One more extraordinarily complex and expensive system that will render your car undrivable when it inevitably craps out. How about some stuff that puts me in more direct contact with what's happening in the car and on the road, and increases the physical pleasure of driving. And, no, I don't want an 8-way vibrating seat.
In a world where it is difficult to distinguish one car from another in a particular class, innovation like this will help to differentiate one car from another. Its about time the carmakers stop trying to develop in-car tech themselves and work with tech companies to get it done.
Look at the Sync system. Ford had a hand in its development, but rather than try to get the talent at Ford to put together the interface and hardware they worked with Microsoft.
Technology is still a fairly rapidly developing field. Carmakers, by the nature of their business, are not used to dealing with rapid change. Look at how long after the CD came out that they were still putting tape decks in cars.
I know there are those of us who don't really care for a lot of this. I don't really want to download "widgets" into my car's infotainment system. In fact, if all I had were a GPS screen with 3D graphics I would be set. However, I think that as we get more and more "connected" as a society there will be more and more people who will actually enjoy these features.
Do not need, do not want. In fact, you can take back your power windows, heated seats and (in pickups) upholstered headliners. Give me a care with 1970's sensibilities and 21st century performance and reliability.
As cool as all this sounds, I'm sorry, but my car just does not need to do this shit. I can figure out the gas mileage myself, thank you. I can use a map and a compass. I already talk to myself too much, I don't need the car to encourage it. I can see what traffic is like by looking out my windshield, dammit. I don't give a shit if it's snowing in Buffalo, as I don't live in Buffalo. HD movies in car? No thanks, people are already too distracted on the road. Stock prices? Call your broker or buy a fucking newspaper.
Why in the name of God do we need cars to do this shit? Will they be wiping our asses and informing us if our pee contains trace amounts of peanut oil next? Will they tell me when my girlfriend is ovulating?
I don't care. I want a car to drive, not relieve me of any sense of purpose in life.
I just want cars to go back to having standard, turn-key ignitions; not this "insert fob, shift weight to left butt cheek, depress gas, place transmission lever in D, rub stomach and pat head simultaneously, key lawyer screen, press red start button, enjoy your drive.
@pauljones: Same here. Just seems like a lot of make-work projects for the tech companies...like the work going into making this happen far exceeds the actual benefit consumers will derive.
Never mind the safety aspects of it. I like my in-dash trip computer with basic stats (temp, mpg, avg speed, time, etc). And I enjoy my CD player and changer.
Neither takes my eyes off the road for more than 1 second, ever. And all the control inputs are tactile and easily memorized.
@pauljones: Sadly... my car already does virtually all of these things. Not anywhere near as elegantly, but between my Satnav, satellite radio, DVD player, touchscreen, iPod, email, cellphone, and bluetooth integration, there aren't many things that Hughes system demonstrated that I can't already do now.
I agree with you.. one hundred meeeeelioooon percent! I dont want a nav system in my car.. because of having a device tell me shit.
If I want to go finding out where stuff is.. Im enough of a intelligent human being that I cant get lost easily. Especially if ya take 2 seconds to drive around and figure out where ya are.. instead of latching ya fuckin hands to the fuckin wheel.
NOW... I refuse to have a GPS unit in my car I refuse to have sat radio in my car I refuse to have any incar tv, internet electro b.s in my car. My car is for driving.. and tearing assholes of other bastards who brake at 80mph with 20 car lengths.
My car is for driving.. high speeds... corners, cornering...
Not this.. sitting back pansy bullshit.
Yes.. I also agree. I wont buy a car with the push button tech I also wont buy one with a hard drive mounted in the vehicle.
Ive gone on enough trips to far out places where I can figure out where I am by driving around. It takes a lot to get me lost.
My car is not a computer. Ya dont buy a car to have SYNC or a computer stuffed in it.
Ya buy a car.. to get from one place to another.. as fuckin quick and as satisfying as god damn possible.
We are so completely on the same page here that I think hell must have just frozen over.
I guess purists like us, there will always be DC2 Integras and early GM F-bodies. If you can find any that haven't been totally thrashed and trashed by idiot kids, that is.
@pauljones: Agreed. As long as I can plug my iPod into the stereo, I don't care about the rest.
I'm glad I'm not alone with the pushbutton start. JUST GIVE ME A FUCKING KEY. No hands-free, no buttons, no bullshit. And make it plain, metal, normal-sized key that I can actually fit on a key ring and into my pocket.
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Hughes, I need directions to an ATM, an Escort, a motel that accepts cash with no questions asked, and 3 competing street pharmacists in a ten block radius. I like to price shop what can I say?
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You know, I love technology. I'm a computer geek and I maintain fairly sophisticated communications equipment for a living, so if it's got knobs and buttons, I'm usually all over it. I don't, however, feel the need to have a computer stuck in my dashboard.
What I WOULD like to see in my vehicle is an LCD screen that would give me real-time diagnostic information so I could see what the heck the OBDII and CAN systems are doing. Would that be too much to ask?
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One more extraordinarily complex and expensive system that will render your car undrivable when it inevitably craps out. How about some stuff that puts me in more direct contact with what's happening in the car and on the road, and increases the physical pleasure of driving. And, no, I don't want an 8-way vibrating seat.
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Look at the Sync system. Ford had a hand in its development, but rather than try to get the talent at Ford to put together the interface and hardware they worked with Microsoft.
Technology is still a fairly rapidly developing field. Carmakers, by the nature of their business, are not used to dealing with rapid change. Look at how long after the CD came out that they were still putting tape decks in cars.
I know there are those of us who don't really care for a lot of this. I don't really want to download "widgets" into my car's infotainment system. In fact, if all I had were a GPS screen with 3D graphics I would be set. However, I think that as we get more and more "connected" as a society there will be more and more people who will actually enjoy these features.
The purists, as usual, will be the minority.
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I think the reliability was better in the 70s.
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GPS? easy.
Bluetooth? easy.
XM? easy.
DVD? easy.
Calendar? I know Toyota's in-car nav has it, at the least.
Text? Sync does it.
WiMax? easy-ish.
So really it's just email and widgets, which you can also do with an iPhone and some two-sided tape. That, and the integration of everything.
I'm not impressed.
02/05/09
Why in the name of God do we need cars to do this shit? Will they be wiping our asses and informing us if our pee contains trace amounts of peanut oil next? Will they tell me when my girlfriend is ovulating?
I don't care. I want a car to drive, not relieve me of any sense of purpose in life.
I just want cars to go back to having standard, turn-key ignitions; not this "insert fob, shift weight to left butt cheek, depress gas, place transmission lever in D, rub stomach and pat head simultaneously, key lawyer screen, press red start button, enjoy your drive.
" crap.
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Never mind the safety aspects of it. I like my in-dash trip computer with basic stats (temp, mpg, avg speed, time, etc). And I enjoy my CD player and changer.
Neither takes my eyes off the road for more than 1 second, ever. And all the control inputs are tactile and easily memorized.
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It even tells you when your pee contains trace amounts of peanut oil?
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I agree with you.. one hundred meeeeelioooon percent!
I dont want a nav system in my car.. because of having a device tell me shit.
If I want to go finding out where stuff is.. Im enough of a intelligent human being that I cant get lost easily. Especially if ya take 2 seconds to drive around and figure out where ya are.. instead of latching ya fuckin hands to the fuckin wheel.
NOW...
I refuse to have a GPS unit in my car
I refuse to have sat radio in my car
I refuse to have any incar tv, internet electro b.s in my car.
My car is for driving.. and tearing assholes of other bastards who brake at 80mph with 20 car lengths.
My car is for driving.. high speeds... corners, cornering...
Not this.. sitting back pansy bullshit.
Yes.. I also agree.
I wont buy a car with the push button tech
I also wont buy one with a hard drive mounted in the vehicle.
Ive gone on enough trips to far out places where I can figure out where I am by driving around. It takes a lot to get me lost.
My car is not a computer.
Ya dont buy a car to have SYNC or a computer stuffed in it.
Ya buy a car.. to get from one place to another.. as fuckin quick and as satisfying as god damn possible.
02/05/09
We are so completely on the same page here that I think hell must have just frozen over.
I guess purists like us, there will always be DC2 Integras and early GM F-bodies. If you can find any that haven't been totally thrashed and trashed by idiot kids, that is.
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I'm glad I'm not alone with the pushbutton start. JUST GIVE ME A FUCKING KEY. No hands-free, no buttons, no bullshit. And make it plain, metal, normal-sized key that I can actually fit on a key ring and into my pocket.
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Can't you see it? "Unlock the doors please" "I'm sorry, I can't do that..." as the train rolls toward you...
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What I WOULD like to see in my vehicle is an LCD screen that would give me real-time diagnostic information so I could see what the heck the OBDII and CAN systems are doing. Would that be too much to ask?
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