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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    08:45 AM

    In reply to Wards Ten Best Engines For 2009: A Closer Look
    Why no LS9? That's a fantastic engine. Driven gently, it delivers better fuel mileage in the 'Vette than my Subie ever does. And yes, I drive the Subie gently too. Damn brick.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    08:23 AM

    In reply to Wards Ten Best Engines For 2009: A Closer Look
    Hyundai's V8 is nice and all, but the pair of cylinders closest to the front of the car don't work and play well with others. They'd rather be in a Chinese car.

    The torque range on the ecoBoost blows me away.
    (Project lead) "I want 350 ft-lbs of torque. Can you do that?"
    (Engineer) "Sure. Where on the rev range do you want it?"
    (Waves indistinctly) "Anywhere."
    (Engineer shrugs) "Okey-dokey."
    Also: +1 for timing chains.

    The VW 2.0 Turbo is a fun engine. I drove it. It drives bigger than it is. Yowzah.

    A Chevy getting 32mpg used to be impressive. Now it's Chevy's sport-cute delivering 32mpg, and it's not as small as the sport-cutes used to be. Frankly, I'm damned impressed. My car won't do that, not even close, and it doesn't make nearly as much power, either.
    Damned impressed.
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    Image of VeeArrrSix VeeArrrSix
    12:13 AM

    In reply to Wards Ten Best Engines For 2009: A Closer Look
    No VQ? Wow...
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    02:21 AM

    @VeeArrrSix: Hey, you should be happy. There's three VAG engines in there.
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    12/09/09

    In reply to Wards Ten Best Engines For 2009: A Closer Look
    I must protest. 7 of 10 engines on this list wear hats. I detest engine hats. Especially in an article which is advertised as Engin Pr0n.

    DEATH TO ENGINE HATS!
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    Image of Lost in the age of Aerostar Lost in the age of Aerostar
    03:00 AM

    @DoctorNine: +1,000,000

    but then again, was the last time you saw an engine that looked like this one.....
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    Image of evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars
    03:07 AM

    @Lost in the age of Aerostar: Or this one.
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    Image of JayBrizzle JayBrizzle
    04:26 AM

    @Lost in the age of Aerostar: Yeah that was a sweet ass engine.
    Manufacturer: Yamaha Motor Corporation
    Production: 1989–1995
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    Image of rickerbr rickerbr
    06:14 AM

    @DoctorNine: Actually at least 9/10, both of the VW 4 Cyls have hats, just not pictured with them. The air filter box in in the hat for the 2.0T.
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    07:16 AM

    @DoctorNine: I may have to pick up the DEATH TO ENGINE HATS! battle cry.
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    07:24 AM

    @rickerbr: Yeah, but like all GOOD pr0n artistes, they had the sense to REMOVE them before the photo shoot...
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    07:25 AM

    @JayBrizzle: Makes you feel all squiggly inside, doesn't it?
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    07:34 AM

    @Maymar: Come the revolution.. etc.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    08:31 AM

    @Lost in the age of Aerostar: I was hoping someone would post that. You open the hood and find...a nest of mating metal snakes! Who wouldn't want that in the engine room? Animal lust, harnessed for your personal use!
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    Image of evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars
    12/09/09

    In reply to Wards Ten Best Engines For 2009: A Closer Look
    A Prius hybrid mill is not "engineporn". It's more like engine abstinence
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    12:47 AM

    @evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars: More like deterrent, not just abstinence.
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    12/09/09

    In reply to Wards Ten Best Engines For 2009: A Closer Look
    Anyone who buys a 3-series with an engine other than the diesel is sick in the head? Those are strong words when, by most accounts, the pairing of gas I6s (remember, one's twin-turboed) and the M's V8 are pretty stellar engines, and you can get it with a stick. I mean, as an engine, BMW's diesel makes me weak in the knees (425lb-ft can do strong things to me, especially at 23/36mpg), but the way you have to take it isn't perfect. Now, there's no other engine you should take in an X5 (although you shouldn't take an X5).

    I am disappointed in the ecoweenieism that picked the naturally aspirated Ecotec over the direct injected turbocharged version (which also makes more power and torque than VW's equivalent).
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    Image of VeeArrrSix VeeArrrSix
    12:12 AM

    @Maymar: Not to really disagree with you as the I6 and the I6 TT are absolutely stellar... but a friend of mine just picked up a 335d and took me for a drive recently. The way the torque pushes you back in the seat is mind numbing...
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    07:04 AM

    @VeeArrrSix: Like I said, I agree, it's a fantastic engine, and I don't dispute its place on this list. I'm just disputing the idea that there's something wrong with picking any of the other engines the 3-series offers - although, I would completely rock a diesel 3 with a 6-speed (I'd take a smaller engine if I had to).
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    12/09/09

    In reply to Wards Ten Best Engines For 2009: A Closer Look
    Regarding the S4 powerplant, "... this things a monster." Do you moonlight for Ford PR? I only kid, Ben.

    As for the list, it's not bad (not great, either) although no hybrid makes my list and no way Hyundai makes the world's best V8.

    Now that Subie has solved that pesky banjo bolt issue, I'm thrilled to see their pancake's on the menu.
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    Edited by Alfisted at 12/09/09 11:14 PM Alfisted was starred Alfisted was unstarred
    Image of VeeArrrSix VeeArrrSix
    01:14 AM

    @Alfisted: Mmmmmmm... pancakes.
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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    12/09/09

    In reply to Wards Ten Best Engines For 2009: A Closer Look
    Remember when this list used be about all-around good performance and engineering? When stuff like Buick's 3800, Cadillac's Northstar and the Nissan VQ series made the list every year?

    I'm not sure when Ward's fell victim to the same eco-weenie crap that's taking over the whole fucking world, but I'm sure as hell am not happy about it. I love turbo-fours, diesels and direct injection as much as anybody, I don't know how much longer I can deal with all this plug-in-hybrid, evil man-made carbon emissions will kill us all bullshit that's progressively destroying the car hobby I so dearly love.
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    Image of spuy767 spuy767
    12/09/09

    I'm pissed because I love the VQ and the 3800.
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    If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face promoted this comment spuy767 was starred spuy767 was unstarred
    Image of Jono Jono
    12/09/09

    @If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face: All the best cars have already been made, and no one can take them away from us.
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    If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face promoted this comment Edited by Jono at 12/09/09 11:07 PM Jono was starred Jono was unstarred
    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    12/09/09

    @spuy767: I know! How couldn't you? The VQ just keeps getting better and better. It's equally brilliant in FWD Altimas, the Z car and luxury Infinitis.

    And the 3800, despite being a 40+ year old pushrod, it was easily one of, if not the best V6s on the market up until 2002-2003 or so. 200 horsepower (24o w/supercharger!) and 30 MPG on regular unleaded seemed unbelievable in the '90s, but Buick pulled it off. It wasn't until Nissan and Honda started one-upping each other that the 3800 finally stopped being competitive (and I can't believe GM tried replacing it with that "High Feature" garbage). Still, there's plenty of recent-vintage, 3800-equipped big GM sedans that make good beater highway cruisers. Not bad for a once-unloved, uneven-firing, sawed-off Fireball V8.
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    12/09/09

    @Jono: While I agree with you on the former, Cash for Clunkers proved they sure as hell can take them away.
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    Image of Jono Jono
    12:15 AM

    @If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face: Here in Australia our clunkers may clunk on with impunity, so where the bloody hell are ya!
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    Image of VeeArrrSix VeeArrrSix
    12:16 AM

    @If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face: I sadly sold my Grandma's Park Avenue Ultra for like 3k a few years back at her behest. I drove it for a few weeks and could not believe the combo of power and great mileage. The same things that I love about the VR6 are the same things I loved about the Super 38.
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    Image of Jeb_Hoge Jeb_Hoge
    12/09/09

    In reply to Wards Ten Best Engines For 2009: A Closer Look
    Wow, the Ford hybrid mill makes a net 191hp? That's better than I thought. I need to test one of those.
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    12/09/09

    In reply to Honda CR-Z Brochure Leaks, Reveals Sexy Hybrid Coupe
    Mmm...sexy...
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    Image of Scaramanga Scaramanga
    12/08/09

    In reply to Honda CR-Z Brochure Leaks, Reveals Sexy Hybrid Coupe
    We shouldn't get too worked up about performance numbers, down the road there likely will be "Si" or "Type R" variant. CR-Z is aimed as a mass market vehicle so the base JDM version should be close to the Insight in terms of power output.

    It looks to me the engine is based on a DBA-GE8/GE9 engine mated to an IMA system; which they seem to refer to as the DAA-ZF1. Mugen gets 150ps out the DBA-GE8 and the GE9 makes closer to 120ps in Fit RS, not to mention that the IMA system is fairly modular and could be mated to other more powerful Honda engines as practicality permits.

    If this car gets 58mpg in JC08 testing procedures, the car should be within 1-2mpg of the Insight which gets 61mpg on the same tests. The highway mileage should be close if not identical being that JC08 is very urban heavy. So 40mpg+ should be realistically attainable.

    The real question is price. If this car is noticeably cheaper then the Insight, maybe in $17~19k range, then this car makes a lot of sense. Its slightly faster then the lethargic Insight, lacks 4 doors and utility, but is a sportier, and a more desirable vehicle. At that price it also leaves room for a "Si" model with more pace higher up in the pricing.
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    12/08/09

    In reply to Honda CR-Z Brochure Leaks, Reveals Sexy Hybrid Coupe
    All of you folks carping about the acceleration times are missing the point of the original CRX. It wasn't a drag racer - it was a dinky, moderately-powered, lightweight, danceable sports car that could be rorted around like a go-kart at reasonable speeds. Yes, I said sports car and I meant it. It made even going to the 7-Eleven for a Sunday paper an opportunity for fun. You didn't have to manhandle or wrestle with it to get it to respond - a light touch on the wheels, pedals, and shifter was all that was needed. Ever drive a Sprite, MG Midget, or Spitfire? Or perhaps a first-gen Miata? None of these cars were very hot off the line, yet no-one accuses them of being dull. Ever take one of these on an empty hilly road with lots of tight twisties? Then I think you'll know what I'm talking about. Being able to keep the engine on the cam and tossing the car about without attracting too much unwanted attention. If Honda can keep this spirit in the new CR-Z, then I'll be interested. I'm worried about one thing though - I see no spec for weight. And it's not that tiny - 16 inches longer than the original CRX. I still think Honda should make a version without the hybrid stuff for the would-be autocrossers among us.
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    Image of Jeb_Hoge Jeb_Hoge
    12/08/09

    In reply to Honda CR-Z Brochure Leaks, Reveals Sexy Hybrid Coupe
    Styling by Renault, powertrain by Fisher-Price.
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    Image of Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
    12/08/09

    @Jeb_Hoge: My thoughts went directly to Peugot. . .I still like it though.
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    Edited by Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . at 12/08/09 1:36 PM Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . was starred Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . was unstarred
    Image of GreenN_Gold GreenN_Gold
    12/08/09

    In reply to Honda CR-Z Brochure Leaks, Reveals Sexy Hybrid Coupe
    Honda forgot to ask themselves one important question when they skipped straight from CR-X to CR-Z.

    CR-Why?
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    Image of FormerlyPreferredCustomer FormerlyPreferredCustomer
    12/08/09

    @GreenN_Gold:

    When you said it would be light
    It was a lie, lie, lie.
    Now that we've seen the car
    We're going to CR-Y, CR-Y, CR-Y.
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    Image of MaWeiTao MaWeiTao
    12/08/09

    In reply to Honda CR-Z Brochure Leaks, Reveals Sexy Hybrid Coupe
    The snout is a little odd and the rest of it looks too much like the Insight. I guess it's an improvement over current Hondas, but then again, that isn't saying much.

    This just makes me hope Honda never brings back the Prelude. I don't think I'd be able to handle what they'd do to it.

    As for performance, it's not like the old CR-X was particularly fast either. Although, the CR-Z's competition today is far faster in comparison.
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