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    Chrysler Kills Diesel Engines For Dodge Ram 1500 Pickups
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    Image of sos10 sos10
    06/18/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills Diesel Engines For Dodge Ram 1500 Pickups
    Time for a Fiat Diesel, much more modern.
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    06/18/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills Diesel Engines For Dodge Ram 1500 Pickups
    There is (will, may?) a small, diesel truck coming: [www.mahindrana.com]

    It's not the best looking, but it is small, diesel powered, available in single or double cab with a 1.38ton payload and 2.5 ton towing capacity. They claim 30MPG on the highway. And, according to them they will be able to meet emission standards for all 50 states.
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    Image of GasGuzzler GasGuzzler
    06/18/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills Diesel Engines For Dodge Ram 1500 Pickups
    If this is aynthing like the small Duramax that was axed (and I'm betting it is), cost is the number one factor. All this emissions jazz and BS costs some serious coin. Estimates I've heard from some GM boys woudl have put the LD Dmax at nearly $10,000 -- an option many are not likely to take.


    Is LD diesel a good idea? Yes. But the unfortunate part is that the product planners didn't anticipate costs very well and our clown show government likes to change regulations on a "flavor of the week" basis.


    Thanks EPA.

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    06/18/09

    @GasGuzzler: CARB deserves more credit in this regard.
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    06/18/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills Diesel Engines For Dodge Ram 1500 Pickups
    PTMeyer84 is on target with this one, methinks.
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    06/18/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills Diesel Engines For Dodge Ram 1500 Pickups
    Hmm...what is arguably Dodge's most popular product, made less tractable by removing availability of what would certainly be a popular option. Lessee here...


    Chrysler continues to be run by mentally handicapped chimps.


    You incredibly moronic asshats! Make it a unique RPO - you want the diesel, make a special order and deliver when it's ready. Customer gets exactly what he wants, plus he feels it's a custom job (which it is, sorta), and you don't pay until you've got the customer's money to cover the bill for the engine. Is that so hard?


    Then Mr. McBudgetTrucker gets his Cummins, Cummins gets some business, Dodge gets more business, and all you suits get to keep your desk jobs. But nooooo...


    Will those MBAs help you get a job digging a ditch? You better hope so.

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    06/18/09

    @Elhigh: That was a great rant, and I like your logic.
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    06/18/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills Diesel Engines For Dodge Ram 1500 Pickups
    Hey, HORRIBLE NEWS! The DACIA SANDERO! IT'S DELAYED!!!
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    06/18/09

    @bmoreDLJ: oh no...[trails off]
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    06/18/09

    @bmoreDLJ: OH N0ES!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    06/18/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills Diesel Engines For Dodge Ram 1500 Pickups
    Sad news that makes it easier to stand pat with my current pickup indefinitely. Guess I'll spend some of that money on a lift kit and big meats so that I can expose my undercarriage to other motorists.
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    06/18/09

    @Alfisted: Make sure to dangle some glow in the dark truck nuts in their faces.
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    06/18/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills Diesel Engines For Dodge Ram 1500 Pickups
    Between vacation and going TDY at KSC I haven't been able to follow the travails of the Government 2, so forgive me if this is a stupid question. Didn't Chrysler exit bankruptcy when the sale to Fiat was completed last week? Or is the sale not technically complete and Chrysler is still technically in bankruptcy even though Rattner has already talked about how pleased he was that Chrysler exited bankruptcy so quick.


    Thank you in advance,


    Flummoxed in Florida

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    06/18/09

    @engineerd hates hydrogen leaks: You forgot the Dear, Abby
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    06/18/09

    @engineerd hates hydrogen leaks:


    WTF are you still doing in that god forsaken state son? And WTH is TDY?? You sure are going mad buddy. Need to be back in MI.

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    06/18/09

    @Formerlythegreatestdriver: After I got back from vacation, my boss came to me and asked how I liked FL because I was going back on a temporary duty assignment (TDY) at Kennedy Space Center.


    @TimTim: I know that, but why is this filing in bankruptcy court? Are they not technically out of bankruptcy yet? You're absolutely right that upon exiting bankruptcy Fiat will own something like 20%, creditors will get screwed with only 10%, and the government/UAW owning the rest.

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    06/18/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills Diesel Engines For Dodge Ram 1500 Pickups
    That's great. Now they can put the money from these into making a hybrid powertrain to power trucks that will use (gasp) more fuel than equivalent diesels would have. It's really the best decision in the end.
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    Image of WhoistheWalrus WhoistheWalrus
    06/18/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills Diesel Engines For Dodge Ram 1500 Pickups
    So... I don't get it. Maybe I'm just slow, but I can't see the reasoning behind this. Is there any actual reason that they're killing the diesel trucks?
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    06/18/09

    @WhoistheWalrus: Americans think diesels are dirty and gross and spew black smoke everywhere all the time, are horribly underpowered, and noisy.
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    06/18/09

    @Alphamazing:


    Well isn't that just great. You know, I've always wondered, the VW diesels everyone likes. Hell, everyone likes the German diesels, but as soon as you put it in a truck it becomes the "dirty, gross" fuel.

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    06/18/09

    @WhoistheWalrus: Automotive journalists like them. The VW dealership in my area has four on the lot that haven't moved since they got there.
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    06/18/09

    @pauljones: Small passenger car diesels ≠ light truck diesels.

    Questions?
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    06/18/09

    @DoctorNineVoltBatteriesNotIncl...: In reality, no, they certainly do not. In the perception of the American car buying public, yes, they frequently do.
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    06/18/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills Diesel Engines For Dodge Ram 1500 Pickups
    Do you suppose that Fiat has something from the Iveco parts bin that would work in it's stead?
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    06/18/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills Diesel Engines For Dodge Ram 1500 Pickups
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    06/18/09

    @ptmeyer84: Boy, this collapsing comment stuff is bullshit.
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    06/18/09

    @ptmeyer84: Mahindra Scorpio, fuck yeah.
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    06/18/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills Diesel Engines For Dodge Ram 1500 Pickups
    So, doesn't this mean that all of the Big 3 have slaughtered their light-duty diesel engines? It's making me feel all stabby.


    I mean, I probably won't be in the market for a pickup any time soon, but it'd make for an easier swap into a Challenger or something.

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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    06/18/09

    @My A Arm: Yep, all three have, at the very least, mothballed their half-ton diesel programs.
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    06/18/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills Diesel Engines For Dodge Ram 1500 Pickups
    Dear Toyota,


    The time is nigh to bring over the diesel Hilux.


    Regards,
    Alphamazing

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    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    06/18/09

    @Alphamazing: I approve of this petition.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    06/18/09

    @Alphamazing: Dear Ford,
    Dodge is abdicating a segment of the light duty truck market. If you have a large diesel Ranger waiting in the wings, or a diesel F-100, now's the time.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    06/18/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills Diesel Engines For Dodge Ram 1500 Pickups
    F*cking stupid.


    Next time keep your brilliant ideas to yourselves.


    C*ck


    teases.

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    06/18/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli:

    Fucking


    Cock

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    06/18/09

    @Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: Be a man about it.
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    06/18/09

    @Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: Real men don't f*ck c*ck. :p
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    06/18/09

    @Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: That was gold.
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    06/18/09

    @Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: I'm at work. Please forgive me.
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    06/18/09

    @Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: Hey! This is a family site! Watch your mouth! Shame on you! >:(


    Fucking inconsiderate piece of shit... What the Goddamn fucking hell are you thinking...?

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    06/18/09

    @Scandinavian Flick is hooning the star!: I'm thinking about a place with tangerine trees and marmalade skies.
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    06/18/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: I forgive you once, but only once motherfucker.
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    06/18/09

    @Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: And the girl with kaleidescope eyes...
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    06/18/09

    @pauljones: Cellophane flowers of yellow and green... Wow, this is turning into Triplopnik.
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    06/18/09

    @Scandinavian Flick is hooning the star!: There's kids and shit!
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    06/18/09

    @averyrm: Well, if the little fuckers want to get anywhere in life, they need to know how to handle some fucking English. Can't be little bitches all their lives'.
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    06/18/09

    @Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer:


    Look for the girl with the sun in her eyes and your gone...


    *dun* *dun* *dun*


    Lucy in the sky with diamonds...

    Lucy in the sky with diamonds...

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    06/18/09

    @pauljones: Follow her down to a bridge by a fountain, where rocking house people eat marshmallow pies...
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    06/18/09

    @1dollar93: The only thing I've NEVER seen on the internet is a dick fuck another dick...
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    @GV_Goat:
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