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    The U.S. Sales Door Creaks Open For Chinese, Indian Cars

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    Image of dal20402 dal20402
    07/28/09

    In reply to The U.S. Sales Door Creaks Open For Chinese, Indian Cars
    I wonder how many Hyundai/Kia buyers actually know their cars are Korean...

    I think it would be interesting to survey those buyers, asking where their cars were made.
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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    07/28/09

    @dal20402: It seems to me someone did a study a while back that demonstrated a serious lack of knowledge about where consumers' cars brands were based and where their cars were manufactured. Case in point: my brother used to date a girl who was forced to drive Fords, because her dad worked for Ford. What did she drive? A Hecho en Mexico Fusion, of course, because it's "American (Fuck Yeah!)".
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    Image of Fauxhemian Fauxhemian
    07/28/09

    In reply to The U.S. Sales Door Creaks Open For Chinese, Indian Cars
    Ahem: "young, well educated, and affluent for their age" does not indicate that these people are smart, especially regarding cars. I wonder how many in this demographic bought Daewoos ten years ago.
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    07/28/09

    @Fauxhemianardi: Are you talking about the Suzuki Forenza, or the Chevy Lacetti?
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    07/28/09

    @tgpt: Don't forget the Aveo!
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    Image of Jim-Bob Jim-Bob
    07/28/09

    In reply to The U.S. Sales Door Creaks Open For Chinese, Indian Cars
    Although I would prefer to buy a new Lada 2110 "Classic" as my next new car, I would also be open to a nice Maruti Suzuki (Chevy Sprint) or a Tata Nano as my next new car as well. It's just a shame that it is no longer possible to buy a new Trabant 601 anywhere in the world as I would take that over anything this side of a 2CV or Renault 4.
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    07/28/09

    @Jim-Bob: +1

    Do you think any country would be willing to trade all of our crossovers for all of their simple econocars?
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    Image of Jim-Bob Jim-Bob
    07/28/09

    @Maymar is breaking in the commenting system...: Sadly it seems the rest of the world is following us in our need for over complicated, bloated crap that is expensive to maintain and dies an early death. I really can't see a new Prius from today living to be 20-30 years old. It just has too many expensive things to go wrong. A Lada, Trabant, Zaporozhetz, Beetle, Fiat 500, etc. however is so simple that anyone can understand it and keep it going indefinitely. You could probably find a Trabant in a Bulgarian barn somewhere that hasn't run in 30 years and get it going for around $10. Try that with a similar "Barn Find" hybrid when they get that old. After all, it's rare to see a 1st gen hybrid on the road today. They just cost too much to fix, and help contribute to our throw away society that values fashion over utility.
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    07/28/09

    In reply to The U.S. Sales Door Creaks Open For Chinese, Indian Cars
    I'm still waiting for a North Korean import.
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    07/28/09


    @mr_dude:Taedong River beer. Coming soon to a divebar near you.
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    07/28/09

    @Number_Six: Never seen a guy so pleased by a taedong. Count me in.
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    Image of LUV_TRUK LUV_TRUK
    07/28/09

    In reply to The U.S. Sales Door Creaks Open For Chinese, Indian Cars
    After having worked with multiple Chinese engineering vendors, I believe the most dangerous job in the world is Chinese Astronaut. Number 2, would be early-adopters of Chinese autos.

    It's not the technical skill that is the problem, but the impulse to say "yes, this works", "yes, this is the best solution", and "yes, I tested this" when that necessarily isn't true.
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    07/28/09

    @LUV_TRUK: Agreed. It's the cultural taboos of telling your boss he's wrong, speaking up when you know something wont work, and letting your superiors know when you've got a better idea. If manufacturing isn't focused on building a superior product you end up with an inferior one.
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    Image of theeastbaykid theeastbaykid
    07/28/09

    @TimTim: Actually, GM had a pretty good ride with that approach.
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    07/28/09

    In reply to The U.S. Sales Door Creaks Open For Chinese, Indian Cars
    Not incredibly surprised. This is yet another indicator of how Americans views of transportation are changing. 1 out of 7 Americans though? Better check the Jalop score before buying, fellow commenters.

    It does put on display widely differing opinions: So many Chinese manufacturing practices are criticized, yet their products are welcomed with open arms.
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    07/28/09

    @TimTim: I'm thinking a Chinese car might do pretty well on the Jalop scale. They're big into the smoking over there so there's a chance they could have more ashtrays than cupholders and possibly even still have working cigarette lighters.

    Then there's our general love for Comunistic crapboxes and vehicles deemed inherently unsafe.
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    07/28/09

    In reply to The U.S. Sales Door Creaks Open For Chinese, Indian Cars
    In spite of its overwhelming cheepness, I like BYD's Toyota Aygo knockoff, given how it's an incredibly simple hatchback (seriously, pop-out windows on the rear doors). And Mahindra's trucks look pretty cool. So, yeah, I'd consider Chinese or Indian cars. Hell, I'd consider something from, I dunno, Micronesia, as long as it interested me.
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    Image of an gucci skyline mane an gucci skyline mane
    07/28/09

    @Maymar is breaking in the commenting system...: Is Micronesia Indonesia's micro brother, or something?
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    07/29/09

    @an not so happy skyline: It's pretty freakin' small - like, less than 20 miles across.
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    Image of philibuster philibuster
    07/28/09

    In reply to The U.S. Sales Door Creaks Open For Chinese, Indian Cars
    The study also revealed that while those who would consider a car from China and India rate reliability and durability high, they are not as interested in the dynamics of a vehicle like handling, braking and acceleration.

    I suppose most jalops would not fit in the category.
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    Image of FЯeeMan FЯeeMan
    07/28/09

    @philibuster: This just goes to support our position here at Jalopnik that the average car-buying American is a total moron when it comes to cars.

    One look at a crash test video of a Chinese car will make one think long and hard about 'reliability and durability'.

    Also, anyone interested in vehicle dynamics will not be buying an SUV. They handle like the trucks they are.
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    07/28/09

    In reply to The U.S. Sales Door Creaks Open For Chinese, Indian Cars
    I think Kia and Hyundai have intentionally suppressed their Korean origin, instead riding Japan's "import" coattails.

    This study's results are a resounding non-shocker.
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    Image of Karsten Von Urea for All Sales Event Karsten Von Urea for All Sales Event
    07/28/09

    @beercheck - Commentin' Dirty: I believe most people just assume Kia and Hyundai are Japanese.

    On a semi-related note, on more than one occasion, I've had people surprised to find out Subaru was Japanese. Their swamping ad campaign had led them to believe Subaru was Australian.
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    Image of PowerTryp is holding a Fiesta party. PowerTryp is holding a Fiesta party.
    07/28/09

    @Karsten Von Urea for All Sales Event: Their badge actually leads to that. Hold it up next to the Ausi flag and make note of the similarities.
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    Image of c0de c0de
    07/28/09

    In reply to The U.S. Sales Door Creaks Open For Chinese, Indian Cars
    why not french cars ? they're cheap small and economical.
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    07/28/09

    @c0de:I didn't know this until about 5 minutes ago, but I want most of Renault's current lineup. I'd also settle for a '94 Twingo (since I could license it easily).
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    Image of Peugeot--Making Bicycles Once Again Peugeot--Making Bicycles Once Again
    07/28/09

    @Maymar is breaking in the commenting system...: Some of their new models are pretty nice, especially the Megane line that just came out, the Laguna too.
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    07/28/09

    @Peugeot--Not Yet a Star: Those both caught my eye - the Laguna coupe is very pretty, and the Megane coupe is, well, it's a little strange, but I like that.
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    07/28/09

    In reply to The U.S. Sales Door Creaks Open For Chinese, Indian Cars
    Thats cause they never realized that Kia or Hyundai were korean.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    07/28/09

    In reply to The U.S. Sales Door Creaks Open For Chinese, Indian Cars
    Wonder what will happen to that percentage when folks get a look at an actual car sitting right in front of them. Early adopters of Lexi got a great deal, Hyundais, not so much.
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    Image of Ash78, cube farmer Ash78, cube farmer
    07/28/09

    In reply to The U.S. Sales Door Creaks Open For Chinese, Indian Cars
    only 16% for Korean cars.

    "Young, affluent people" are that ignorant? I didn't realize the Koreans were having so much trouble with penetration after more than a decade.
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    Image of Miscellanea Miscellanea
    07/28/09

    In reply to The U.S. Sales Door Creaks Open For Chinese, Indian Cars
    Can't say I'm surprised. The economic crunch has people re-evaluating less expensive brands that they might have previously ignored.
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