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Hyundai should have designed the coupe's engine bay to accept the Tau V8. Had they done so from the beginning, I don't think it would have cost them too much extra money, and it would give them and aftermarket tuners a lot more flexibility with the platform.
The whole problem is that they failed to use the same platform for the two cars that share a name, so I wouldn't doubt that you could stuff the Tau V8 in the front of a Coupe but when your V6 already makes 300 HP then whats the point especially when the V6 weighs less.
The Camaro just came out, and the base model has an engine just as powerful as the high-end Genesis coupe (although the Camaro is actually a tenth of a second or two slower due to its weight, though it get better mileage), and the Camaro SS leaves the Genesis in the dust.
The 2011 Mustang will have a base engine more powerful than the Genesis coupe's premium engine, and won't have the same weight disadvantage that the Camaro has. And the 2011 Mustang GT? It, too, will leave the Genesis coupe in a cloud of dust and tire smoke.
Granted, the base price for the highest Genesis coupe trim line undercuts the base Camaro SS and Mustang GT price by a grand or two, but for that extra grand or two, you get a hell of a lot.
Where the Genesis coupe makes the least sense is stacked up against the base models of the 2010 Camaro and the 2011 Mustang, which are at the least it's peer in power, get better mileage, and are more refined than the Genesis coupe; all for a price that is in the same ballpark of a base, 4-cyl Genesis coupe.
Had Hyundai designed a little more growth potential into the Genesis coupe platform by designing it to accept the Tau V8, they could have made the platform more competitive in a broader field.
@dal20402: I've been trying to find the weight and dimensions of the Genesis engines, but, ironically, those seem to be the only bits of information I can't find about them.
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@pauljones: Yeah yeah yeah, I know they went and slapped the mustang and all that. But seriously, show me a guy who wants to buy a Mustang who's going to be swayed by a Genesis. My point being that in the real world, the yokels who want muscle cars won't be drawn to the the Genesis. It'll be young moderately successful guys and the JDM set.
But the truth is, the majority of people in the non-premium sporty, RWD coupe market (in which the Genesis, Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, 370Z, and RX-8 compete) aren't necessarily Mustang people. They are people out to buy a car in that class, and while they may have a short list, they are likely to consider alternatives based on the deals they can get and other similar criteria.
So yes, the Genesis does indeed compete with the Mustang.
Who'd have thought, twenty years ago, that the most drool-inducing object at SEMA would be a Hyundai? A MID-ENGINED Hyundai? A 500HP, V8, MID-ENGINED HYUNDAI? Surely we live in strange times, my friends. #hyundaigenesis
If this was available when I bought my 2.0T GT I'd probably have gone with it - but I'm still glad I didn't wait, because I do love having all the options too. :D #hyundaigenesiscoupe
@fuchikoma: You learn something every day! Thanks, guys!
I was once told that they were mutually exclusive and never bothered to think otherwise. But I don't use cruise anyway when I'm driving stick. #hyundaigenesiscoupe
I finally got a close look at one in person a couple days ago. I still find the exterior really awkward looking, but the interior is quite nice. #hyundaigenesiscoupe
19" WHEELS?!?!
jesus... if this is going to be a true tune it yourself pack, slap some 17"s on it..
the 19"s are killing autocrossers who want to play in stock classes. ever priced out 19" hoosier A6s? brutal
as a friend of mine put it... Campaign tires for a Sprite car. #hyundaigenesiscoupe
@MacMasterShane: Agreed... 19's are nothing but pure poser. If they were serious about this being a racer special, it would have the smallest diameter wheel that would fir over the stock brakes. Plus, the wheels will be the first think that tunerboyz throw away, so they don't need them, either.. #hyundaigenesiscoupe
@Gearhead's Garage: Actually, 18s are the smallest you can safely fit on the stock brakes. There are some 17s that work, but you have like 2mm of clearance at best.
The stock tires (Y-rated Hankook summer performance type in Canada) are also pretty awesome as long as there's absolutely no ice on the ground. Of course I don't have testing equipment to give you numbers, but it is quite easy to corner hard enough to pull your nose and lips to one side, lol...
Hopefully they'll be like Scion and still offer the cruise control as a dealer-install. I suppose I can do without the steering wheel audio controls, as once my iPod is plugged in I pretty much just use it to manipulate the volume. But, still... those two options probably save about as much weight as a 12 oz. can of Coke. If even that. #hyundaigenesiscoupe
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Hyundai should have designed the coupe's engine bay to accept the Tau V8. Had they done so from the beginning, I don't think it would have cost them too much extra money, and it would give them and aftermarket tuners a lot more flexibility with the platform.
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11/20/09
The whole problem is that they failed to use the same platform for the two cars that share a name, so I wouldn't doubt that you could stuff the Tau V8 in the front of a Coupe but when your V6 already makes 300 HP then whats the point especially when the V6 weighs less.
11/20/09
The Camaro just came out, and the base model has an engine just as powerful as the high-end Genesis coupe (although the Camaro is actually a tenth of a second or two slower due to its weight, though it get better mileage), and the Camaro SS leaves the Genesis in the dust.
The 2011 Mustang will have a base engine more powerful than the Genesis coupe's premium engine, and won't have the same weight disadvantage that the Camaro has. And the 2011 Mustang GT? It, too, will leave the Genesis coupe in a cloud of dust and tire smoke.
Granted, the base price for the highest Genesis coupe trim line undercuts the base Camaro SS and Mustang GT price by a grand or two, but for that extra grand or two, you get a hell of a lot.
Where the Genesis coupe makes the least sense is stacked up against the base models of the 2010 Camaro and the 2011 Mustang, which are at the least it's peer in power, get better mileage, and are more refined than the Genesis coupe; all for a price that is in the same ballpark of a base, 4-cyl Genesis coupe.
Had Hyundai designed a little more growth potential into the Genesis coupe platform by designing it to accept the Tau V8, they could have made the platform more competitive in a broader field.
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The Genesis Coupe is a bit smaller than its domestic competition. I'm thinking a V8 model would be very front-heavy.
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@Mixtronic: So can the Camaro and the Mustang. The Challenger? Well, not quite as well, but it's far from scary.
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But the truth is, the majority of people in the non-premium sporty, RWD coupe market (in which the Genesis, Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, 370Z, and RX-8 compete) aren't necessarily Mustang people. They are people out to buy a car in that class, and while they may have a short list, they are likely to consider alternatives based on the deals they can get and other similar criteria.
So yes, the Genesis does indeed compete with the Mustang.
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See this link for some true life Proto Spirra hoonage. enjoy.
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11/03/09
I read about how they might fit a 590hp bi-turbo V6 in it. Now that's something Koreans could be proud of. #hyundaigenesis
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'asian vette'
Looks like an anime version of the ZR1 #hyundaigenesis
11/03/09
@jbh11126: I now know what the headlights remind me of. #hyundaigenesis
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But now this puts the car in a whole new light for me...
some kind of asian propaganda sent to the US to destroy all....
take over the streets and, NO, I definitely didn't say it but...
actually beat a vette? #hyundaigenesis
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3800lb camaro? maybe not. #hyundaigenesiscoupe
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· R-Spec badging
· Tire Pressure Monitoring System
· Active front head restraints
· Remote keyless entry system
· Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
However it would add one item:
· Cruise Control
Not a bad car overall though, but would've been even better if the price was $1-2k less.
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My GenCoupe 2.0T GT is manual, and has cruise control. The way they chose to do it, you can even bump your speed up and down in increments of a few km/h with a switch on the steering wheel. #hyundaigenesiscoupe
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I was once told that they were mutually exclusive and never bothered to think otherwise. But I don't use cruise anyway when I'm driving stick. #hyundaigenesiscoupe
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jesus... if this is going to be a true tune it yourself pack, slap some 17"s on it..
the 19"s are killing autocrossers who want to play in stock classes. ever priced out 19" hoosier A6s? brutal
as a friend of mine put it... Campaign tires for a Sprite car. #hyundaigenesiscoupe
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The stock tires (Y-rated Hankook summer performance type in Canada) are also pretty awesome as long as there's absolutely no ice on the ground. Of course I don't have testing equipment to give you numbers, but it is quite easy to corner hard enough to pull your nose and lips to one side, lol...
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