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    Midtown Manhattan Muscle Car Rental Wars Heat Up!

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    Image of dolo54 blows minds and blows engines! dolo54 blows minds and blows engines!
    08/26/09

    In reply to Midtown Manhattan Muscle Car Rental Wars Heat Up!
    what? I rented a v6 convertible 2006 stang for $90/day including insurance. that seems a bit high...
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    Image of Nick4207 Nick4207
    08/26/09

    In reply to Midtown Manhattan Muscle Car Rental Wars Heat Up!

    Avis and Budget are owned by AvisBudget Group and utilize a common fleet of cars. Heres what I have on my Avis lot right now in TX :) I need to work on getting a Challenger.
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    08/26/09

    In reply to Midtown Manhattan Muscle Car Rental Wars Heat Up!
    You know, for $725, you could probably wander down to your nearest Ford dealer and get yourself into a Ranger - although, you should bump that to $800 for the V6. It should deliver enough of the Mustang driving experience, and you won't have to turn it back in at the end of the weekend.

    I really should have looked into that option when Air Canada cancelled my flight home from New York, since no one had any rental cars available anyways.
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    08/26/09

    @Maymar may have abused the approve comment button: Canada has an airline?
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    08/26/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: It's a bunch of lawn chairs hanging from a flock of Canadian geese. They've also hired Bob and Doug MacKenzie as in flight entertainment, instead of an in-flight movie.
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    08/26/09


    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: You better watch out man! They don't mess around.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    08/26/09

    @Maymar may have abused the approve comment button: I just watched that movie again last month.
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    08/26/09

    @Formerlythegreatestdriver: Yeah, that's Air Canada's cotomer sevis department. It's almost as no good as Jalopnik's.

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: I haven't seen it in a couple years (although I listened to their song Take Off relatively recently), I still occationally see the cases of Red Cap stubbies celebrating their 2-4 anniversary.
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    Image of SeanKHotay SeanKHotay
    08/26/09

    In reply to Midtown Manhattan Muscle Car Rental Wars Heat Up!
    Midtown Manhattan Muscle Car Rental Wars Heat Up!

    ...while the Midtown Manhattan escort rental wars still bring a certain cold, emptiness afterwards...
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    08/26/09

    In reply to Midtown Manhattan Muscle Car Rental Wars Heat Up!

    In NYC, there is an exotic car rental company with Lamborghinis, Ferraris, Maseratis, etc, in its fleet. In 2006, they had a Ford GT for rent. The figures were:

    Half day (12 hrs) $995.
    Full day (24 hrs) $1450.
    Weekly (+1 free day) $7450.

    All daily rentals included 100 miles/day. Weekly rentals included 500 miles/week. Additional mileage billed at $1.95/mile.

    That's a used rental company car that I would gladly buy.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    08/26/09

    @skaycog-live,love,drink!: Why do you tease me so?
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    08/26/09

    @skaycog-live,love,drink!: You probably have to be 60yrs old and have a million in your bank before they let you near one.
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    08/26/09

    @engineard: Because you are so easy...*she said*. I always know you enjoy the GT stuff. When I get into something, I do it with my whole being. This is one of those 'things'.
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    08/26/09

    @Formerlythegreatestdriver: That would probably be a good idea. I wonder what the rental company's insurance rates are on these exotics.
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    Image of Wunno Sev Wunno Sev
    08/26/09

    @skaycog-live,love,drink!: Is this the Classic Car Club at the end of Broome St?

    I wandered in there one day after spending months staring through the window every time I passed. They were very polite but it was clear that I was not going to be getting in any of those cars anytime soon.
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    skaycog-live,love,drink! promoted this comment Wunno Sev was starred Wunno Sev was unstarred
    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    08/26/09

    @Wunno Sev: Hi! I really don't know. I just did a image search, and this came up.
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    Image of Wunno Sev Wunno Sev
    08/26/09

    @skaycog-live,love,drink!: But I mean, like, are you referring to the same rental company.

    'Cause that club I mentioned had a Ford GT as recently as this spring. The cool bit about it is that it's not just, like, big men smoking cigars and wearing sunglasses kind of cool cars, they have actual classic cars, too. Exempli gratia: they have a Porsche 356 Speedster and a Ferrari 308 GTS sitting alongside a Tesla Roadster and an M-B E55 AMG.
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    08/26/09

    @skaycog-live,love,have fun!: Want a Rolls Royce Phantom with chauffeur in NYC? How about a wallet busting $450/hour.

    Lambo Gallardo Spider
    Days - $1,450
    Fri-Sun - $1,740
    Weekly - $7,150

    Lambo LP640 Roadster
    Days - $2,450
    Fri-Sun - $2,940
    Weekly - $11,400

    The above reflect a 20% discount

    OUCH!
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    skaycog-live,love,have fun! promoted this comment BlueBomb was starred BlueBomb was unstarred
    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    08/27/09

    @Wunno Sev: The Ford GT photo is not of the rental company. It was a random search photo. The prices are from an actual NYC car rental company from 2006 (Gotham Dream Cars).
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    Edited by skaycog was here at 08/27/09 8:15 AM skaycog was here was starred skaycog was here was unstarred
    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    08/27/09

    @BlueBomb: I can't imagine having that kind of money. OUCH is right!
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    08/26/09

    In reply to Midtown Manhattan Muscle Car Rental Wars Heat Up!
    We need Paul Harvey to tell us the rest of the story. I imagine it goes something like this:

    Vehicle Rental: $150/day x 2 days = $300
    Insurance (mandatory in NYC): $25/day x 2 days = $50
    NY State Tax: $100
    NYC Tax: $150
    Tourism & Hooker Tax: $100
    Fuel Surcharge: $25
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    Image of Tiberiuswise is all ate up with sarcasm Tiberiuswise is all ate up with sarcasm
    08/26/09

    @engineerd:
    Hooker tax? Is nothing sacred?
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    Maymar may have abused the approve comment button promoted this comment Tiberiuswise is all ate up with sarcasm was starred Tiberiuswise is all ate up with sarcasm was unstarred
    Image of Maymar Maymar
    08/26/09

    @Tiberiuswise: Disposal costs money, man. They're looking into setting up a dead hooker disposal depot though.
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    Image of Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe) Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe)
    08/26/09

    In reply to Midtown Manhattan Muscle Car Rental Wars Heat Up!
    Many moons ago, when I was a college senior interviewing for jobs, I took a trip to the greater Los Angeles area to interview with Toyota.

    Since I was a poor college student, Toyota set up all of the flights and rental cars for me. So I was a bit surprised when I arrived at the rental car counter and found that they didn't have any Toyotas in their fleet. Instead, they put me in a hard-top Mustang.

    I did my interview at Toyota and had some time to kill, so me and the Mustang took a trip up the Pacific Coast Highway and stopped in at a very Lebowski-esque bowling alley before heading back to LAX.

    Good times...
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    08/26/09

    @racin_g73: So did you ever get that job at Toyota. You can't just leave the end hanging around...
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    Image of Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe) Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe)
    08/26/09

    @Formerlythegreatestdriver: Nah, I ended up taking a job with a 3PL (third party logistics company) who did a ton of automotive work. Instead of just seeing the insides of Toyota factories, I got to work on projects for Ford, Mitsubishi, Chrylser, GM, John Deere, Polaris, Nissan ... I probably missed a few in there.

    After a few years away from the auto industry, I ended up returning to work directly for one of the big commercial truck manufacturers (competitor of Volvo/Mack, Paccar, et al.)

    Sorry to leave you hanging, and sorry if the ending disappoints.
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    Image of superbadd75, now I remember why I left... superbadd75, now I remember why I left...
    08/26/09

    In reply to Midtown Manhattan Muscle Car Rental Wars Heat Up!
    That sounds like such a rip for $725! I pay half that a month for our 2009 V6/5M car, and we'll own it in a few years! Now if we're talking about a GT500 and their insurance, it might be worth it for a nice weekend of tire-shredding hoonage. Or a Johhny Knoxville "a dog jumped out in front of me" story.
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    Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable promoted this comment superbadd75, now I remember why I left... was starred superbadd75, now I remember why I left... was unstarred
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    08/26/09

    @Bartender, make mine a double.: Heh- my all-time favorite Jackass moment.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    08/26/09

    In reply to Midtown Manhattan Muscle Car Rental Wars Heat Up!
    Me: I'd like to rent a Mustang

    Budget Guy: Today's your lucky day, we have one in back.

    Me: Wow- and Oh My God- it's in doo-doo brown. I am so lucky.
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    08/26/09

    In reply to Midtown Manhattan Muscle Car Rental Wars Heat Up!
    For $725 I feel inclined to take the full insurance and just not ever hit the brakes.
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    Image of stoke stoke
    08/26/09

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    Awesome. Rental V6 muscle cars.

    I had a six-cylinder 2006 Mustang rental last year. It was one of the worst cars I've ever driven, and this is from someone who learned to drive on a pink Toyota Avalon.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    08/26/09

    @stoke has a JDM front wing: What do you do? Sell Mary Kay?
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    Image of Ash78, tryptophanatic Ash78, tryptophanatic
    08/26/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: Human trafficking makes ends meet. Don't knock it.

    /srsly, same question
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    Image of stoke stoke
    08/26/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: Perfectly legitimate question.

    Actually, it was my mother's car, and as for the color, early Avalons were available in a hue called Vintage Rose Metallic. It had the interesting characteristic of looking like champagne silver in sunshine (say, on a dealer lot) but when you bought it, got it home and saw it in your garage or on a cloudy day, it would magically turn a lavender pink color.

    This is why I am afraid to own cars that aren't black or white. I'm scared they'll turn into vaguely similar but exponentially more horrid colors as soon as plates are screwed on.
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    08/26/09

    @stoke has a JDM front wing: What was your issue with the Mustang? Just saying, "It was one of the worst cars I've ever driven..." is a pretty harsh statement and deserves some explanation. Also, what was the odo reading on the Mustang? Being an '06 it was probably pretty beat up. A 30,000 mile rental is like a 100,000 mile car to most of us.

    I'm just curious. Hopefully this doesn't come off as too douchy.
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    Image of Jeb_Hoge Jeb_Hoge
    08/26/09

    @engineerd: I have to agree with his assessment. I had a V6 Mustang rental a couple of years ago too (probably an '06) and was disappointed that I didn't get the Taurus next to it. The center console and door trim both were uncomfortable to lean my knees against, the steering wheel spokes hurt my thumbs (I swear I'm not whining), the power steering seemed to partially fail in right-handers, and it just wasn't a very engaging car. I tried to give it a chance on the backroads where I learned to drive in my Integra, but it wasn't fun. Interestingly, with the 2010 Mustang, every one of my complaints about the interior no longer apply. All of those corners or edges that caught me wrong have been recontoured.
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    Edited by Jeb_Hoge at 08/26/09 9:57 AM Jeb_Hoge was starred Jeb_Hoge was unstarred
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    08/26/09

    @stoke has a JDM front wing: I learned to drive in a manual transmission pink Plymouth Reliant (my mom's). It was pink in much the same way as the Avalon that you describe. The factory color was "Light Metallic Rosewood", but in the right light, it bore a distinctive pinkish tint, so around the house it was always known as the pink Plymouth.
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    08/26/09

    @engineerd: You're absolutely right. The thing had like 46,000 miles on it and something was very, very wrong with the right rear hub. As in, the lugs were fully torqued but there was visible wheel wobble on the highway.

    I'm not commenting on the quality of the Mustang in general-- simply pointing out that rental muscle cars are not terribly exciting, because they always end up being thrashed into the ground.

    However, that said, I wasn't impressed with the engine or interior either. Overall it seemed a bit crude.
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    08/26/09

    @Ash78: It only makes ends meet because they pack them in so tight.
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    08/26/09

    @stoke has a JDM front wing & @Jeb_Hoge: I'll agree that rental Mustangs aren't going to be the best examples. They generally are thrashed more than a rental Camry, and will have a lot more wear at relatively low miles.

    As far as the interior, I agree that it can be a little rough. The useless map pocket in the door hits the side of my knee in just the wrong way.

    As far as the engine, it's the 4.0L V6 used in the Ranger and Exploder. It's not particularly rev-happy, but it's torquey and when properly exploited can be fun.

    The bottom line with the V6 S197 is that it's a budget pony car. It's not going to be refined, it's missing some of the suspension components of the GT (front sway bar, etc.) and the engine is from a truck. If you don't expect too much from it, it can be a hell of a ride. Don't knock all of them because your rental sucked!
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    08/26/09

    @engineerd: I didn't mean to disparage all Mustangs, just the bargain-basement rentals that Hertz and Avis, etc. like to pass off as "sporty." It's kind of a crock because they're so beat to hell and stripped of all niceties (like swaybars).

    I think Jalopnik should do a "Top 10 Fun-to-Drive Rental Cars" list, so I know what to book on my next vacation.
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    Image of dolo54 blows minds and blows engines! dolo54 blows minds and blows engines!
    08/26/09

    @stoke has a JDM front wing: I rented a convertible stang and drove it up the PCH in CA a few years back. It only had about 2k miles on it, and while the handling was vague, to say the least, I rather enjoyed it. When I got back home to my Integra it was like getting into a laser guided missile comparatively, but the stang was pretty cool in its own way. I did do a bunch of donuts with the TC off. That was fun.
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    08/26/09

    In reply to Midtown Manhattan Muscle Car Rental Wars Heat Up!
    $725 for the weekend? Kids, let this be a lesson to you: don't ever rent a car in New York City. In fact, just avoid NYC period.

    And, oh yeah, Budget sucks. I've yet to have a car from them that wasn't filthy. Although I guess that's better than all the Hertz cars the all smelled like smoke, save for one, which smelled like fish.
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    08/26/09

    In reply to Midtown Manhattan Muscle Car Rental Wars Heat Up!
    Ford Mustang: Always the budget pony car.
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    08/26/09

    In reply to Midtown Manhattan Muscle Car Rental Wars Heat Up!
    $725!! Yikes!

    p.s: No Challenger love? Maybe Enterprise can take it up?
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    08/26/09

    In reply to Midtown Manhattan Muscle Car Rental Wars Heat Up!
    Your budget will go fast at Budget.
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