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Honda cuts RWD, V8, S2000 replacement programs
Detroit, 12:44 PM
Tue Dec 8
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I had trouble believing that they'd whip out an FR V10 as the NSX replacement. Now I'm absoultely sure they won't. One day, the new NSX will come, but it will be a mid-engined 6.
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A striking parallel, in perhaps more ways than you realize.
Though it was indeed speculation and panic that drove price up so ridiculously high so fast, this was not another "hiccup" in supply that the Oil Embargo was. This time, the simple truth is that we eventually will not be able to produce enough oil to satisfy current demand, let alone projected demand. And when that happens, we may well see the final death throes of the oil industry before it shrinks drastically into a specialty industry focused on providing a comparatively small group enthusiasts like us what we need to keep our old dinosaurs going. The latest "gas crisis" that we experienced in 2008 was little more than the first sign, the first warning, of the eventual coming of the "oilpocalypse".
If your parallel holds true, then the recent moves by Honda, GM, and Toyota may also be but the early warnings of the the true carpocalypse, which will be the end of the car industry as we know it. Let's face it, some exciting cars have been iced as a result of the economic situation, but for the most part, the automotive industry is much the same as it was 60 years ago. Granted we have cars with some new gadgets and doodads, but the basic formula is unchanged.
You think we're freaking out now? Wait until the oilpocalypse finally does hit. Hope that we are all grizzled invalids at that point, because that's about the only way we will enter the new age without kicking and screaming.
As for Honda reverting to toaster engineering a la Toyota, I do agree that it is a bit extreme and perhaps a bit premature, but hey, at least when the time of the true carpocalypse (i.e., then end of cars as we know and love) comes, they will be on their feet and ready to run with it.
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I suggest calling John Hammond to makes some dinosaurs and Will-it-blend guy to turn em into some dinojuice.
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Either that or you could rent it out as a guest house.
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WTF ARE THEY THINKING!?!?
Part of the reason Honda has remained such a strong company was that it made innovative vehicles ebfore the demand was even there (on average, not always, I'm not a fanboy so stuff it).
Someone already mentioned their trucks. Honda should dump most all of that category before ditching their next sport vehicles. Seriously, the NSX and S2000 were two of the only cars I would have considered buying from them (had I the $$), and I've still got some misplaced lust for hatchback CRX's. Something about a screaming 4banger that'll top 140 stock, it gets to me.
While this path is...commendable - you know, the whole efficient/green/BORING route - it seems they've got some amnesia at Honda HQ about how they got where they are today. Like I said, I'm not a Honda fanboy, and I don't know the entire history, but even I can see where this is headed.
And, I'm gonna say it again, BORING. Ugh.
(saving this for my files, so in a coupla years I can say "I TOLD YOU!")
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I'm not a fan of the bloat, but since Accord is Honda's most valuable sub-brand, it should stay in the class where it is right now. It only makes competitive sense. Even if the TSX is the better car, it would probably have to find a home between Civic and Accord. There might be room for sales there--bigger and more refined than a Civic, but sportier than an Accord.
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Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see an incremental shrinking of the Accord, but ultimately a profit-driven company has to stay competitive--not just force purist ideals on the world.
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