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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    12/03/09

    In reply to 2011 Kia Sorento: Signed, Sealed, Delivered
    Signed, sealed...sucky.

    Less space-efficient station wagon.

    Fail.
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    that ain't the way to have fun, son was starred that ain't the way to have fun, son was unstarred
    Image of tempesjo tempesjo
    12/03/09

    In reply to 2011 Kia Sorento: Signed, Sealed, Delivered
    If you go over to the Brilliance BS4 stage, you will see that its builders also write personal messages to the buyers on each vehicle. Although their practice is rooted less in pride and more in the history of writing messages on bombs during WWII. My favorite message is on the back of the engine block: "If you can read this, you have just gotten into a 25mph head-on collision."
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    12/03/09

    In reply to 2011 Kia Sorento: Signed, Sealed, Delivered
    Sheesh, that's a lot of soulless minions of orthodoxy.
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    bmoreDLJ was starred bmoreDLJ was unstarred
    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    12/03/09

    In reply to 2011 Kia Sorento: Signed, Sealed, Delivered
    I would never buy it (because if I think I need a wagon, I'll actually just buy a wagon), but it's handsome save for one detail: the enormous D pillar. You could put a billboard on there.
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    Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp was starred Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp was unstarred
    Image of P161911 probably shoudn't have P161911 probably shoudn't have
    12/03/09

    In reply to 2011 Kia Sorento: Signed, Sealed, Delivered
    We need close ups of the signatures. With that many surely there is at least one of the following:
    I.P Freely
    Dick Hertz
    Amanda Huginkiss
    Al Koholic
    Anita Dick
    Harry Balls
    and so and and so forth.

    Maybe at least a George P. Burdell, surely there was at least one Georgia Tech engineer involved, since it was built in Georgia.
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    P161911 probably shoudn't have was starred P161911 probably shoudn't have was unstarred
    Image of brandegee brandegee
    12/03/09

    In reply to 2011 Kia Sorento: Signed, Sealed, Delivered
    Mmmm...cheese.
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    Image of weatherman weatherman
    12/03/09

    In reply to 2011 Kia Sorento: Signed, Sealed, Delivered
    It's a decent looking car - at its best it has elements of RDX and Edge, at its worst a little Grand Cherokee and Venza. But it's a good middle-of-the-road design that should appeal to a lot of people. I'm not so impressed with the base engine specs and it remains to be seen what the usable cargo capacity is, but if they can keep the price low but improve on the quality, it should sell decently.
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    weatherman was starred weatherman was unstarred
    Image of Ash78, cube farmer Ash78, cube farmer
    12/03/09

    In reply to 2011 Kia Sorento: Signed, Sealed, Delivered
    Does it bother anyone else when a car is named after a real place, with just one minor alteration?

    Why not "Santa Feh" or "Tooscon" or "Cedona"?
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    Image of FormerlyPreferredCustomer FormerlyPreferredCustomer
    12/03/09

    @Ash78, cube farmer: Santa Feh? That would be ideal for transporting your Hannukah bush.
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    Ash78, cube farmer promoted this comment FormerlyPreferredCustomer was starred FormerlyPreferredCustomer was unstarred
    Image of Ash78, cube farmer Ash78, cube farmer
    12/03/09

    @FormerlyPreferredCustomer: How about the Kia Seoul?
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    Ash78, cube farmer was starred Ash78, cube farmer was unstarred
    Image of LoganSix LoganSix
    12/03/09

    @Ash78, cube farmer: Feh is right. Another jelly bean. Give me something new and old, like this.
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    GreenN_Gold promoted this comment LoganSix was starred LoganSix was unstarred
    Image of GreenN_Gold GreenN_Gold
    12/03/09

    @LoganSix: I actually like the looks of that thing if I could delete the wood trim and chrome gas cap.
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    Image of LoganSix LoganSix
    12/03/09

    @GreenN_Gold: You mean like this?

    I actually suggested the "Woody" version to the chopartist (SuzQ).
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    LoganSix was starred LoganSix was unstarred
    Image of GreenN_Gold GreenN_Gold
    12/03/09

    @LoganSix: Yes, like that. Although now there's nothing to draw my eyes away from the big bootie. And the retro wheels are gone. I think this would have sold better than the Commander.
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    Image of LTDScott LTDScott
    12/03/09

    In reply to 2011 Kia Sorento: Signed, Sealed, Delivered
    Here's another vehicle where the front license plate location makes the front end of the car look all buck-teethy. Move the bracket up a couple of inches and it'd look so much better.

    Or just don't run a front plate like I do, and hope you don't get pulled over *knock on wood*.
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/18/09

    In reply to BMW, Toyota Don't Make IIHS 2010 Top Safety List
    Now if anyone, even just one, person at Chrysler had half a brain, they'd really grab this opportunity. Safety is important, and a fantastic selling point.

    This may be the one and only thing Dodge can shove into Toyota's face and actually have ground to stand on.
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    Image of rickerbr rickerbr
    11/18/09

    In reply to BMW, Toyota Don't Make IIHS 2010 Top Safety List
    How are the Jetta and A3 midsize cars and a 4Dr Golf a small car? They are on the same platform, same wheelbase and the Golf probably has more interior volume. I always wonder about the IIHS but this confirms it....
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    DoctorNine promoted this comment rickerbr was starred rickerbr was unstarred
    Image of HDC HDC
    11/18/09

    In reply to BMW, Toyota Don't Make IIHS 2010 Top Safety List
    Wow. A reason to actually buy a Sebring, Journey, Avenger, or Patriot. I see much potential in these otherwise craptastic vehicles as destruction derby rides.
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    FTGDWolverineEdition'09 promoted this comment HDC was starred HDC was unstarred
    Image of quayzar quayzar
    11/18/09

    @HDC: That's the ugly duckling moral.

    It's OK that you are such a terrible car now little Chrysler. As you will grow up to be the only car still running in a demolition derby when you lose half your value next year.

    And with that the little Chrysler was no longer self conscious about it's looks as it knows that for it's true purpose in life looks don't matter.

    Chug along little shit box, chug along to victory.
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    Image of HDC HDC
    11/18/09

    @quayzar: As long as the transmission holds out, yer golden.
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    HDC was starred HDC was unstarred
    Image of Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe) Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe)
    11/18/09

    In reply to BMW, Toyota Don't Make IIHS 2010 Top Safety List
    I'm not sure I'll understand the hate for the IIHS around here. I know the arguments - the tests aren't representative of real-world conditions, making cars safer in crashes leads to irresponsible drivers, the IIHS tests have contributed to the bloat and ugly designs...

    But, really, isn't it better to know what would happen to your car in the event that it experienced the kind of crash that they are testing? As opposed to having no idea how one car will perform vs. another... And you can't blame better design for a lack of personal responsibility. Especially when that better design can still save your a*! when some jerk with NO personal responsibility comes crashing into you in a frontal offset setup after crossing the double-yellow line while reaching for their cell phone...
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    Novaload promoted this comment Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe) was starred Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe) was unstarred
    Image of dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity
    11/18/09

    In reply to BMW, Toyota Don't Make IIHS 2010 Top Safety List
    Want to be safe? Just buy the black car with the concrete front in the first picture.
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    Image of Rabbi Dave Rabbi Dave
    11/18/09

    In reply to BMW, Toyota Don't Make IIHS 2010 Top Safety List
    Just a big FYI
    The IIHS does not test Porsches. It does not test many of the most expensive BMWs and Mercedes either. Therefore their absence should not make a big difference.

    The IIHS told us they tested only 52 roofs at this point. Why? Because when they told manufacturers of the tests and asked them to send cars they thought had a chance of passing, all they got was 52. of those 27 passed. They will add new models to the list throughout the year though as they do more testing. That's why so many 2010 models were rushed through the old testing to get 2009 awards.
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