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Nicholas Lauer
11/23/09

In reply to Opel Insignia OPC: First Drive
I don't think they should call it a GNX, or GN. I'm hoping they bring back that name plate for a RWD car based on the camaro platform (now that pontiac is dead). I know.. wishful thinking.

I don't think that GS should be put on it either. Granted I thought the old GS was a cool contender with the supercharged 3.8... but why associate it with something that it isn't.

Give it a unique name...
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that ain't the way to have fun, son
11/23/09

In reply to Opel Insignia OPC: First Drive
I'm gonna save my GNX wants for a two-door, black-as-night, coupe...with the CTS-V's engine, after it's been upped to 650+ HP.

Grand National, though...I'm good with this.

Personally, I want this package in an automatic, and I'm not anti-Jalop, or anti-manual, just can't do it, long-term, any more.

Caution, the really fun hobbies can kill you...if you're doin' them right.
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bmoreDLJ
11/23/09

In reply to Opel Insignia OPC: First Drive
The Acura was uglified, while the Mazda 6 was blobified and softened. So yeah, there isn't much else out there to match the Regal's blend of FWD, sportyish pretensions, midsize space, and handsome looks. I tip my hat to GM, this is a legitimately good car, and I hope they make a performance version.
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FTGDWolverineEdition'09
11/23/09

In reply to Opel Insignia OPC: First Drive
Does it guzzle at OPEC levels?
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Braff
11/23/09

In reply to Opel Insignia OPC: First Drive
Is this similar to the AWD system in the 2010 S4? I know they talk a lot about vectoring as well...
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jafoca
11/23/09

@Braff: From all knowledge of other audi products, not specifically the new s4...

No. Not the same system. Audi generally uses TorSen AWD system, which apparently has been vectoring all along. The exceptions to the audi=torsen rule are the A3 and TT.

Haldex (which is the system in this opel, and also in my new audi A3) is used mainly on vehicles with transversely mounted engines, platforms originally intended for FWD.

Sidenote: most people say that TorSen is superior. I can't say yet as I have only had my car for 1 month, and no snow yet :) Also, Bugatti Veyron supposedly uses a Haldex system.
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KinOfCain
11/23/09

@Braff/Jafoca: Sort of/not really. This is a transverse-mounted, FWD car with a power-takeoff unit sending power through a clutchpack between the front and rear axles combined with a clutchpack-operated lockable rear diff, as opposed to the Audi which has a true torsen center differential with a rear-biased torque split on dry pavement, coupled with two clutchpacks on the rear half-shafts for torque vectoring.

The "vectoring" of the haldex rear diff is a bit misleading (just like all the other marketing BS from haldex). It's a good system, but it's basically just a rear diff that can lock up. It has a single clutchpack on the rear diff that can lock the two halfshafts together, as opposed to something like the (heavier, more expensive, more complicated) tw0-clutchpack system used on the Audi and some (not all) of Acura's SH-AWD systems.

The Audi uses a system with a clutchpack on each of the rear half-shafts, which lets you disengage one of the halfshafts progressively. Because of the way differentials work, this effectively "vectors" torque to the other wheel.

The Haldex system progressively locks the rear axle, which prevents the inside wheel from spinning, but it doesn't technically vector torque to the outside wheel. Any situation where one rear wheel has a different torque split than the other would require one to have more traction than the other, and indeed, Haldex's examples show one wheel on ice, which is intentionally misleading, IMO.

That said, this system is better than having an open rear diff, and is cheaper and more compact than a system with a true center diff and two rear-axle clutchpacks.
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Braff
11/23/09

@KinOfCain: wow, great reply - thank you.

#tips
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dal20402
11/23/09

In reply to Opel Insignia OPC: First Drive
The right badge is GS, not GNX.
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Ben Wojdyla
11/23/09

@dal20402: Nobody at GM said GNX, all the giddy reporters were saying GNX.
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vwminispeedster, pronounded Si-trow-in
11/23/09

In reply to Opel Insignia OPC: First Drive
You down with OPC?

Yeah, you know me.
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Ash78, cube farmer
11/23/09

In reply to Opel Insignia OPC: First Drive
Change the wheels, black out the brake intakes and exhaust surrounds, de-chrome the grille and trunk, and do something with the tails (tint?). It's a nice foundation, but I'm just not loving most of the finishing visual touches.

And 4,000# for a sedan this size with manual transmission? That's just incredible.

I'm still down with OPC, just saying.
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camp6ell
11/23/09

@Brimful of Ash on the 78: incredibly heavy or incredibly light?
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Ash78, cube farmer
11/23/09

@camp6ell: About 600# higher than I would have guessed, even with AWD.
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Maymar
11/23/09

In reply to Opel Insignia OPC: First Drive
This is about as deserving of the GNX mantle as I am of valedictorian. I'm not bothered by the AWD 4-door bit, but it won't embarrass Corvettes. I'd accept the Grand National badge though. Or, really, however I can get it - throw Daewoo badges on, and I'd still drive the crap out of it.

But still, clocking in at a small dog shy of 2 tons is disturbing.
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snapoversteer 'bout to get told
11/23/09

In reply to Opel Insignia OPC: First Drive
You calm down, Ben. No need for blasphemy. Take not the name of the G_X in vain. Maybe more of a Wildcat.
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LuciferV8
04/15/09

In reply to 2010 Opel Insignia OPC, Vauxhall VXR Gunning For Audi S4
No, no, the Saturn version will look ugly, have at most an NA 2.4 Ecotec, and be nothing but front-wheel drive. Grandma will love it. THAT's a true Saturn.
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Ash78, cube farmer
04/15/09

In reply to 2010 Opel Insignia OPC, Vauxhall VXR Gunning For Audi S4
I'm really waiting for someone to sway me away from an Audi, I am. But I just can't get them out of my head. The new, unmistakable Audi Q5. The new, unmistakable Audi Q5. The new, unmistakable Audi Q5. The new, unmistakable Audi Q5. The new, unmistakable Audi Q5.
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MplsCarPunk
04/15/09

@Ash78: Just don't forget the unmistakable feeling of driving it in the shop every week for repair. Bosch makes Lucas look like a supplier of dependable electronic parts. I have an A6. Nice to drive. Not nice to keep running.
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.357
04/15/09

@Ash78: Use AdBlock.
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Ash78, cube farmer
04/15/09

@MplsCarPunk: You don't have to preach to me on that. I have not one, but TWO fully-loaded Passats. My electronics are very similar to yours (hell, half of it's probably identical). Comfort control module, ABS module, window electronics...
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Ash78, cube farmer
04/15/09

@Lord Pferdestärke the 357th: Would be nice. IE6 at work.

Besides, looking at ads helps to keep my Jalopnik free! Right?
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.357
04/15/09

In reply to 2010 Opel Insignia OPC, Vauxhall VXR Gunning For Audi S4
It has eLSD! I want this car a lot more now.
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FЯeeMan
04/15/09

@Lord Pferdestärke the 357th: but stay away from the brown eLSD
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engineerd
04/15/09

In reply to 2010 Opel Insignia OPC, Vauxhall VXR Gunning For Audi S4
The ePRS (US Patent No. c11077983) translated the press release from the original German to this:

GM, Opel and Vauxhall (collectively known as General Borg, or GB for short) announce the 2010 Opel Insignia OPC/Vauxhall VXR/Never Gonna See This in the States.

The turbocharged 2.8L V6 in the Opel Insignia "OLE for Process Control", or OPC, will put out 325 hp and 400 Nm of torques. Complete with a 6-speed manny tranny, the Insignia will get to 100 km/h in 6 seconds and connect all your control systems together in one easy-to-configure system.

Lowered by 10mm and with AWD, the Insignia is aiming to not be an insignificant member of the sport sedan market.

We then repeat everything we just said, but did a cut/replace with Vauxhall VXR replacing Opel Insignia OPC. The major difference is interconnectivity via OPC is replaced by another acronym tying this car to the completely badass VXR8.
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aSoundofSleep-less nights
04/15/09

In reply to 2010 Opel Insignia OPC, Vauxhall VXR Gunning For Audi S4
Alright people, let's gear up and save Saturn. We need to import these som'bithces to Saturn dealers asap. Charge $10k less than comparable Audi A4. Saturn, "We can change!"

1. Move steering wheel to left side.
2. Import to Saturn dealer.
3. Leave Opel badging on car, change nothing.
4. Charge less than Audi.
5. Defect from GM.
6. ???
7. Profit.
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.357
04/15/09

@Duke Sound Vtechen of Sleepenburg: Yes. Here's how I think that will turn out. Read my comment: [jalopnik.com]
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sos10
04/15/09

@Duke Sound Vtechen of Sleepenburg: I think you can skip .1
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