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    2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid Qualifies For $3,400 Federal Hybrid Tax Credit

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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    01/28/09

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid Qualifies For $3,400 Federal Hybrid Tax Credit
    So Hybrid owners don't have to pay taxes. Deadbeats.
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    Image of wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx
    01/28/09

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid Qualifies For $3,400 Federal Hybrid Tax Credit
    I want this car to sell so badly. I love Ford and desperately want it to start making money again.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    01/28/09

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid Qualifies For $3,400 Federal Hybrid Tax Credit
    Good on Ford. Now build and sell a butt load of them, pronto.
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    Image of Cognitive Friction Cognitive Friction
    01/28/09

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid Qualifies For $3,400 Federal Hybrid Tax Credit
    The 2010 Fusion, Milan and their respective hybrid models set new standards for technology innovation with 119 U.S. patents.


    ...such as?


    Oh, and for the Google Ads keyword thingy:

    PLASTIC GUN

    COCAINE SHIPMENT

    DEAD HOOKERS

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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    01/28/09

    @Cognitive Friction: Okay, that just gave me a laughing fit that almost ruptured my spleen.


    Thanks, mate, I needed that.

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    Image of TurboWeasel TurboWeasel
    01/28/09

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid Qualifies For $3,400 Federal Hybrid Tax Credit
    You take the hybrid
    And I'll take what Shelby did
    And I'll be a hoonin' afore ye!
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    01/28/09

    @TurboWeasel: You win a heart-clickie and a COTD nomination for that one.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    01/28/09

    @Deartháir lives his life one deleted comma at a time: Likewise. Loch Fusion just ain't as much fun.
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    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    01/28/09

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid Qualifies For $3,400 Federal Hybrid Tax Credit
    I am still waiting on my "I don't drive a car" federal tax credit
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    Image of philipmein philipmein
    01/28/09

    @Jo Schmo *Now with 15% more comma: WAY TO HELP OUT THE ECONOMY!
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    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    01/28/09

    @philipmein: I am working on my Jo Schmo economic bailout package as we speak
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    Image of Graverobber Graverobber
    01/28/09

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid Qualifies For $3,400 Federal Hybrid Tax Credit
    The full tax credit is only available through March 31st. The Fusion Hybrid is stated as being available "Spring 2009" on the Ford web site. That only leaves 12 days in which to buy the car and be eligible for the full credit.


    And that's if you live in a fantasy world where Ford actually made the cars available on the first day of the season, which they won't. This seems like a bit of bait and switch on the part of the Federal Government and Ford.


    That being said, it's a pretty good deal if you are able to put down a deposit for one before the 31st.

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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    01/28/09

    @graverobber: Philip Landrigan Edition: True, but I'm guessing that a $3,400 is big enough to get enough buyers that supply would be short even if Ford is already producing them at max cap. That 41 mpg city is a big number for mid-size car.


    This a hedge against poor press/investor reports that Ford can't keep up with demand on some models while being unable to unload others (like every Explorer built in 2008).

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    Image of Ash78, tryptophanatic Ash78, tryptophanatic
    01/28/09

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid Qualifies For $3,400 Federal Hybrid Tax Credit
    Ford dealer group internal memo:


    Effective immediately, I'm proposing a $3,400 markup on all new Fusion and Milan hybrid models. Management feels that demand for these vehicles will support such a move, at least temporarily.

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    Image of maximum-sienna maximum-sienna
    01/28/09

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid Qualifies For $3,400 Federal Hybrid Tax Credit
    So let me get this right. If I use someone elses money I can buy this car as if it weren't a hybrid. Brilliant!


    Leave it to politicans...
    I want my America back.

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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    01/28/09

    @maximum-sienna: minimum-comma: I'm with you, man, I'm with you. Where do people think that $3400 is coming from? Santa Claus?
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    Image of Ash78, tryptophanatic Ash78, tryptophanatic
    01/28/09

    @engineerd - the comma-free edition: Next you're going to tell me there's no such thing as Obama.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    01/28/09

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid Qualifies For $3,400 Federal Hybrid Tax Credit
    OH BOY! IT-- ...


    Nope, still don't give a fuck.


    Clean diesel? No? Nothing?

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    Image of It's a Camaro It's a Camaro
    01/28/09

    @Deartháir lives his life one deleted comma at a time: A diesel fusion might get marginally better gas mileage than a hybrid, but when it comes to tailpipe emissions and greenhouse gas concentrations, the hybrid wins. Not to say diesel is a bad thing, it certainly is a good solution for cheap mileage increase, but both diesel and hybrid technologies are excellent ideas.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    01/28/09

    @kumbayacars: I've had this argument WAY too many times to re-hash it again, but suffice to say, I don't give two shits about tailpipe emissions. Those of you in major centers can worry about that. I worry about how far a car will take me on a tank of gas at highway speeds, and having a car I can keep until I pass it on to my grandkids. A Hybrid wins at neither.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    01/28/09

    @kumbayacars: OK, here we go again. I'll type slower this time because apparantly some of you can't read very fast.


    Hybrid vehicles, with their batteries, are no cleaner than diesel or even gasoline cars. In order to build the batteries minerals and metals have to be mined (not a pretty sight), processed, transported, etc. All of that takes energy. Where does that energy come from? Coal, diesel, gasoline. And, the mining process is generally not a very eco-friendly process, either. Then, what happens when the batteries are no longer useful? They have to be salvaged and either recycled or trashed. Either way there is more ecological impact in transportation, energy, etc.


    Hybrids are a gimmick. They keep your focus on the vehicle and not the whole story.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    01/28/09

    @Deartháir discusses blown trannies just for Google AdSense: That's fine, but can you define "blown trannies?"
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    01/28/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: I defer to Charles on this matter.


    @engineerd - the comma-free edition: Same applies to ethanol. Like a hybrid, it requires more energy to make it than it saves in its use. Diesel remains the only truly viable option. I know, nay-sayers will try to debunk that, and blah blah blah. For a marginal increase in highway gas mileage, why would you not just swap in a diesel, rather than fucking around installing battery packs, and electric motors, and regenerative brake assemblies...

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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    01/28/09

    @Deartháir discusses blown trannies just for Google AdSense: Yup, I agree with you. Plus, with ethanol, it shows how fucked up our priorities are when we are willing to convert FOOD to FUEL.
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    Image of theeastbaykid theeastbaykid
    01/28/09

    @engineerd - the comma-free edition: Fair enough, but diesels are hardly a perfect environmental solution. Which isn't what Dearthair was after, but it should be noted.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    01/28/09

    @theeastbaykid: Diesel isn't perfect, but it is far better than most forms of energy, particularly for transportation use.


    In the strictest sense, human existence isn't environmentally friendly. So what are we to do?

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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    01/28/09

    @engineerd - the comma-free edition: It would seem to me the best way to get more efficiency out of our cars is to 1. take existing engines and adjust them for low fuel consumption instead of power and 2. CUT WEIGHT. Then the performance decrease would not be as drastic.


    Unfortunately with existing policies, number 2. isn't really possible. Consumer attitudes won't settle for just number 1 either.


    So we'll just have to market the shit out of every half assed solution to make the general public believe its the Messiah on wheels, or we'll actually have to squeeze blood from a stone.

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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    01/28/09

    @engineerd - the comma-free edition: It will be better still if biodiesel-from-algae gets off the ground.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    01/28/09

    @danio3834: You're right. A CRX HF got 50 mpg highway on gas. But that was back before emissions and crash-survivability regs got tighter and people started wanting 6-disc CD changers, power everything, air conditioning, etc.


    I have no problem with people wanting a hybrid for the fuel mileage. If you figure out the economics and it will work for you, great! However, don't try to snowball me with how hybrids are saving the environment because thats a load of bull.


    @Tomsk can park himself, thank you: There are lots of promising alternatives out there, but making them viable is tough. That's why petroleum-based fuels still rule the market. They are easy to get from the ground, refine, distribute, and pretty efficient when used properly.

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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    01/28/09

    @theeastbaykid: Exactly. It's not a perfect solution, however I believe it has the most potential, and is the simplest, most easily-adapted technology that we can use today without having to fuck around with manufacturing batteries and advanced electronics. It is also the most adaptable to alternative fuel options, such as...


    @Tomsk can park himself, thank you: SoylentDiesel FTMFW!

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    01/28/09

    In reply to 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid Qualifies For $3,400 Federal Hybrid Tax Credit
    I hereby dub this the First Hybrid Worth Buying.


    Well, if you like midsize sedans with automatic transmissions and overly-chromed grilles, that is.

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