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quayzar
10/17/09

In reply to On-board a BMW M1 in HD
That car is the dog's bollocks. BMW's design team needs to spend some time looking at this. #bmwm1
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Peter Orosz
10/16/09

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As if I needed showing that straight sixes make the most beautiful sound! This is gorgeous stuff. #bmwm1
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HoonThatFerrari
10/15/09

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I like how he passed the Porsche at 3:50 to 3:58... watch that whole sequence there in that time-frame and you can tell he knew EXACTLY what was going to happen in advance... he automatically knew the guy was going to end up wide, and he took the appropriate track in order to be able to get by him on the inside with no issues at all whatsoever... great driving. Thanks for the clip! #bmwm1
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1300ccsoffury
10/15/09

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HEEL AND TOE! HEEL AND TOE MOTHERFUCKER!!! #bmwm1
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Mobius
10/15/09

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Ultimate. Driving. Machine. #bmwm1
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HoonThatFerrari
10/15/09

@Mobius: Yes, but for some reason those of us who drive them are automatically dicks, aren't we? #bmwm1
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Vroomtrap
10/15/09

@HoonThatFerrari - Once Again w/Star - Always on the Edge, Baby!: It appears so. #bmwm1
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HoonThatFerrari
10/16/09

@Vroomtrap: In that case, now I must race you, for that is what a true Cock would do.... name your weapon & venue!
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skierpage
09/30/09

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The front is nice, but without the crazy see-through doors and layered rear of the EfficientDynamics, it runs out of a steam and falls back to ye olde flame surfacing.
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area_educator
09/30/09

@skierpage: And the colors. The color scheme of the ED is lovely.
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bboothy
09/29/09

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I applaud this push to integrate new efficient drivetrains throughout the model range. Sequestering hybrids to a single model has smugged up the whole concept and prevented widespread adaption of the technology. I think implementing this stuff in the halo models and letting it trickle down is a great idea.

ALSO who is to say that this won't be a competent performer in every sense of the word? BMW used to squeeze 1000 HP out of M10 block (4-cyl) in the 3.0 and M1 LeMans cars. Boo hoo i want an extra 7 cylinders and 300 pounds of engine to shave .3 seconds off my 0-60.

I am ready for my idea of performance to be redefined to include efficiency (esp aerodynamic)
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jodark
09/29/09

@bboothy: Get thou behind me Satan.

"performance to be redefined to include efficiency" Thats great. I'm glad you're ready. I be you're also ready for these concepts as well "Lies are truth, Freedom is slavery." I'm sick of having my leg pissed on and being told its raining.

"esp aerodynamic"
Aerodymanic performance comes by adding drag to put down-force on the car to make it more stable. Not to make it slip through the air like a wet spaghetti noodle.
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jbownsabmw- Koopas Beware
09/29/09

@bboothy: The problem is it simply isn't the halo line with the stated performance. You can see my post below, but I think the biggest problem is using the M1 name.

I had a picture of an M1 on my wall growing up and this feels like BMW is personally slapping me in the face and saying, "F*&k you and your loyalty. We don't need you."
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Alexander Card
09/29/09

@bboothy: your statement is 333hp per liter when in fact it was a 1.5L engine with 1500hp in qualifying trim or 1000hp per liter - for this disregard of enhanced awesomeness I put your man card on probation
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GreenN_Gold
09/29/09

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So they're not worried about reserving the M1 label for the "M" model 1-series? I guess they're not planning on making one.
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ThreeLitre
09/29/09

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Can I add that besides the whole, erm, powertrain problem that this just looks wrong. What happened to this: [www.netcarshow.com]

?????
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discontinuuity has left the Jalop until further notice
09/29/09

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WTF BMW. Go ahead and build this thing, but please don't call it an M1.
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ThreeLitre
09/29/09

@discontinuuity is happy that everything has been set right in the Jalopverse. Now all we need is more of engineerd's Brefas Scotch!: A-fucking-men. What a crock.

Why can't we just have a simple supercar with a jacked up version of their twin turbo 3 liter sixer?
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jbownsabmw- Koopas Beware
09/29/09

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I am an avid BMW fan. I have looked the other way for the past decade as their cars have gotten heavy, complicated and, uh, 'funny looking.' I have made excuses as the M division slowly stopped building race-inspired sports cars and started building sporty grand tourers. I have forgiven them this because, in my opinion, they still build the most driver focused cars. Also, how can I fault a company for softening their cars to make more money?

I drive a 135i, which is a good car. I have driven a 135i with stiffer, linear rate springs and about -1.5 deg of camber in the front, and it was an amazing car. Though this would not have cost BMW any more money to set up at the factory, a neutral car can get people into trouble so I can't fault them for erring on the side of safety.

This M1 pictured above, however, is completely inexcusable. It must weigh less than 3,000 lbs and have a high revving straight six singing that glorious tune right behind the drivers head. Anything else is such a colossal failure that it will shake my faith in the company.

I am not saying the car above doesn't have a place in the BMW line up, but call it something else and bring a proper M1 to market along side it.
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cyclopticgaze
09/29/09

@jbownsabmw- Koopas Beware: Amen.
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ThreeLitre
09/29/09

@jbownsabmw- Koopas Beware: Well said, sir. I am going to the BMWCCA event this week. If I see this there sitting next to a real M1, things might get ugly.
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snapoversteer 'bout to get told
09/29/09

@jbownsabmw- Koopas Beware: Well said. I'm a former BMW fan mostly for the reasons you state (with the addition of HATING their reliability problems). I used to like just about everything they made, and now the M3 is the only BMW that even turns my head.
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jbownsabmw- Koopas Beware
09/29/09

@ThreeLitre: Hmm, this is what jealousy feels like. I am taking my car to the track in mid October, though this will probably increase the desire for $3k+ in suspension mods.
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ThreeLitre
09/29/09

@jbownsabmw- Koopas Beware: Nope that's definitely a 3-grand investment waiting to happen. Foregone conclusion, man.
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damnelantra™
09/29/09

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at this point, why bother with the side windows at all?
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KillerPM
09/29/09

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This is not what I would like to see in a new M1. The M1 should be a BMW super car that is mid engined and able to compete with the likes of Ferrari and Lamborghini. I want to see it have a 600-700 HP mid engined 10 cylinder turbo charged engine.. Now that would be a M1.
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snapoversteer 'bout to get told
09/29/09

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Why do I want a plug in "supercar" that looks like a Camaro?
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engineerd
09/29/09

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You could park this in the Hybrid Only spots at M: the Hotel and watch the greenie's heads asplode.
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