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    1962 Hillman Minx Down On The East Bay Street

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    Image of Armand Armand
    11/15/09

    In reply to 1962 Hillman Minx Down On The East Bay Street
    As a Rootes Group nerd (I mean, "enthusiast") I love it, even if the rusted sills look very, very bad for a British unibody car. I'd rather have a Minx wagon, but this will do in a pinch. #rootesgroup
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    11/15/09

    In reply to 1962 Hillman Minx Down On The East Bay Street
    Does anyone know why Loewy would so blatantly copy the 1953-54 Studebaker's design for the Minx? Was there an attempt to sell the Minx in the US through Studebaker dealers? If not, that seems like a lazy thing for a design consultant to do.

    The irony is that the Minx has a better-balanced look than the Studebaker sedans. Although the low-slung Starliner coupes were stunningly beautiful, the sedans were considerably taller -- and downright ugly. #rootesgroup
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    11/15/09

    @DrLemming: There was never any link between Studebaker and the Rootes Group besides their affiliation with Loewy and a little legal wrangling over who had the trademark to the name "Hawk." The lack of stylistic differentiation between the Minx and the Studebakers does seem lazy on Loewy's part, but it wasn't unique. Pininfarina used pretty much the same design for the Peugeot 404, Lancia Flaminia and Austin Westminster, and Bertone's small '60s sedans for Datsun and Mazda looked an awful lot like their Alfas. #rootesgroup
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    11/15/09


    @Armand: Also, the big Fiat 1800/2300 shared the same styling concept as the 404 and BMC Farinas. As for the Bertone connection between the Alfa Romeo and the Mazda, the Mazda 1500/1800 body was originally intended for the 1967 Alfa 1750. Alfa turned it down, so Bertone sold the style to Mazda, and it doesn't look like a lot of changes were made. #rootesgroup
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    Image of MadHungarian MadHungarian
    11/15/09

    @DrLemming: The Vauxhalls of the time looked like shrunken '58 Chevys. English Fords looked like various American Fords left in the dryer too long. Over in Germany, NSU was blatantly ripping off the '60 Corvair. The US was the style leader. So Loewy worked with what he knew. He was not the only designer of the time to recycle his themes for another company. The '64 Imperial shares some lines with the '61 Lincoln for a reason. #rootesgroup
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    11/15/09

    In reply to 1962 Hillman Minx Down On The East Bay Street
    I like the paint, and in general I like little cars that look like shrunken land barges, but you'll always be the only minx for me, Murilee.

    /mouthbreathing creepiness #rootesgroup
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    11/15/09

    In reply to 1962 Hillman Minx Down On The East Bay Street
    Can't argue with that two-tone paint job. Just perfect. And four cylinders looks about right for that critter. The rear looks like a 1960 Mercury, the front--old Ford? And all shrunk down to a handy traveling size. I'll take two. #rootesgroup
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    Image of Mr. M Mr. M
    11/15/09

    @Novaload: Probably fits nicely in the trunk of a Fairlane... #rootesgroup
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    11/15/09


    @Novaload: Apparently the two-tone paint job was known by Hillman as "The Gay Look". #rootesgroup
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    11/16/09

    @Lounge Singer Chamois: The people certainly look happy enough, but where are they, Morocco? #rootesgroup
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    09/27/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    Honestly, the Renault 5 is a mistake. The two generations share nothing other than a resemblance in design.
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    10/09/09

    @Instructor: The first gen R5 was built in Iran until 2000. Parts of it were still in production in 2006 as the Pars Khondro Sepand P.K. (on a Kia Pride chassis, no less).
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    Image of BlueBomb BlueBomb
    09/09/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    Crown Victoria? Lincoln Town Car? Bodies updated, chassis/engines the same 1990-present.
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/09/09

    @BlueBomb: No, major rear suspension redesign in '98.
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    Image of Drachen Drachen
    09/08/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    Hey Murilee, just in case you haven't thrown your laptop against the wall in frustration, I have another candidate for Part II: The Lotus Esprit, produced from 1976 to.... what? A week ago yesterday? :-)

    Maybe you need another list (who knows, you might be a masochist) of "Longest running exotics". Surely the Pantera and Esprit would be near the top of the list, along with the Countach, Diablo and Jaguar E-type. Of course, some clown would STILL want the Jeep CJ on the list. :-)
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/08/09

    @Drachen: The Pantera is in Part II for sure. Still not sure about the Esprit- it went through many changes during its thousand-year run.
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    Image of BLeyland BLeyland
    09/08/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    Because it seems there’s not enough people trying to make you bang your head against the wall Murilee, why don’t you try taking a look at some of the 20+ year runs of some Bristol models?
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    Image of skitter skitter
    09/08/09

    @BLeyland: I was just searching their terribly limited pool of information. Basically, a continuous chassis needs to be confirmed between the Brigand/Britannia (603 S3) and Blenheim (603 S4). This seems quite plausible, and the even more likely 603-603 S3 link would just be showing off. As it stands, each just seems to be a mild restyle and rename, with a few variables in drivetrain and suspension.
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    Image of unicmanest unicmanest
    09/08/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    Sorry, but world's "oldest" car made in same factory and assembly line is VAZ 2121 Niva. First car came 1977 and still in production. 32 years, no other car can't beat that record. IF, it can be M-B G-Wagen.

    Wikipedia:
    The Niva (2121) was Lada's (VAZ/AvtoVAZ) first non-Fiat based model. Much of its mechanicals are carried over from the Fiat based Lada models, though the body, four-wheel drive system, and front suspension were designed by Lada. Production began in 1977 and continues today (as of 2008) with only minor changes to the engine, rear hatch design, and interior trim levels.
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/09/09

    @unicmanest: The Niva seems to be more of a truck than a car, but maybe.
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    Image of 2trips 2trips
    09/08/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    error 404: Peugeot not found
    also, the mk2 passat was called the "quantum" here in the states
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    Murilee Martin promoted this comment Edited by 2trips at 09/08/09 2:58 PM 2trips was starred 2trips was unstarred
    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/08/09

    @2trips: The Peugeot 404 is on the list.

    The photo of the MK2 Passat is taken from this Jalopnik Quantum post.
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    Image of justsomereportingguy justsomereportingguy
    09/08/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    it holds first place but im a little disappointed that you didn't count the Beetle as running thru present day. I will accept it due to a serious lack of interchangeability between the New & Old Beetle. The distinctive body is still essentially the same however.
    And yes (as I am sure a few realized by reading the article) you could have same production year New & Old beetles sitting in your driveway if you knew where to find an old beetle dealer!
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    09/08/09

    @justsomereportingguy: Hey, there have been half a dozen distinct Mustangs, but they've all been sporty RWD two-doors!

    I do respect the New Jettle, but it's not the same at all (aside from the shape and the budvase).
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/08/09

    @justsomereportingguy: Serious lack of interchangeabillity? They're as different as two vehicles can be!
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    09/08/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    I was going to type a bunch of stuff, but UDMan already covered it.

    Carry on.
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    Image of NathaniaDenby NathaniaDenby
    09/08/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    Sorry to say it, but you have missed the Morgan 4/4. It was initially built in 1936, and barring the years during the war has been built every day since. They are still available new, just not in the U.S. where safety restrictions prevent it being imported, or so I last read.
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/08/09

    @NathaniaDenby: All right, the 4/4 will be in Part II. It's kind of a special case, but what the hell.
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    Image of UnwinShako UnwinShako
    09/08/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    Miata. Ford Ranger.
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/08/09

    @UnwinShako: No. No. RTFA.
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    Image of ndhapple ndhapple
    09/08/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    Even with those stipulations are you sure the Crown Vic doesn't make that list? I can't think of a substantial upgrade to the Panther platform has received, and it still has that 4.6L Modular V8 from 1992.
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/08/09

    @ndhapple: Most pre-92 Panther chassis components won't fit my '97 P71, plus the rear suspension had a major revision for the '98 model year (19 years after the first Panther cars).
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