyed Peas. Perez claimed it was Will.I.Am, but it was their manager, Polo Molina.
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    06/22/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: Perez said violence isn't the answer. Polo said he knew that, but he got it wrong on purpose.
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    Image of Iron-Balls Minardi Iron-Balls Minardi
    06/22/09

    In reply to Elon Musk Smacks Down Eberhard, Predicts Tesla Profitability Next Month
    I think that either I or Mr. Musk needs a refresher on the defenition of profit.
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    06/22/09

    @Iron-Balls McGinty: As long as the CEO gets a paycheck, the company is profitable.
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    06/22/09

    In reply to Elon Musk Smacks Down Eberhard, Predicts Tesla Profitability Next Month
    They should just move their headquarters to Melrose Place...
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    06/22/09

    In reply to Elon Musk Smacks Down Eberhard, Predicts Tesla Profitability Next Month
    Next month:

    Tesla will have 100 million dollars in VaporProfit

    Top Gear will unveil 4 different Stigs.

    Max Mosley will continue his "interesting habits."
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    06/22/09

    @Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: You forgot the ritual incineration of a high-end sports car somewhere in Eastern Europe.
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    Image of .357 .357
    06/22/09

    @Tucker589: The Dacia Sandero?
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    06/22/09

    @Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: Naturally.
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    06/22/09

    @Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: Good news! It's available in yellow, now!
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    06/22/09

    @Tucker589: In other news...
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    Image of SeanKHotay SeanKHotay
    06/11/09

    In reply to Tesla Co-Founder Eberhard Sues Elon Musk, Tesla
    Better yet:


    "I'm shocked...SHOCKED!...that Tesla is being sued..."


    (I knew I was going to eff that up...)

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    06/11/09

    In reply to Tesla Co-Founder Eberhard Sues Elon Musk, Tesla
    I'm shocked...SHOCKED!...that Musk is being sued...
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    06/11/09

    In reply to Tesla Co-Founder Eberhard Sues Elon Musk, Tesla
    Judge: You have been found guilty by a jury of your peers of the crime(s) of diarrhea-of-the-mouth types of comments . You are hereby sentenced to die by the electric chair.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    06/11/09

    In reply to Tesla Co-Founder Eberhard Sues Elon Musk, Tesla
    Fights in start-ups are inevitable. They should start putting a section in the business plans covering this natural stage of development.
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    Image of .357 .357
    06/11/09

    In reply to Tesla Co-Founder Eberhard Sues Elon Musk, Tesla
    I guess Mr. Musk won't be sleeping on his couch anymore.
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    Image of smalleyxb122 smalleyxb122
    06/11/09

    In reply to Tesla Co-Founder Eberhard Sues Elon Musk, Tesla
    Having read the PDF (why? I have no idea) I can say that the far-reaching nature of the claims therein open the door for retaliatory legal recourse brought by Elon Musk.

    Some claims are baseless, and are discredited elsewhere in the document. The BOD severance agreement signed by Eberhard clearly states that the 250,000 shares of common stock are to be granted pending board approval.

    Other claims are chronologically dependent, and based on the claim brought forth by Eberhard, he initiated the breach of contract, specifically the anti-defamation stipulation of the separation agreement. Whether or not claims are valid has no bearing on whether or not they legally constitute derogatory and/or defamatory statements. And the dates specified indicate that his blog posting constitutes a breach of contract, thereby releasing Tesla Motors from further liability pertaining to further compensation as stipulated in the separation agreement signed by Eberhard.

    Elon Musk having a more favorable separation agreement with Paypal is irrelevant to the conditions set forth in Eberhard's separation agreement with Tesla Motors.

    Elon Musk my be liable for damages resulting from slander and/or libel, but is free from liability for defamatory and/or derogatory statements that can be proven factual, due to Eberhard's initial breach of the contract. Musk may be held liable for statements signifying Eberhard as the primary cause for Tesla's woes, due to an inherent inability to prove adequately such claims.

    Martin Eberhard can be due damages resulting from negligent misrepresentation of Musk pertaining to both Musk's falsely represented role as a founder of Tesla motors, and the willful omission of credit due to Martin Eberhard as a founder.

    Any statements pertaining to Musk's role as financier, or investor of Tesla Motors have no place in the claims brought forth by Eberhard, due to the validity of such claims.

    Musk's educational background is irrelevant as pertains to the claims. Eberhard has no claim to damages brought forth by these allegations. These allegations, as well as Musk's misrepresentation of himself as founder of Tesla Motors may be sufficient grounds for a criminal case of fraud, but the educational credentials have no bearing on any liability that Musk may have toward Eberhard.

    Musk does appear to be in violation of the written agreement pertaining to delivery of the second production Roadster, however the terms outlined relating to the value of said vehicle are purely speculative, and liability will likely be capped at the actual monetary value of the agreement, and will result in Eberhard having the option of returning the vehicle delivered in exchange for the return of the $100,000 paid.

    Is Elon Musk an asshole, and a fraud?

    Yes, and maybe.

    All I know for certain is that, while I feel for Martin Eberhard in all of this, this filing by his attorneys on his behalf doesn't have him smelling like a rose either.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    06/11/09

    In reply to Tesla Co-Founder Eberhard Sues Elon Musk, Tesla
    When this first came up I thought it was a death announcement for Elon Musk.


    Now I'm disappointed.


    I'm just not impressed with the Tesla. I do like the Fisker though, and I would definitely drive one.

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    Image of zeeboid zeeboid
    06/11/09

    In reply to Tesla Co-Founder Eberhard Sues Elon Musk, Tesla
    It could be worse.. their electric cars could be Obama-mandated, requireing us all to rest for 8 hours every 200 miles on a raod trip.
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    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    06/11/09

    @zeeboid: OK, you're really going to have to learn to spell or else I'm going to have to drop the banhammer -- and hard.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    05/22/09

    In reply to Tesla Motors Is Not Worth One Half Of GM
    Tesla has the same value as Duke Nukem Forever.
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    Image of Tyson Tyson
    05/22/09

    @Seta Velloso: Arguably its slightly higher. Tesla has only fired half their design team recently, not the entire design team.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    05/22/09

    @Tyson: Okay, I'll grant you that.


    @madcows - straight wankelin': Thaaaaat's right!

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