Bonus Jalopnik Points for identifying the car whose doors get blown off by the only fluid-injected, turbocharged aluminum Turbo Rocket V8 engine with true high compression performance and enormous surge of Jetfire power.
Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. was starred
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Man, I wish my girl had that kind of expression when I "Accelerate sharply". It's usually more like screaming at me to slow down while white-knuckling the two (yes, you read that right, two) "oh shit!" bars and yelling about how she can't pick her head up off the head rest.
If I do let off the gas, punching and shouts of "I hate you!" ensue shortly there after.
I wonder if the fact that I have a Ford and it's supercharged instead of a turbocharged GM has anything to do with it?
@Jstas: High compression engine + lumpy cam + properly tuned exhaust + slightly firm seats will net you a similarly dramatic, muscle tensing response, but with a few minor important differences.
When testing the Turbo Rocket V8 on that Oldsmobile, I wonder if GM also checked the hollow doorsills for proper drug smuggling capabilities (per Robin Moore's book, "The French Connection", the Jetfire and it's Buick Invicta sibling were the mules of choice for Jean Jehan's operatives)?
@Tomsk the red-nosed reindeer: I knew that...but years of "fun" and pursuit of multiple forms of worthless knowledge have pushed that particular fact down a memory hole. Also, Jehan's men preferred the Special model due to it's reduced flash factor. Thank you for the cranial splunking.
Okay, so we all know the Buick-Olds-Pontiac-Rover 215-cubic inch V8 is a popular swap into MGBs. Does anyone know of anyone trying to shoehorn the Jetfire Turbo V8 under the hood-- sorry, under the bonnet-- of an MG or a related British car? Because that would rock. The only problem would be maintenance-- not only would the driver have to keep an extra jar of that special Lucas smoke (you know, in case the smoke leaks out of your wiring harness) but one would probably want to keep extra Turbo-Rocket fluid in the car at all times.
Of course, this engine did live on in the form of the Rover V8 which was produced until 2005 if I remember. I'd say a 43 year production run ain't bad! And from what I hear, the Brits managed to make it almost as unreliable as the Buick version.
The small-diameter turbocharger was manufactured by Garrett AiResearch and produced a maximum of 5 psi (34 kPa) boost at 2200 rpm. The engine had 10.25:1 compression and a single-barrel carburetor. It was rated at 215 hp (160 kW) @ 4600 rpm and 300 lb·ft (406 N·m) @ 3200 rpm. The high compression ratio created a serious problem with spark knock on hard throttle applications, which led Olds to use a novel water-injection system that sprayed small amounts of distilled water and methyl alcohol (dubbed "Turbo-Rocket Fluid") into the combustion chambers to cool the intake charge. If the fluid reservoir was empty, a complex double-float and valve assembly in the Turbo-Rocket Fluid path would set a second butterfly (positioned between the throttle butterfly and the turbocharger) into the closed position, limiting the amount of boost pressure. Unfortunately, many customers did not keep the reservoir filled, or had mechanical problems with the turbocharger plumbing.
The turbocharger was offered only in a special Jetfire model, which was the first turbocharged passenger car offered for public sale. Only 9,607 were sold in two model years, and many were converted by dealers to conventional four-barrel carbureted form.
@NovaloadMissesPolar: That would explain the turbo my Dad has on a shelf in his shop. It has a side draft one barrel Rochester carb and some unidentifiable plumbing (Where the rocket fluid was admitted?) and there is a water jacket around the intake side housing.
He claims a friend of his bought a 215 engine from a wrecked car to put in a sand drag rail. Rules wouldn't permit a turbo so it was replaced with a holly 650. Dad, being an incurable pack rat asked to have the turbo, and there it sits.
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If I do let off the gas, punching and shouts of "I hate you!" ensue shortly there after.
I wonder if the fact that I have a Ford and it's supercharged instead of a turbocharged GM has anything to do with it?
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Of course, this engine did live on in the form of the Rover V8 which was produced until 2005 if I remember. I'd say a 43 year production run ain't bad! And from what I hear, the Brits managed to make it almost as unreliable as the Buick version.
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Here's some specs:
The small-diameter turbocharger was manufactured by Garrett AiResearch and produced a maximum of 5 psi (34 kPa) boost at 2200 rpm. The engine had 10.25:1 compression and a single-barrel carburetor. It was rated at 215 hp (160 kW) @ 4600 rpm and 300 lb·ft (406 N·m) @ 3200 rpm. The high compression ratio created a serious problem with spark knock on hard throttle applications, which led Olds to use a novel water-injection system that sprayed small amounts of distilled water and methyl alcohol (dubbed "Turbo-Rocket Fluid") into the combustion chambers to cool the intake charge. If the fluid reservoir was empty, a complex double-float and valve assembly in the Turbo-Rocket Fluid path would set a second butterfly (positioned between the throttle butterfly and the turbocharger) into the closed position, limiting the amount of boost pressure. Unfortunately, many customers did not keep the reservoir filled, or had mechanical problems with the turbocharger plumbing.
The turbocharger was offered only in a special Jetfire model, which was the first turbocharged passenger car offered for public sale. Only 9,607 were sold in two model years, and many were converted by dealers to conventional four-barrel carbureted form.
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He claims a friend of his bought a 215 engine from a wrecked car to put in a sand drag rail. Rules wouldn't permit a turbo so it was replaced with a holly 650. Dad, being an incurable pack rat asked to have the turbo, and there it sits.
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(Sorry... I'm currently in the middle of a pr0n DVD review. Can't always switch that part of my prose brain off...)
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i know, somehow all i managed to take away from that was "harsh probing" by oldsmobile engineers. ;)
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