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    NYT: Christian License Plate Banned By District Court

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    02:34 AM

    In reply to New ‘Empire Gold’ New York License Plates A Car Owner Shakedown
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    02:36 AM

    In AZ, if you can find a plate (on E-Bay, for example), from the original model year of your vehicle that isn't being used on some current plate, you can register that without even paying the extra $25 for a personalized/historic plate. $22.50 for a year with this one on my '69 Volvo 145.
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    Image of HurtsSoGood HurtsSoGood
    11/11/09

    In reply to New ‘Empire Gold’ New York License Plates A Car Owner Shakedown
    1. Conspicuously absent is the red white and blue Statue of Liberty plate of the 80s and 90s.

    2. $25? That's a shakedown? Are you fucking shitting me? In South Carolina, you pay property tax on cars, and it's a LOT more than New York motorists pay in registration fees and such. New Yorkers have no reason whatsoever to bitch. If anything, they should be glad to be getting rid of those godawful blue and white plates. #licenseplates
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    11/11/09

    In reply to NYT: Christian License Plate Banned By District Court

    Desoto. Where religion meets cars. Properly. #licenseplates
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    11/11/09

    In reply to NYT: Christian License Plate Banned By District Court

      #licenseplates
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    11/11/09

    In reply to NYT: Christian License Plate Banned By District Court

    Here's where religion + cars go together. #licenseplates
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    11/11/09

    In reply to NYT: Christian License Plate Banned By District Court

    Here's where car + religion makes sense. #licenseplates
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/11/09

    In reply to New ‘Empire Gold’ New York License Plates A Car Owner Shakedown
    I do not approve. Those are Alaskan plate colors. Just doesn't look right. #licenseplates
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    11/11/09

    In reply to New ‘Empire Gold’ New York License Plates A Car Owner Shakedown
    I don't want to hold up California as a model of, well, anything but at least here you get a plate and it stays the life of the car. They just issue a highly visible sticker that tells the cops what month and year the registration expires. #licenseplates
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    11/11/09

    In reply to NYT: Christian License Plate Banned By District Court
    I'm with Brother Sam, LOL.

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    Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn
    11/11/09

    In reply to NYT: Christian License Plate Banned By District Court
    Illinois cancelled a promenent non-beliver's plates that read 'ATHEIST', yet issue plates that say 'JESUS'. #licenseplates
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    Image of MaWeiTao MaWeiTao
    11/11/09

    In reply to NYT: Christian License Plate Banned By District Court
    Frankly, I think all extraneous crap should be banned from license plates. No pictures, no statements, no stupid mottos, and no colorful gradients. Just your number and the state name.

    That said, if you're going to allow clutter onto the plates why not go the other way? If you allow plates for Christians then you have to offer plates for other religions, atheists and agnostics included? Maybe we'll end up with such a parade of crap on license plates that we'll finally revert to simple, clean designs. #licenseplates
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    Image of powermatic powermatic
    11/11/09

    In reply to NYT: Christian License Plate Banned By District Court
    I believe in samples, at least when I'm in Costco. #licenseplates
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    11/11/09

    In reply to NYT: Christian License Plate Banned By District Court
    Bring back the plain ol' two color, message free plates, for God's sake. #licenseplates
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    Image of Steve_in_NC Steve_in_NC
    11/11/09

    In reply to NYT: Christian License Plate Banned By District Court

    NC has had plates censored also. "First in Freedom" was offensive to some hand wringer, so NC coveted the Wright brothers success, based on their long history of work in Ohio. "First in Flight" replaced the horror of the celebration of human freedom from oppressive governments.

    I find it funny how intolerant liberals cite the first amendment as a reason to deny free speech.
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    11/11/09

    @Steve_in_NC: You might want to read up a little before you rewrite all the 1st Amendment jurisprudence.

    [www.bjcpa.org] #licenseplates
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    11/11/09

    @Steve_in_NC: I think anti religion should be the new religion. I say we should recognize it so we can hold them to the same restrictions and prejudices. #licenseplates
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    11/11/09

    @Shamoononon: I shave my legs.: Infinite loop! Help! #licenseplates
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    11/11/09

    @beercheck: A break will be encountered only after people learn to mind their own business. Otherwise the whole damn thing is going to crash.
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    Image of Brad Brad
    11/11/09

    @Steve_in_NC: Get over yourself. This isn't an abridgment of free speech, you can put whatever the hell you want on your Christ-mobile.

    This is about a state government promoting a particular religion. The GOVERNMENT doesn't get to have free speech.

    What if this was another religion? What if there was a nice moon and star with the phrase "Allah Protect Me" written below it? I mean, we have many Muslims in the United States...

    The point is that this was not some intolerant liberal Nazi-ing your socialism, this is exactly what the First Amendment states, and was put in place for. That's why the exact same plate got struck down in Florida last year. #licenseplates
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    11/11/09

    @Brad: actually the state is not forcing you to use that plate. you get to pay an additional fee to use a custom plate. If a state wanted to sell an allah plate I could care less, as long as there is an additional fee.
    Unlike how you sound I am tolerant, If I guy wants to drop to his knees next to me and pray to allah or a lady sitting next to me on a park bench wants to pray the rosary that's ok. Just don't force me to do it and we'll get along fine. #licenseplates
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    11/11/09

    @Steve_in_NC: Right but when the Government tries to step in and only endorses a single subset of a single religion, it's a problem. If you don't think it is, that's fine. But the 1st Amendment says otherwise. #licenseplates
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    11/11/09

    In reply to NYT: Christian License Plate Banned By District Court
    The judgment really isn't that hard to understand. The Constitution clearly states that there must be a separation between church and state. In this instance, the plates can be seen as being representative of the state, seeing as the state is issuing them, and therefore it ought not to have any sort of religious overtones to it.

    What's the controversy here?

    For people who are annoyed by all the Constitutional "violations" that are asserted as having happened in the past ten years, this ought to be a breath of fresh air. #licenseplates
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    11/11/09

    @pauljones: In God We Trust #licenseplates
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    11/11/09

    @pauljones: "The Constitution clearly states that there must be a separation between church and state."

    Define "clearly states". And then, when you're done with that struggle, define "separation" in this context.

    It's not as simple as some would have you believe.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/11/09

    @beercheck: See my response to jodark above. #licenseplates
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    11/11/09

    @Alfisted: You are failing to include much of the context involved here. The founding fathers were Deontologists, meaning that while they believed in a higher being, they did not necessarily believe in the concept of God as presented in any given religion.

    Also, you'll find that every major religion known to founding fathers all centered around a single, omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent figure referred to as "God", albeit with different translations such as "Allah", which, literally translated, means "God". Thusly, despite what appears to be a statement blatantly supporting Christianity, they were saying nothing of consequence, only pointing out that the people of the United States believed in God; note that they didn't specify what God.
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    11/11/09

    @pauljones: Don't get sucked into that argument. The founders would have been horrified by IGWT. It didn't show up on money until the 1860s, and it wasn't the national motto until the McCarthy-era.

    Also BTW, don't cast the founders as uniformly deist. Several were very conservative Christians, but they had seen the failure of theocracy, and they gave us a document with what is probably compromise language that has been useful to courts and legislatures in making rules for the interaction of church and state. #licenseplates
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    11/11/09

    @pauljones: I rest my case. #licenseplates
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    Image of Spinnyd Spinnyd
    11/11/09

    @pauljones: not in the copy of the constitution that I was issued, seems in mine it says "Amendment 1 Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech; or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble , and to petition the government for a redress of grievances", nope, doesn't say you can't make a religious license plate. Hey here's a thought, why don't they go ahead and make a plate for the top 5 religions then they can't say that they are picking one over the others? #licenseplates
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    11/11/09

    @Spinnyd: It also doesn't say that you have a right to a lawyer if charged with murder; so you won't mind if we don't provide you one? #licenseplates
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    11/11/09

    @Spinnyd: Yes, but think of the context that that was said in.

    It said that Congress shall make no law about religion, and there is a reason for that: the United States was intended to be a secular state in which people of any religion were free to practice the religion of their choice without fear of prosecution because that religion differed from a state-sponsored religion. By the same token, it also means that the government could do nothing that could even be remotely interpreted as being supportive of a religion, including issuing religiously-themed license plates.

    Thus, according to the Constitution, it cannot release a plate for any religion whatsoever. It more or less accomplishes the same goal you are suggesting but more efficiently. Also, license plates as we know them today did not exist in the 1700s, thusly it is understandable that there are no specific laws dating from that time that refer to something that did not then exist. #licenseplates
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