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    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    11/24/09

    In reply to Lexus LFA, Lease Or Buy: The Full Story
    You know, the engineers have stressed how musical their new engine sounds, and I think they're right...
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    11/23/09

    In reply to Lexus LFA, Lease Or Buy: The Full Story
    I dare an owner to stick a big decal on the hood of an Italian chef kissing his pinched fingers, because in white this thing is starting to remind me of an ultra-futuristic pizza box.

    Maybe I need lunch.
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    11/23/09

    In reply to Lexus LFA, Lease Or Buy: The Full Story
    There's an incredibly boring and arcane legal argument about how to characterize "leases" like these. I'll skip the details, but the relevant questions are:

    1) Whether Lexus can make the "lease" nontransferrable (to achieve the anti-speculative effect); and
    2) What happens when a bankruptcy court (or other forum) has to rule on what the "lessee" actually owns.

    I'm sure Lexus has great lawyers who already thought of these issues, but I question whether this is a workable arrangement and whether it will have the desired effect.
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    11/23/09

    In reply to Lexus LFA, Lease Or Buy: The Full Story
    Who killed the LFA?
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/23/09

    @FTGDWolverineEdition'09: As per Frankenstein, it had to be alive first.
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/23/09

    In reply to Lexus LFA, Lease Or Buy: The Full Story
    My garage is full.
    No thanks.
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    Image of VeeArrrSix VeeArrrSix
    11/23/09

    @skaycog was here: I am Jalopnik. My garage is full.
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/23/09

    @VeeArrrSix: That's better!
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    Image of VeeArrrSix VeeArrrSix
    11/23/09

    @skaycog was here: or "full of El Caminos, Volvos, E30 BMW's, a 95 Ford CF7000 Rollback, and one supercharged Jaguar"
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/23/09

    @VeeArrrSix: Lucky you....quite an array of neat vehicles! Alas, in this life, all I have is my Explorer.
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    Image of VeeArrrSix VeeArrrSix
    11/23/09

    @skaycog was here:

    I wish! One VeeDub, one Olds in mine.

    Thats the Jalop meme garage.
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/23/09

    @VeeArrrSix: Ha! I thought "jeez, this guy has big bucks....what's he doing here?" That swished right over my head.....I need some coffee or sumpthin. ;)
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    Image of Electro Gyrocator Electro Gyrocator
    11/23/09

    @skaycog was here: There's plenty of room on the lawn for the LFA.
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/23/09

    @Electro Gyrocator: My lawn is full.
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    11/23/09

    In reply to Lexus LFA, Lease Or Buy: The Full Story
    According to my math, this post has just slightly less than nil relevance to my life.

    Rightly or wrongly, I'm going to go ahead and file that away as a good thing.
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    11/23/09

    In reply to Lexus LFA, Lease Or Buy: The Full Story
    There will still be a line out the door to lease it, so for Toyota, it's a win/win.

    They still control the ultimate destiny of the car.
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    Image of ThreeLitre ThreeLitre
    11/22/09

    In reply to Yamaha Wants You To Hear The Lexus LFA
    I am sitting here in my room, alone, at 11:17pm on a Sunday night, after having had a few drinks, and I just had a religious experience listening to that noise.

    I don't know if the engineers intended it (but I'm fairly sure they did because it's freakin' Yamaha), but the noise it makes right at the red line on full throttle, right before you shift - I cannot get enough of it. Heavenly.

    A choir of angels couldn't top that.
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/20/09

    In reply to Yamaha Wants You To Hear The Lexus LFA
    Yamaha makes pianos? I thought it was all about the SHO.
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    Image of Mobius Mobius
    11/20/09

    In reply to Yamaha Wants You To Hear The Lexus LFA
    The more I know about this car, the less outrageous its price tag becomes. Still not the prettiest or the fastest or the most luxurious or the most desirable, its little foibles (all in a good way) and that sound (THAT SOUND!!!) is starting to win me over.

    Now, I just need to find that money somewhere.
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/20/09

    In reply to Yamaha Wants You To Hear The Lexus LFA
    Yeah. That's why Japanese cars are soulless.

    I can't ever imagine Bizzarrini trying to break down engine notes into numbers and algorithms.

    And I don't like how it sounds. But it is how I would imagine how a high revving Yamaha engine to sound.
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    Image of dal20402 dal20402
    11/20/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: Exquisitely perfected technique has its own, different kind of soul.

    See my comment below about just how great high-revving Yamaha engines can be.
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    Image of IronicalBalls IronicalBalls
    11/20/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: Relax already.
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    Image of Muscles Marinara Muscles Marinara
    11/20/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: I agree, the sound is insane but I can't say I like it. It's not for everybody, that's for sure, although it's obvious that it is an amazing engine. And I'm not sure if you are referring to the small-block Chevy-powered Bizzarrini cars, which also sound awesome, or the engine that powers the car in the video above, but I'm gonna assume it's the latter... so...
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    Image of Naters4 Naters4
    11/20/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: Agreed, it sounds totally mathed out and digitized. Listening to that I felt like I had Gran Turismo playing in the background. Video game sounds... just a little too perfect.
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    Image of Tyson Tyson
    11/20/09

    @Naters4: You know what though? The Italians do the same. There are all sorts of things every car maker does, like program in misfires on throttle-lift, just for the sounds that it makes. People expect an engine to sound a certain way, and the audio engineers try to make everything match up.
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    Image of donwonton donwonton
    11/20/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: Like this?
    [www.yamaha-motor.com]
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    Image of F1Morgan F1Morgan
    11/20/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: Yes they are soulless in a way, they are a subtle and functional people, I lived there a while. But I bet if you look closely and drive one it will be a Zen like experience.
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/21/09

    @Tyson: Well, Bizzarrini doesn't make engines anymore, and yes. Modern supercar manufacturers tune the engine notes, but I don't quite think that even just 1 or 2 decades ago, they tuned the engines by measuring the frequencies or developing sound paths for the engine note to get into the cabin. It's too pedantic to be truely soulful.

    And yes. Obviously following that logic, modern Italian cars are going to sound less soulful than the classic ones. I don't think anyone can deny that.
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    Image of geschmidtt geschmidtt
    11/21/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: Modern cars are missing (as is the case of this Muira) the deep throated intake of 6 dual Webers with tuned velocity stacks. Fuel injection is just not going to create the funky kind of combustion that you get from those air swallowing beasts, with a tuned or not tuned exhaust.
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    Image of Turboner Turboner
    11/20/09

    In reply to Yamaha Wants You To Hear The Lexus LFA
    I hate it when I get something stuck in my dragon eye...

    BTW sounds great, although I normally remove the accousting dampening "tanks" and other unnecessary items from my intakes. I like to hear those pulses in concert with the exhaust.
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    Image of Steve_in_NC Steve_in_NC
    11/20/09

    In reply to Yamaha Wants You To Hear The Lexus LFA
    I got your dragon eye right here!
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    11/20/09

    In reply to Yamaha Wants You To Hear The Lexus LFA
    So, they added an extra pipe into the car, because the air intake noise was too wheezy on its own?
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    Image of elev elev
    11/20/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: I remember Top Gear mentioning that the M3 has a similar feature
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    Image of Otto Suksumake Otto Suksumake
    11/20/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: Yeah sounds like it.

    Ferraris dont need that...
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    Image of jark jark
    11/20/09

    @elev: GTIs and Mustangs have tubes to let engine noise in the cabin also
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/20/09

    @Otto Suksumake: Actually, they do. Ferrari recognizes that sound is one of the most important aspects of their cars, and they spend as much time tuning the exhaust note as they do tuning other major elements of the car.

    I don't know if it's true or not, but I remember reading a blurb in Motor Trend where it was said that Ferrari frequently sacrifices some degree of engine efficiency just to get the right sound. Again, I don't know how true that is, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it was true.
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    Image of Tanshanomi Tanshanomi
    11/20/09

    @jark: So, sound deadening insulation, then you pipe in the noise? I can't help but think of something to do with Monty Python, crates, and trenches.
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    Image of Otto Suksumake Otto Suksumake
    11/20/09

    @pauljones: Right i'm sure they tune for sound. But they don't pipe it in...

    Might as well play a throttle-angle influenced V12 soundtrack over the speakers. Would be cheaper than pipes.

    #tips
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    11/20/09

    @Tanshanomi: Heh! Attaboy!
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    Image of jark jark
    11/20/09

    @Tanshanomi: I think the sound deadening is for road noise and then they pipe in some engine noise for the enthusiast models only, because who wants to hear a VW I-5 or a Mustang V-6?
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    Image of Clown Shoe Pilot Clown Shoe Pilot
    11/04/09

    In reply to Lexus LFA In Matte Black Shows Off Coolest Carbon Fiber Bit
    now... will you have to PROVE you own an LFA to get a replacement CF hood prop, or will any schmuck (like me) with several hundred dollars be able to walk into their friendly lexus parts dept and buy one? #lexuslfa
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