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    2010 Nissan GT-R To Lose Troublesome Launch Control
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    11/20/08

    In reply to 2010 Nissan GT-R To Lose Troublesome Launch Control
    Call me crazy, but if it has AWD, does it really need launch control?
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    Image of Graverobber Graverobber
    11/20/08

    In reply to 2010 Nissan GT-R To Lose Troublesome Launch Control
    In related news; Chrysler, facing its own warranty nightmares, has announced that they will no longer be selling vehicles with transmissions.
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/20/08

    In reply to 2010 Nissan GT-R To Lose Troublesome Launch Control
    Excellent. Everything is proceeding as I had foreseen!
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    11/20/08

    In reply to 2010 Nissan GT-R To Lose Troublesome Launch Control
    I read somewhere that clutch replacements on the GT-R necessitate the replacement of the entire transmission. So a spent clutch costs the same as a mashed gear...a lot.
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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    11/20/08

    In reply to 2010 Nissan GT-R To Lose Troublesome Launch Control
    So if I understand this correctly, the launch control puts undue stress on the tranny because the AWD has such great traction, thus putting all the strain on the drivetrain, while almost all of the "lesser" competitors allow wheelspin which, while resulting in slower times, also prevents the tranny from exploding.
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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    11/20/08

    In reply to 2010 Nissan GT-R To Lose Troublesome Launch Control
    I could definetely see the warranty pain for Nissan. They engineered a specific feature into the car that if the owner uses, they void the warranty.


    While racing and hard driving can be part of any sports car ownership, in this case I could see how owners would argue that Nissan gave them the gun to shoot themselves with.


    Its probably been giving them legal difficulties in arbitration.

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    Image of Boosted Lego Wagon Boosted Lego Wagon
    11/20/08

    In reply to 2010 Nissan GT-R To Lose Troublesome Launch Control
    I suppose this proves that there's no such thing in this world as a free launch.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/20/08

    In reply to 2010 Nissan GT-R To Lose Troublesome Launch Control
    So now without the electronannies to keep your car pointed something like straight down the quarter, the only thing you void is your bowels when the torque pops the wheels loose and the horizon rises to smack down your premature fantasies of racer fame as you hurtle sideways into infinity.


    Wait, Infiniti? No, okay.

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    Image of patrickmurray patrickmurray
    11/20/08

    In reply to 2010 Nissan GT-R To Lose Troublesome Launch Control
    It's funny how many people were so quick to say the R35 was the best automobile produced by anyone ever when it first came out, that are now lined up saying "it's a POS, you should've just bought a REAL car"


    Maybe if Nissan had someone build them an old fashioned manual trans, it would take the abuse better.

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    Image of acarr260 acarr260
    11/20/08

    @patrickmurray: Let's start a company that swaps their fancy transmission with Muncie Rock Crusher 4-speeds!
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    Image of Cognitive Friction Cognitive Friction
    11/20/08

    In reply to 2010 Nissan GT-R To Lose Troublesome Launch Control
    "It'll make the 2009 GT-R really special. It'll be the only R35 with launch control."


    And if you believe that, I've got some swamp land in Florida I'd like to sell you

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    Image of jbownsabmw- Koopas Beware jbownsabmw- Koopas Beware
    11/20/08

    In reply to 2010 Nissan GT-R To Lose Troublesome Launch Control
    Does this make the Cobalt SS Turbo more advanced than the GT-R. It has a launch control that doesn't torpedo the tranny.
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    Image of elwood elwood
    11/20/08

    @jb carries a sign proclaiming Repent! The endtime is nigh!: No, it just means the Cobalt SS Turbo makes low enough power that it's not a problem for the transmission.
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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    11/20/08

    @elwood: You'd think that for the proportional price difference, there would be hardware engineered to handle the proportionate power increase.
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    Image of elwood elwood
    11/20/08

    @danio3834: Well, for a race car, the transmission is a consumable. If you treat your car like a race car (i.e. launch control), why would you be surprised when it breaks?
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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    11/20/08

    @elwood: Definetely true, I'm not sure that many people are truly surprised that abuse of the system has resulted in breakage. Its just that until now, manufacturers really didn't have a way of proving you were racing your car. They knew, but coudln't prove, so they'd cover it.


    I don't think anyone would care about the issue if Nissan was covering the transmissions. The driver knew what he was doing, the dealer techs knew what happened, but in most cases in the past, stuff would get covered, and owners would be happy.


    Now Nissan has a tattler built in that can confirm to the manufacturer exactly what kind of abuse was going on and theyre using it to give the customer the big FU.


    IMO, Nissan should have better covered their ass by not including the self destruct mode as an option, or having a better plan to deal with broken transmissions as they came.


    Now, it just looks like a black eye on them.

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    Image of General Halfshaftery General Halfshaftery
    11/20/08

    In reply to 2010 Nissan GT-R To Lose Troublesome Launch Control
    I also suffer from launch control problems, typically after a night of excessive alcohol consumption.
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    Image of LTDScott LTDScott
    11/20/08

    @General Halfshaftery: The GT-R suffers from whiskey diff.
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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    11/20/08

    In reply to 2010 Nissan GT-R To Lose Troublesome Launch Control
    See? This is why we can't have nice things.
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    Image of layabout layabout
    11/20/08

    In reply to 2010 Nissan GT-R To Lose Troublesome Launch Control
    Oh not the old Porsche chestnut already......
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