@MushyHeirloom: Typically these N-M Xmas catalog cars have not held their value well, including the T-Bird (neither the 1970 nor the 2001 models).
Here is rundown:
1970 "His and Hers" Ford Thunderbird
1995 BMW Z3 James Bond edition (at $35,000)
1996 GMC Suburban Sony edition
1997 Audi TT
1997 Ducati 748L
1998 BMW X5
1998 Aston Martin DB7
2000 Lexus SC 430
2001 Ford Thunderbird (200)
2002 Cadillac XLR (101)Exclusive color was Burnt Cherry with Sand leather.
2003 BMW 645Ci
2004 Maserati Quattroporte (at $125,000)
2005 Lexus GS 450h (75 at $65,000)Crystalline Ice Exclusive Exterior color.
2006 BMW M6 Convertible only, Exclusive color was Ruby Black Exterior with Piano Black accents.
2007 Lexus LS600hL (100 to commemorate the Centennial of Neiman Marcus. Exclusive Exterior color is Truffle Mica.)
2008 BMW 7-Series (new 2009 completely redesigned 7 series, Exclusive Color was Diopside Black with Champagne Merino leather.
The existence of this proves to me the current economic and creativity depression needs to reach deeper and be for longer, in order to reach all it should.
Remember, money doesn't fly off the planet, it is merely redistributed.
Doesn't look at all like a Jaguar from the front. There is too much Volvo S80 there. They need to lower the vertical dimension of the grille, and give it more Jag styling cues. Also the rear lights are Volvo-esque. I suppose gradually, they will improve the front end.
It has, after all, been only a scant few months since they escaped the clutches of Ford's styling machine.
Seeing it from more angles now, I am sold. Here's why:
Picture 4: That is a thoroughly modern silhouette and profile. The details here that I like are the rear quarter window shape. That is a wonderful curve - reminiscent, slightly, of a 911 - albeit more pointed. That gives it a very nice athletic and aggressive stance.
Picture 6: It still has charm. The grille may be carried over from the XF and the front end is nearly a dead ringer for the XF in its entirety. But, ask yourself, did they get the XF front end wrong? No. This is where they are making the new Jag. That grille has a connection to the past, but the general style is all new. If you think about it, most people when asked to quickly clarify the most memorable thing about the outgoing XJ would probably say the headlights - the front of the car. Here we go again, then.
Picture 19: The back actually does work. I still think it borrows heavily from the C6, but again - bad thing? The back of the C6 is lovely. It is stately and simple and elegant. It might not be an AMV8, but you'll know what it is when you drive up behind one. That said, I really don't like the leaping cat - a bit ostentatious I feel.
Picture 34: I'll end with this one. It just looks good. Great proportions. Some interesting elements, and not likely to stand out in a sea of Ferraris. That's just about everything a Jag is supposed to do stylistically.
I'm not sure about this, but I agree that you can't judge a car from the pictures alone. I mean, I remember when the Maserati GranTurismo was revealed, I immediately thought, "Wow, that is easily the sexiest car I've ever seen, but I'd better wait to see it in real life, because it might be a bit of a porker." And remember the E65 7-series that introduced the world to the Bangle Butt? We all fell over the pictures of that, praising it for how sleek and low it looked and gasping in awe at how well resolved the rear fenders and trunk were. You'd never have known that in the flesh it looked like an inflated manatee with a congenital tail deformity. So despite the fact that the new XJ looks like someone forgot to strip the disguise off its arse end before they pulled the sheets off it, I'm confident that these photos taken by professional photographers in ideal lighting conditions at angles chosen to make this car look the very best it can could be distorting the hooker-carrying potential of this ride, and in the flesh it doesn't look like the unfortunate recipient of a junk transplant from a Ford Scorpio.
I'm definitely a fan. Sure, some of the details are wonky, but it's about time Jaguar got away from the stuffy Victorian-era drawing rooms filled with old toffs reminiscing about the Boer War and into the 20th century or so. They don't have to lose their "British charm," but even old Jaguars were cutting edge for the time, which is something people tend to forget.
I like the new style. Another thing to consider is that it might look different in real life. I thought the XF looked meh in pictures, but I was very impressed when I saw the actual car. Maybe it has to do with scale - these cars are a lot bigger than the pictures make them appear.
I like this. It's sleek and modern. But, I still absolutely adore the outgoing model. So, if I owned Jaguar, I would sell both. This as a higher priced super sleek luxury express, and the XJ as the classic, Olde England piece of awesome. Here's a picture just for the hell of it.
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Ford: People wanted the Thunderbird.
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Here is rundown:
1970 "His and Hers" Ford Thunderbird
1995 BMW Z3 James Bond edition (at $35,000)
1996 GMC Suburban Sony edition
1997 Audi TT
1997 Ducati 748L
1998 BMW X5
1998 Aston Martin DB7
2000 Lexus SC 430
2001 Ford Thunderbird (200)
2002 Cadillac XLR (101)Exclusive color was Burnt Cherry with Sand leather.
2003 BMW 645Ci
2004 Maserati Quattroporte (at $125,000)
2005 Lexus GS 450h (75 at $65,000)Crystalline Ice Exclusive Exterior color.
2006 BMW M6 Convertible only, Exclusive color was Ruby Black Exterior with Piano Black accents.
2007 Lexus LS600hL (100 to commemorate the Centennial of Neiman Marcus. Exclusive Exterior color is Truffle Mica.)
2008 BMW 7-Series (new 2009 completely redesigned 7 series, Exclusive Color was Diopside Black with Champagne Merino leather.
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Remember, money doesn't fly off the planet, it is merely redistributed.
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That statement made me laugh. Automotive enthusiasts and intelligent people? Precisely the opposite who will buy this special edition.
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@tempesjo:
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Pave The Planet. Loved that site...the early days of the Internet for the 'common folk'.
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Just for that, I'm going to give the blueprints away to Geely, Chery, Brilliance, and ChanFeng. Good luck with your little endeavor, Jagoffs.
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It has, after all, been only a scant few months since they escaped the clutches of Ford's styling machine.
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The insignia on the steering wheel isn't close to straight.
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Picture 4: That is a thoroughly modern silhouette and profile. The details here that I like are the rear quarter window shape. That is a wonderful curve - reminiscent, slightly, of a 911 - albeit more pointed. That gives it a very nice athletic and aggressive stance.
Picture 6: It still has charm. The grille may be carried over from the XF and the front end is nearly a dead ringer for the XF in its entirety. But, ask yourself, did they get the XF front end wrong? No. This is where they are making the new Jag. That grille has a connection to the past, but the general style is all new. If you think about it, most people when asked to quickly clarify the most memorable thing about the outgoing XJ would probably say the headlights - the front of the car. Here we go again, then.
Picture 19: The back actually does work. I still think it borrows heavily from the C6, but again - bad thing? The back of the C6 is lovely. It is stately and simple and elegant. It might not be an AMV8, but you'll know what it is when you drive up behind one. That said, I really don't like the leaping cat - a bit ostentatious I feel.
Picture 34: I'll end with this one. It just looks good. Great proportions. Some interesting elements, and not likely to stand out in a sea of Ferraris. That's just about everything a Jag is supposed to do stylistically.
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I like this. It's sleek and modern. But, I still absolutely adore the outgoing model. So, if I owned Jaguar, I would sell both. This as a higher priced super sleek luxury express, and the XJ as the classic, Olde England piece of awesome. Here's a picture just for the hell of it.
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