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NYT: Christian License Plate Banned By District Court
Detroit, 5:23 PM
Fri Nov 20
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Desoto. Where religion meets cars. Properly. #licenseplates
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Here's where religion + cars go together. #licenseplates
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Here's where car + religion makes sense. #licenseplates
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That said, if you're going to allow clutter onto the plates why not go the other way? If you allow plates for Christians then you have to offer plates for other religions, atheists and agnostics included? Maybe we'll end up with such a parade of crap on license plates that we'll finally revert to simple, clean designs. #licenseplates
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NC has had plates censored also. "First in Freedom" was offensive to some hand wringer, so NC coveted the Wright brothers success, based on their long history of work in Ohio. "First in Flight" replaced the horror of the celebration of human freedom from oppressive governments.
I find it funny how intolerant liberals cite the first amendment as a reason to deny free speech.
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[www.bjcpa.org] #licenseplates
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This is about a state government promoting a particular religion. The GOVERNMENT doesn't get to have free speech.
What if this was another religion? What if there was a nice moon and star with the phrase "Allah Protect Me" written below it? I mean, we have many Muslims in the United States...
The point is that this was not some intolerant liberal Nazi-ing your socialism, this is exactly what the First Amendment states, and was put in place for. That's why the exact same plate got struck down in Florida last year. #licenseplates
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Unlike how you sound I am tolerant, If I guy wants to drop to his knees next to me and pray to allah or a lady sitting next to me on a park bench wants to pray the rosary that's ok. Just don't force me to do it and we'll get along fine. #licenseplates
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What's the controversy here?
For people who are annoyed by all the Constitutional "violations" that are asserted as having happened in the past ten years, this ought to be a breath of fresh air. #licenseplates
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Define "clearly states". And then, when you're done with that struggle, define "separation" in this context.
It's not as simple as some would have you believe.
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Also, you'll find that every major religion known to founding fathers all centered around a single, omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent figure referred to as "God", albeit with different translations such as "Allah", which, literally translated, means "God". Thusly, despite what appears to be a statement blatantly supporting Christianity, they were saying nothing of consequence, only pointing out that the people of the United States believed in God; note that they didn't specify what God.
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Also BTW, don't cast the founders as uniformly deist. Several were very conservative Christians, but they had seen the failure of theocracy, and they gave us a document with what is probably compromise language that has been useful to courts and legislatures in making rules for the interaction of church and state. #licenseplates
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It said that Congress shall make no law about religion, and there is a reason for that: the United States was intended to be a secular state in which people of any religion were free to practice the religion of their choice without fear of prosecution because that religion differed from a state-sponsored religion. By the same token, it also means that the government could do nothing that could even be remotely interpreted as being supportive of a religion, including issuing religiously-themed license plates.
Thus, according to the Constitution, it cannot release a plate for any religion whatsoever. It more or less accomplishes the same goal you are suggesting but more efficiently. Also, license plates as we know them today did not exist in the 1700s, thusly it is understandable that there are no specific laws dating from that time that refer to something that did not then exist. #licenseplates
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Curse those activist judges making a reasonable interpretation of the first amendment (i.e., literally striking down a law respecting religion)! #licenseplates
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I'm guessing these were specialty plates, but it would be great if they had the guts to make them standard issue. #licenseplates
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Of course, with all my complaining about New York earlier, I can safely say that I'm glad our state government, while tactless , isn't run by fundamentalist crazies. #licenseplates
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I'm in Wisconsin, and we are represented by run-of-the-mill crazies, which is a fair representation of the population and definitely a step above fundamentalist crazies. #licenseplates
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The entire movement toward tricked-up license plates just needs to die. I used to have cars with the most awesome, iconic license plate ever just by virtue of registering them in Texas. #licenseplates
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Then the Legislature got involved, and several designs by committee later, we have several choices of godawful crap I don't want on my car.
I mean, the Space Shuttle? Seriously? It blew up here. Is that something we want to advetise? How about just put a big dead Kennedy head on my bumper while you're at it or a burning school bus full of kids? #licenseplates
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@Jimmy-Pribble: This is the only new one I thought I would like because it has a horny toad on it, and that's one badass animal. But then I found out the $40/yr for the plate goes to promoting biodiversity or some other ghey hippie crap. Screw that. #licenseplates
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