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    1972 Lancia Fulvia 1600HF Down On The London Street

    PCH, Italian Coupe For About A Grand Edition: Lancia Beta or Alfa Romeo GTV?

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    11/17/09

    In reply to 1972 Lancia Fulvia 1600HF Down On The London Street
    Yet another car I'll likely never see in person. Beautiful - sporty yet understated in a way few cars have managed. #lancia
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    11/16/09

    In reply to 1972 Lancia Fulvia 1600HF Down On The London Street
    Hotness. #lancia
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    11/16/09

    In reply to PCH, Italian Coupe For About A Grand Edition: Lancia Beta or Alfa Romeo GTV?
    The Alfa, once you've dropped $60-70k on it, could be worth up to $20 grand and will be the object of someone's desire. The Lancia, while not as bad as some would lead you to believe, will NEVER be worth $20k no matter how much you spend on it and no one but a hardcore Lancisti will want it. Therefore, Lancia. #beta
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    11/16/09

    In reply to 1972 Lancia Fulvia 1600HF Down On The London Street
    I love these things. Far more eccentric than a GTV or a Fiat Dino. #lancia
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    11/15/09

    In reply to 1972 Lancia Fulvia 1600HF Down On The London Street
    Murilee, how come you posted this joker's pictures and not my crappy camera phone pictures from the Keokuk, Illinois Mustangs-Only-No Rice-Burners-Allowed Car-Show? #lancia
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    Image of UDMan UDMan
    11/15/09

    @mechimike: There there Mike. I though Murilee was going to use some of my SEMA Porn shots this weekend, but it looks like she is trying to catch up on the DOTS SE postings.

    I'm sure yours will be coming up soon, now that there is only one more LeMons race this year. #lancia
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    11/15/09

    @UDMan: Someday I'll catch up on everything! #lancia
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    11/16/09

    @Murilee Martin: And the day after that, you'll be dead. Which is why I plan to never finish anything. #lancia
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    11/15/09

    In reply to 1972 Lancia Fulvia 1600HF Down On The London Street

    As opposed to the bastardized-Fiat Beta coupe in yesterday's PCH, this is pure Lancia through and through. The Fulvias are definitely worth preserving, though they still rust like mad. Very pretty little coupe, but that front-end facelift with the staggered lights is not an improvement over the original nose. #lancia
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    11/15/09

    @tonyola: Staggered headlights are awesome. '62 Chrysler Newport? Buick Wildcat? #lancia
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    11/15/09

    @mechimike: Which Wildcat had staggered lights? The only Buick I can think of with staggered lights was the '59 - the Wildcat was introduced for '62. You really think those little pods for the outer lights on the '72 Fulvia are an improvement over the smoother, earlier nose? #lancia
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    11/15/09


    @tonyola: Here's a 1965 Wildcat. Notice the staggered lights, but on the same plane. #lancia
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    11/15/09


    @tonyola: 1966 also had these types of headlamps. #lancia
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    11/15/09


    @tonyola: Though nothing says staggered headlamps quite likr the 1962 Dodge Dart, or the 1962 Plymouth Fury. Here's the Dart: #lancia
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    11/15/09


    @UDMan: Actually it wasn't the Fury, it was the 1963 Dodge Polara and 330. #lancia
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    11/15/09

    @UDMan: There's some faces only a mother could love. #lancia
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    11/16/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: Hey, hey! Those are MoPar faces. They march to a different drummer. #lancia
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    11/16/09

    @tonyola: I'm not a big GM fan, I misspoke. Yes, it was those '59's I was speaking of. Lincoln had them too, I forget the model. #lancia
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    11/15/09

    In reply to PCH, Italian Coupe For About A Grand Edition: Lancia Beta or Alfa Romeo GTV?
    I've owned several examples of both these vehicles. The Beta is pure over-packed Italian front-wheel-drive engine bay hell. The GTV is a walk in the park, expecially after you convert to carbs. #beta
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    11/15/09

    In reply to PCH, Italian Coupe For About A Grand Edition: Lancia Beta or Alfa Romeo GTV?
    I refuse to choose - both reside on my favorite ring of Hell. #beta
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    11/15/09

    In reply to PCH, Italian Coupe For About A Grand Edition: Lancia Beta or Alfa Romeo GTV?
    Both would be great projects. But the Lancia would be the harder project, and fewer people care about Lancias. The Lancia's body isn't near as sexy as the Alfa's, either. So it's an easy call.

    But they are both big bumpered, emissions strangled Italian iron and aluminum, so everyone's a winner here. #beta
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    11/15/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: Actually, I don't really think the 2000 GTV was that emissions-strangled. For the 71 model year they actually increased the HP total up to 130, which is not bad considering the car still weighs about 300lbs less than a Honda Civic. And the Lancia's FWD. Ugh. #beta
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    11/16/09

    @Muscles Marinara: I agree. I'd argue that aside from the inclusion of the Spica FI vs. Dual Webers there is no emissions. The 75 or 76 on Spiders have power strangling emissions. and depending upon which alfisti you speak to, the stock Spica in top tune is a better driver than an equal Carb'd car. I loved my dual webers on my 72' but my 73' reliability and ease of starting sold me on the Spica. #beta
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    Image of SeanKHotay SeanKHotay
    11/15/09

    In reply to PCH, Italian Coupe For About A Grand Edition: Lancia Beta or Alfa Romeo GTV?
    If only the Lancia was a Scorpion, it might have a PCH chance in, uh, PCH against the oil-less, unknown titled, passenger windowless, 20-year-dusted, rusted-in-all-the-Alfa-places GTV.... #beta
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    11/15/09

    In reply to PCH, Italian Coupe For About A Grand Edition: Lancia Beta or Alfa Romeo GTV?
    I'm having trouble voting because I'm intrigued by the Cutlass with the potato for a gas cap.
    Also, I know nothing about Italian cars, except that they are pretty and diabolically unreliable, and hence expensive. I'll go with the Alfa, though, because it looks more like its heritage and less, as with the Lancia, like an old Sentra or Stanza. Or Cressida. You know what I mean.

    Because PCH is all about the suffering, and why suffer for what looks like an econobox?
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    11/15/09

    @Novaload: Growing up in Seattle, before it was cool, we used to tell outsiders that the weather was awful, the economy poor, the area was the last bastion of west coast rednecks and the traffic terrible. All in the hope that nobody would come.

    This is the same logic that drives those in the know to tell the world how bad these affordable Italians are - so that they will remain affordable. The truth is, they are remarkably easy to wrench on (by modern standards) and incredibly rewarding to drive. #beta
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    11/15/09

    @Alfisted: Well, now you've ruined it, though, haven't you? #beta
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    11/15/09

    @Alfisted: Dude, don't tell them! I still haven't scraped together the money for a 1750 Berlina! #beta
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    11/15/09

    In reply to PCH, Italian Coupe For About A Grand Edition: Lancia Beta or Alfa Romeo GTV?
    I'll go for the Lancia, because I'm absolutely shocked that any still exist. #beta
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    11/15/09

    In reply to PCH, Italian Coupe For About A Grand Edition: Lancia Beta or Alfa Romeo GTV?

    I know enough people to help me with the Alfa ... gotta go there... #beta
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    11/15/09

    In reply to PCH, Italian Coupe For About A Grand Edition: Lancia Beta or Alfa Romeo GTV?
    Having ridden in Jay Lamm's GTV, I can say they're great cars... that is, after you write a 5-figure check to have Conrad Stevenson go through them. #beta
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    11/15/09

    In reply to PCH, Italian Coupe For About A Grand Edition: Lancia Beta or Alfa Romeo GTV?
    Forget the Lancia. It might be attractive but it's a malaise US special with a pathetic 82 horsepower out of the 1800 engine. Also, this car probably has the Soviet-sourced steel that Fiat received in payment for setting up the VAZ/Lada factory. It's a wonder that this car isn't a pile of reddish flakes. Maybe the paint is holding it together. Give it time.

    The Alfa looks to be a private import. I don't think that Alfa was still selling the GTV in the US in 1974 (I couold be wrong, though). The front bumper looks like a Euro model. At any rate, it has the classic Giugiaro styling and these coupes have become genuinely collectible. Which makes it the bigger tease. You'll be forever chasing the ephemeral dream of creating a desirable driver that will be worth some coin. That makes it more hellish.

    Glad to see PCH is back - I hope it becomes a regular feature again. #beta
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    11/15/09

    @tonyola: You've brought up something interesting-- I know that Alfa was still bringing GTVs stateside in '74, because a friend of mine bought one new, but I don't know how they escaped the big, fat impact bumpers that the DOT was mandating on other cars. #beta
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