Okay, but only if the body matches the engine-turned dash.
Seriously-impossible to over-do engine turning. Charles Lindbergh might have been an anti-semite isolationist, but he knew that he only had one chance to make a first impression when he touched down in Paris, so he demanded-what else-engine turning!
The minute appliances are available in engine-turned stainless, I'm getting a new kitchen. End of story.
I thought Noble went bust... no, Wikipedia says they just stopped making cars while Lee Noble comes up with future designs that may never be built. What happened to the workforce? What happened to people who put down deposits on the M14 and M15?
Meanwhile Tesla gets urinated on while shipping substantial numbers of actual cars to actual customers.
"The M600 lacks ESP or anti-lock brakes and like all Noble cars, it has the ability to turn traction control all the way off, again showing Noble's determination to build their models as a pure driver killer."
I see an Audi R8 from pic 1, a Porsche 911 from pic 2, a McLaren F1/ Koenigsegg from pic 3, a Buggati Veyron/ Lotus Elise from pic 4. I guess the Chinese are setting the trend now.
@skaycog misses lost friends: Assuming you have good credit and can actually pry a low-interest loan out of a bank these days, approximately 92.5 years.
How do I come to that conclusion?
As a rough estimate, you can expect that for every ten thousand dollars, the monthly payment increases approximately $200. So, in a standard, 5-year payment cycle, the monthly payment on a $10,000 car would be in the vicinity of $200 (I think it would actually be about $180, but the sake of simplifying the math, I'm rounding to $200).
So, going by the rough estimations laid out above, a monthly payment of $350 would be about the equivalent of an $18,000 car. How many times does 18,000 go in to 332,000? About 18.5 times.
So then, we take the standard five years necessary to pay of an $18,000 car with a monthly payment of $350, and multiply it by 18.5, and we get roughly 92.5 years in Pauljones bullshit math.
@maximum-sienna: That's far too traditional (and thusly simple) a method.
I always used to piss off my math teachers in high school by spending so much time on a problem trying to figure out other odd ways that I could reason it out and solve it. They would always look at me in exasperation and ask me why I couldn't just do it the way they showed the class and be done with it. My response was that it wasn't any fun that way.
It also probably explains why I failed out of Calc II. It wasn't that I couldn't do the math, it's that I spent way too much time tinkering with attempts at alternative solutions to problems on tests, which isn't a good thing when tests are timed.
Oh well. It killed my future as an aerospace engineer, but at least it kept me amused in otherwise boring classes.
3 horsepower settings based on need? This is supposed to be a frickin supercar right? If I get into my wacky-fast supercar in the morning, what are the chances I'm going to decide I need less power? Or is the 650HP setting reserved for when you're being chased by terrorists?
@HammSammich: How many supercars have you driven? Sure, everyone likes to think they would hop right in like it's a game of need for speed... but truth be told, unless your a complete idiot, or you have no respect for cars at all... it isn't quite that easy. Cars like this are intimidating. One wrong flinch of your big toe could put you into the ditch.
I like the idea of power settings... if anything, just for a little warm up as I put out of the neighborhood and towards real streets. Then once I'm out of the no wake zone... I can just flip that little switch.
@tek_nic: Exactly. I just spent a couple hours on a state highway in a 400-horse AMG machine in heavy rain. It's pretty genteel, but your right foot always feels like it's an inch away from certain doom in the turns.
@tek_nic: Fair enough. I've only driven one "real" supercar, and I can certainly agree with the notion that they are intimidating - even in a controlled "on-track" setting. I'll concede that, particularly in poor weather conditions as Ash noted, having the ability to limit the torque and horsepower would be useful.
I was attempting, unsuccesfully, to make a joke about the use of the phrase, "based on need," here. Realistically, when are you going to "need" the power this car provides, even at it's lowest setting - apart from the track. These cars are essentially about enjoying their near-absurd performance. Clearly, you can have too much of a good thing and the enjoyment you experience can be overshadowed by the challange of too much power for a given situation. That was a reality I was purposefully overlooking, for comedic effect, and it failed. Rest assured, I'll give myself a bad grade for the comment.
@HammSammich: A super car with different settings to handle all of an owner's super needs, from rain-slicked roads to the Nurburgring.
@tek_nic: Having had the opportunity to drive a pre-production Saleen S7, I can wholeheartedly back up your statement. That car scared the living hell out of me, and probably contributed to my distaste for "super cars" in general.
A simple Camaro SS or Mustang GT has enough power for me to kill myself if I'm stupid. I don't need any more than that.
@pauljones: I was a valet a parker for a certain unnamed 5 star/diamond resort in Colorado... (doh! said too much) I drove MANY MANY supercars... and it really burst my dream bubble that these cars would be like some holy grail. Sure, they are awesome... and when someone blips the throttle of a Ferrari, I need to change pants. But at the end of the day, the exclusivity of them makes them almost un-enjoyable. I had waaaay more fun in a 911 from yesteryear than I did in cars like mclaren, ferrari, or even the occasional nobel. And I've had even more fun in a stripped miata. It just puts things in perspective, that's all.
@HammSammich: But think about the little tricks you could play. Line up with a saleen 'stang, and let her rip on the 450 setting, and they win. You act sad and ask for a rematch, and blow them out of the water. Awesome.
@WhoistheWalrus: I would hope that the guy in the Saleen Stang would know better than to try a race with $300k Mid-Engined Super car, but I like where you're going.
If the switch is not entirely obvious, it would be fun to put it on the low setting at the track and let a buddy take it for a few laps. Flip the switch before your runs, and amaze him at your ability to crush his time results...
@tek_nic: Okay so given your lineup of McLaren, Ferrari, and Nobel, maybe I haven't driven a supercar. The Ford GT I drove was fairly tame when you weren't heavy footed - and I found it easier to drive around the track than the 911 I drove back to back.
@HammSammich: If that sounded like I was tooting my own horn, sorry. More than anything I was trying to say that real driving bliss can be had with the most unsuspecting cars. Case and point... LeMons. Those drivers have tons of fun in one weekend... even more fun than the typical ferrari owner EVER gets from his red sled over 10 years of ownership. As long as we aren't counting romantic encounters with gold digging women as fun, this statement is truth.
If I want to see how close I can get a car's ass to the guardrails while sliding down highway 24... I would much rather do it in something like a miata than spyder.
@tek_nic: Agreed. Since I'm not a formula one driver/moto gp rider, I have found that it is generally more fun to push a sensible car or motorcycle to its limits than to try and restrain a vehicle with performance that greatly exceeds my limits.
@tek_nic: "I was a valet a parker for a certain unnamed 5 star/diamond resort in Colorado... (doh! said too much) I drove MANY MANY supercars" That's not driving supercars,that's just parking them,trust me on this one from experiance,supercars are epic to drive & Noble are known to make some of the best handling cars in the world
@layabout: Haha. Obviously you don't use valet parking. It was extremely rare that I just parked cars all night. I know there's a big difference between driving and parking... I did both. If you want a great set of roads to do stupid things on... just take a look at the area below cheyenne mountain. (conveniently located right next to where I was a valet) very few cops, tons of twisty roads, and the hills really help make sure that someone standing outside at the hotel doesn't hear me over in the next valley.
My valet resume said something like: good driving record, good personal skills. I didn't mention my SCCA participation.
Noble always reminds me their are way more cars that I want than I could ever have. I have been smitten with these cars since I saw an M400 speeding around a track.
Looks pretty good, in a generic supercar kind of way. Which is a huge compliment compared to other Nobles. Handsome and nothing out of place. Plenty of references to other cars, but it all fits well.
I'm terribly concerned about the apparent lack of cupholders. Maybe they're undergoing nanofabrication or wind tunnel testing, and will be installed by riding mechanics to your specifications, in a ceremony at Silverstone as you take possession of your new bolide.
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Looks kind of like a Ferrari huh?
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Set it to 650HP and break the switch off.
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Okay, but only if the body matches the engine-turned dash.
Seriously-impossible to over-do engine turning. Charles Lindbergh might have been an anti-semite isolationist, but he knew that he only had one chance to make a first impression when he touched down in Paris, so he demanded-what else-engine turning!
The minute appliances are available in engine-turned stainless, I'm getting a new kitchen. End of story.
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Meanwhile Tesla gets urinated on while shipping substantial numbers of actual cars to actual customers.
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Corrected.
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How do I come to that conclusion?
As a rough estimate, you can expect that for every ten thousand dollars, the monthly payment increases approximately $200. So, in a standard, 5-year payment cycle, the monthly payment on a $10,000 car would be in the vicinity of $200 (I think it would actually be about $180, but the sake of simplifying the math, I'm rounding to $200).
So, going by the rough estimations laid out above, a monthly payment of $350 would be about the equivalent of an $18,000 car. How many times does 18,000 go in to 332,000? About 18.5 times.
So then, we take the standard five years necessary to pay of an $18,000 car with a monthly payment of $350, and multiply it by 18.5, and we get roughly 92.5 years in Pauljones bullshit math.
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=PMT(Rate,#_of_payments,Present_Value)
=PMT(0.059,700,331000) (5.9% rate, 700 month loan, $331,000)
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I always used to piss off my math teachers in high school by spending so much time on a problem trying to figure out other odd ways that I could reason it out and solve it. They would always look at me in exasperation and ask me why I couldn't just do it the way they showed the class and be done with it. My response was that it wasn't any fun that way.
It also probably explains why I failed out of Calc II. It wasn't that I couldn't do the math, it's that I spent way too much time tinkering with attempts at alternative solutions to problems on tests, which isn't a good thing when tests are timed.
Oh well. It killed my future as an aerospace engineer, but at least it kept me amused in otherwise boring classes.
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Huh? Thanks to pauljones BS math, you say? I do know about BS. Maybe I better up my monthly payments to $355.
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I like the idea of power settings... if anything, just for a little warm up as I put out of the neighborhood and towards real streets. Then once I'm out of the no wake zone... I can just flip that little switch.
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I was attempting, unsuccesfully, to make a joke about the use of the phrase, "based on need," here. Realistically, when are you going to "need" the power this car provides, even at it's lowest setting - apart from the track. These cars are essentially about enjoying their near-absurd performance. Clearly, you can have too much of a good thing and the enjoyment you experience can be overshadowed by the challange of too much power for a given situation. That was a reality I was purposefully overlooking, for comedic effect, and it failed. Rest assured, I'll give myself a bad grade for the comment.
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@tek_nic: Having had the opportunity to drive a pre-production Saleen S7, I can wholeheartedly back up your statement. That car scared the living hell out of me, and probably contributed to my distaste for "super cars" in general.
A simple Camaro SS or Mustang GT has enough power for me to kill myself if I'm stupid. I don't need any more than that.
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If the switch is not entirely obvious, it would be fun to put it on the low setting at the track and let a buddy take it for a few laps. Flip the switch before your runs, and amaze him at your ability to crush his time results...
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If I want to see how close I can get a car's ass to the guardrails while sliding down highway 24... I would much rather do it in something like a miata than spyder.
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My valet resume said something like: good driving record, good personal skills. I didn't mention my SCCA participation.
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I'm terribly concerned about the apparent lack of cupholders. Maybe they're undergoing nanofabrication or wind tunnel testing, and will be installed by riding mechanics to your specifications, in a ceremony at Silverstone as you take possession of your new bolide.
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