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    Image of Turboner Turboner
    11/21/09

    In reply to 2011 Hyundai Genesis: "Tau" V8 Gets A 10 HP Bump
    I'm sure the irridium spark plugs had so much to do with it.
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    11/20/09

    In reply to 2011 Hyundai Genesis: "Tau" V8 Gets A 10 HP Bump
    Put this in the coupe asap and i will buy 2!
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    philibuster promoted this comment Ryan K. Light was starred Ryan K. Light was unstarred
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    11/21/09

    @Ryan K. Light: Hey, Pauljones, this guy just proved your point.
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    11/20/09

    In reply to 2011 Hyundai Genesis: "Tau" V8 Gets A 10 HP Bump
    Wow, because nobody has ever found a way to squeeze less than half a dozen horsepower from an engine by tinkering with the manifolds before.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/20/09

    In reply to 2011 Hyundai Genesis: "Tau" V8 Gets A 10 HP Bump
    I still have a hard time believing that they didn't design the Genesis coupe big enough to accept the Tau V8.
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    11/20/09

    @pauljones: Oh they did, you just have to put it in the back.

    [jalopnik.com]
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    pauljones promoted this comment PowerTryp, Starless wonder. was starred PowerTryp, Starless wonder. was unstarred
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    11/20/09

    @PowerTryp, Starless wonder.: Yeah, no. That doesn't qualify.

    Hyundai should have designed the coupe's engine bay to accept the Tau V8. Had they done so from the beginning, I don't think it would have cost them too much extra money, and it would give them and aftermarket tuners a lot more flexibility with the platform.

    #tips
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    11/20/09

    @pauljones: I thought it was a good joke.

    The whole problem is that they failed to use the same platform for the two cars that share a name, so I wouldn't doubt that you could stuff the Tau V8 in the front of a Coupe but when your V6 already makes 300 HP then whats the point especially when the V6 weighs less.
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    11/20/09

    @PowerTryp, Starless wonder.: Platform growth potential.

    The Camaro just came out, and the base model has an engine just as powerful as the high-end Genesis coupe (although the Camaro is actually a tenth of a second or two slower due to its weight, though it get better mileage), and the Camaro SS leaves the Genesis in the dust.

    The 2011 Mustang will have a base engine more powerful than the Genesis coupe's premium engine, and won't have the same weight disadvantage that the Camaro has. And the 2011 Mustang GT? It, too, will leave the Genesis coupe in a cloud of dust and tire smoke.

    Granted, the base price for the highest Genesis coupe trim line undercuts the base Camaro SS and Mustang GT price by a grand or two, but for that extra grand or two, you get a hell of a lot.

    Where the Genesis coupe makes the least sense is stacked up against the base models of the 2010 Camaro and the 2011 Mustang, which are at the least it's peer in power, get better mileage, and are more refined than the Genesis coupe; all for a price that is in the same ballpark of a base, 4-cyl Genesis coupe.

    Had Hyundai designed a little more growth potential into the Genesis coupe platform by designing it to accept the Tau V8, they could have made the platform more competitive in a broader field.

    #tips
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    11/20/09

    @pauljones: Don't expect Hyundai to cow tao to you whims by designing the coupe to accomodate the big 'ol V8 cow Tau.
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    Image of dal20402 dal20402
    11/20/09

    @PowerTryp, Starless wonder.: Good point on the weight. Does anyone know the weights of the 3.8 and the Tau?

    The Genesis Coupe is a bit smaller than its domestic competition. I'm thinking a V8 model would be very front-heavy.
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    pauljones promoted this comment dal20402 was starred dal20402 was unstarred
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    11/20/09

    @dal20402: I've been trying to find the weight and dimensions of the Genesis engines, but, ironically, those seem to be the only bits of information I can't find about them.
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    Image of alowishus wants to run a Saab Sonett III at LeMons alowishus wants to run a Saab Sonett III at LeMons
    11/20/09

    @pauljones: Somehow I don't think the Genesis Coupe is competing with big 'Merican muscle cars.
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    11/20/09

    @alowishus wants to run a Saab Sonett III at LeMons: It isn't? Then what was it that was Hyundai's rationale for bringing the Genesis coupe to the market?

    @Mixtronic: So can the Camaro and the Mustang. The Challenger? Well, not quite as well, but it's far from scary.
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    11/21/09

    @pauljones: Yeah yeah yeah, I know they went and slapped the mustang and all that. But seriously, show me a guy who wants to buy a Mustang who's going to be swayed by a Genesis. My point being that in the real world, the yokels who want muscle cars won't be drawn to the the Genesis. It'll be young moderately successful guys and the JDM set.

    #tips
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    11/21/09

    @alowishus wants to run a Saab Sonett III at LeMons: You make a fair point from the standpoint that a Mustang guy is a Mustang guy is a Mustang guy.

    But the truth is, the majority of people in the non-premium sporty, RWD coupe market (in which the Genesis, Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, 370Z, and RX-8 compete) aren't necessarily Mustang people. They are people out to buy a car in that class, and while they may have a short list, they are likely to consider alternatives based on the deals they can get and other similar criteria.

    So yes, the Genesis does indeed compete with the Mustang.

    #tips
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    11/03/09

    In reply to RMR Gives Genesis Coupe A Mid-Mounted 500 HP Tau V8 Finger
    Who'd have thought, twenty years ago, that the most drool-inducing object at SEMA would be a Hyundai? A MID-ENGINED Hyundai? A 500HP, V8, MID-ENGINED HYUNDAI? Surely we live in strange times, my friends. #hyundaigenesis
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    11/03/09

    In reply to RMR Gives Genesis Coupe A Mid-Mounted 500 HP Tau V8 Finger
    Since jalopnik doesn't support facebook video and there is only one lame drive-by video of a Spirra on youtube,

    See this link for some true life Proto Spirra hoonage. enjoy.

    [www.facebook.com] #hyundaigenesis
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    11/03/09

    @jbh11126: Oh yeah. It's not Proto anymore, by the way. They were bought out.

    I read about how they might fit a 590hp bi-turbo V6 in it. Now that's something Koreans could be proud of. #hyundaigenesis
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/03/09

    In reply to RMR Gives Genesis Coupe A Mid-Mounted 500 HP Tau V8 Finger
    #2 pic makes it look like a Vette on ecstasy or something. #hyundaigenesis
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    11/03/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: I think what you're looking for is

    'asian vette'

    Looks like an anime version of the ZR1 #hyundaigenesis
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    11/03/09


    @jbh11126: I now know what the headlights remind me of. #hyundaigenesis
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    11/03/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: +1. #hyundaigenesis
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    Image of jbh11126 jbh11126
    11/03/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: spitting image.

    But now this puts the car in a whole new light for me...

    some kind of asian propaganda sent to the US to destroy all....

    take over the streets and, NO, I definitely didn't say it but...

    actually beat a vette? #hyundaigenesis
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    Image of dragon951 dragon951
    11/04/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: See when I saw #2, I thought it was a pumpkin...I think I ate too much candy. #hyundaigenesis
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    Image of fuchikoma fuchikoma
    10/28/09

    In reply to Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0T R-Spec: Tuner-Ready, Budget-Priced
    If this was available when I bought my 2.0T GT I'd probably have gone with it - but I'm still glad I didn't wait, because I do love having all the options too. :D #hyundaigenesiscoupe
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    10/27/09

    In reply to Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0T R-Spec: Tuner-Ready, Budget-Priced
    How much is a the top secret GM Performance parts crate motor option? #hyundaigenesiscoupe
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    10/27/09

    In reply to Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0T R-Spec: Tuner-Ready, Budget-Priced
    I think I would much rather have a 300hp V6 Camaro.
    3800lb camaro? maybe not. #hyundaigenesiscoupe
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    10/27/09

    In reply to Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0T R-Spec: Tuner-Ready, Budget-Priced
    My version of the car (ideally) would also leave out the following stuff from the spec list:

    · R-Spec badging

    · Tire Pressure Monitoring System

    · Active front head restraints

    · Remote keyless entry system

    · Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors


    However it would add one item:

    · Cruise Control

    Not a bad car overall though, but would've been even better if the price was $1-2k less.
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    Edited by FTGDWolverineEdition'09 at 10/27/09 2:06 PM FTGDWolverineEdition'09 was starred FTGDWolverineEdition'09 was unstarred
    Image of AngryChineseDriver hates four-wheeled fatties! AngryChineseDriver hates four-wheeled fatties!
    10/27/09

    @FTGDWolverineEdition'09: Can't have cruise control on a manual tranny, I don't think. #hyundaigenesiscoupe
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    10/28/09

    @AngryChineseDriver -- R.I.P., Audi R8 Decepticon: Yes you can and I do in my SVT Focus. And I use it all the time too. Saves me from a lot of accidental speeding tickets. #hyundaigenesiscoupe
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    10/28/09

    @AngryChineseDriver -- R.I.P., Audi R8 Decepticon:
    My GenCoupe 2.0T GT is manual, and has cruise control. The way they chose to do it, you can even bump your speed up and down in increments of a few km/h with a switch on the steering wheel. #hyundaigenesiscoupe
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    10/29/09

    @fuchikoma: You learn something every day! Thanks, guys!

    I was once told that they were mutually exclusive and never bothered to think otherwise. But I don't use cruise anyway when I'm driving stick. #hyundaigenesiscoupe
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    Image of dolo54 blows minds and blows engines! dolo54 blows minds and blows engines!
    10/27/09

    In reply to Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0T R-Spec: Tuner-Ready, Budget-Priced
    I finally got a close look at one in person a couple days ago. I still find the exterior really awkward looking, but the interior is quite nice. #hyundaigenesiscoupe
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    10/27/09

    In reply to Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0T R-Spec: Tuner-Ready, Budget-Priced
    19" WHEELS?!?!
    jesus... if this is going to be a true tune it yourself pack, slap some 17"s on it..
    the 19"s are killing autocrossers who want to play in stock classes. ever priced out 19" hoosier A6s? brutal

    as a friend of mine put it... Campaign tires for a Sprite car. #hyundaigenesiscoupe
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    10/27/09

    @MacMasterShane: Agreed... 19's are nothing but pure poser. If they were serious about this being a racer special, it would have the smallest diameter wheel that would fir over the stock brakes. Plus, the wheels will be the first think that tunerboyz throw away, so they don't need them, either.. #hyundaigenesiscoupe
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    fuchikoma promoted this comment Gearhead's Garage was starred Gearhead's Garage was unstarred
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    10/28/09

    @Gearhead's Garage: Actually, 18s are the smallest you can safely fit on the stock brakes. There are some 17s that work, but you have like 2mm of clearance at best.

    The stock tires (Y-rated Hankook summer performance type in Canada) are also pretty awesome as long as there's absolutely no ice on the ground. Of course I don't have testing equipment to give you numbers, but it is quite easy to corner hard enough to pull your nose and lips to one side, lol...
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    Edited by fuchikoma at 10/28/09 7:01 PM fuchikoma was starred fuchikoma was unstarred
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    10/27/09

    In reply to Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0T R-Spec: Tuner-Ready, Budget-Priced
    Hopefully they'll be like Scion and still offer the cruise control as a dealer-install. I suppose I can do without the steering wheel audio controls, as once my iPod is plugged in I pretty much just use it to manipulate the volume. But, still... those two options probably save about as much weight as a 12 oz. can of Coke. If even that. #hyundaigenesiscoupe
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    10/27/09

    In reply to Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0T R-Spec: Tuner-Ready, Budget-Priced
    Idea is genius. Hope it sells and more manufacturers follow suit. #hyundaigenesiscoupe
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