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FTGDWolverineEdition'09
11/19/09

In reply to ABT Golf VI GTD: Lord Vader, Your Euro-Trash Hipster Son's Car Has Arrived

Why does every car these days have to shout "look at me?" I do miss discreet performance. Maybe I am getting old.

Some simple style to balance out the ABT Golf.
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DoctorNine
11/19/09

In reply to ABT Golf VI GTD: Lord Vader, Your Euro-Trash Hipster Son's Car Has Arrived
This car definitely has a good chance of inhabiting my garage. I have a couple boys that think it's teh sex.
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bzr
11/19/09

In reply to ABT Golf VI GTD: Lord Vader, Your Euro-Trash Hipster Son's Car Has Arrived
Nah, Ben's kidding. Hipsters don't know anything about cars. That's why they plaster their grandma's '92 Camry with Conor Oberst stickers.
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Cvilletallman
11/20/09

@bzr: Don't forget the bike rack, loaded down with fixies, all of which have "One Less Car" stickers on them.
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jbh11126
11/19/09

In reply to ABT Golf VI GTD: Lord Vader, Your Euro-Trash Hipster Son's Car Has Arrived
That body kit and paint job is writing a check the performance can't cash.

If I pulled up next to this thing at a light I'd be fooled into thinking that so much exterior upgrading must mean he's got some real nice engine goodies.

Then I'd smoke him in my roomates Neon SXT.
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rickerbr
11/19/09

@jbh11126: Not sure why I am feeding the trolls, but a Neon SXT 0-60 per allpar.com is either 8.1 or 7.9. A gas GTI stock is 200hp, so a tuned GTD at 190 should perform similarly (especially when you factor in the torque increase). A GTI without x-diff does 0-60 stock in the mid 6s (low 6s with DSG). Not sure if the diesels get x-diff, but either way I don't see how the neon is going to make up the 1.5 second difference.....

This isn't your 1977 47hp rabbit diesel with the 3+1 gearbox.
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jbh11126
11/19/09

@rickerbr: Ok guys FINE.

I guess this might maybe be quicker than my roomate's neon. Maybe.

You folks may have forgotten that the SXT model is special because it comes with a factory spoiler.

This spoiler in fact brings wheel horsepower up to around 400.

It also automatically takes 3 seconds of the 0-60 time.

#tips
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brandegee
11/19/09

Threadjack: VW, where is our Golf diesel trucklet?
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DoctorNine
11/19/09

@jbh11126: Ummm... not really. I think you may need a little refresher on that physics from high school. Low end easily beats it. Top end may have a race, depending on gearing. But no one is driving around on surface streets at 140MPH. Unless you are auditioning to be the new sex toy in the local pokey.
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jbh11126
11/19/09

@DoctorNine: Well I drive 140 everywhere I go, on the dot.

So it helps me a lot.
#tips
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Ford Tempo Fanatic
11/19/09

In reply to ABT Golf VI GTD: Lord Vader, Your Euro-Trash Hipster Son's Car Has Arrived
Well I suppose this could be considered an improvement over the Ford Tempo Diesel's 52HP.
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brandegee
11/19/09

@Ford Tempo Fanatic: Yes, but which car will still be running after the EMP wars?
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Ford Tempo Fanatic
11/19/09

@brandegee: Without the slightest doubt in my mind, the Tempo. Actually, I wouldn't be too surprised if the only vehicle to survive the apocolypse is in fact, the diesel-powered Tempo.
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Ash78, tryptophanatic
11/19/09

In reply to ABT Golf VI GTD: Lord Vader, Your Euro-Trash Hipster Son's Car Has Arrived
I almost love it, but VW did most of the work. That's both good and bad.

I know it's sacrilege, but I really like the looks of the 4-door Golfs more than the 2-door (in the MkV and MkVI versions). Makes the car more competitive with the MS3, as well.
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brandegee
03/27/09

In reply to Volkswagen Golf GTD: GTI Style With Diesel Economy
VW would have an easy time selling this in the States if they advertised it as the GiT'er Done edition.
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Six Flags Over Tomsk
03/27/09

@brandegee: Lord, I apologize for helpin' to sell some little commie Yur-a-peein' car...

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Archon
03/27/09

In reply to Volkswagen Golf GTD: GTI Style With Diesel Economy
27,000 Euros? Isn't that around $55k?

It's a nice package, but anywhere over 30 and it's going to be a hard sell in the states.
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Deartháir II
03/27/09

@Archon: Sorry... that slapping noise you heard was a collective ::facepalm::

As pointed out above, the only way to figure on pricing for a car released internationally is to compare it to a model in that country that is available in the US, figure an approximate percentage difference between the models, and apply that percentage difference to the price of the US model. Got it? Good.
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Boosted Lego Wagon
03/27/09

In reply to Volkswagen Golf GTD: GTI Style With Diesel Economy
GTD? Well, it's better than getting charged with GTA or breaking your GTR, but it's no GTI, let alone a GTO or GTB. But then again you could daily drive it with a GTV or GTX in the garage and you'd be GTG.
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Deartháir II
03/27/09

@boosted-lego-wagon: That made my brain hurty. Do it again, but slower. And with pictures. Can you use flipcharts or powerpoints?
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B1663R
03/27/09

In reply to Volkswagen Golf GTD: GTI Style With Diesel Economy
FUCK!! i was all set to order the new GTI, now i have to wait till April to see if there is word that this will come out within a year stateside.

if it does, and is the same price as the GTI, then I'll get this instead... diesel is cheaper in Canada then regular gas, often offering 3 cents per liter off with the purchase of 100 liters, hope it can hold 3 jerry cans in the hatch!
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mschuplin
03/27/09

In reply to Volkswagen Golf GTD: GTI Style With Diesel Economy
This really pisses me off, why cant GM or Ford sell diesel's in America? The 2009 Saab 9-3 with a 1.9 turbo diesel is clean, and gets an USA equivlent of 44.4MPG on the highway. But you cant buy it in the US! Europe, Austrailia, but not here! The new BMW 335d only gets 36 on the highway, and its the same size. Same with the diesel versions of the cadillac BLS, and Opel Insignia. If they sold those I would buy one right away. If they want to make saab a moneymaker and competitive, they could go the diesel approach and take on the BMW and Volkswagan head to head.
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FTGDWolverineEdition'09
03/27/09

@mschuplin: Cuz it takes too much money to certify diesels for U.S, the mfrs just can't be bothered. However, there are a slew of diesels waiting just around the corner. They will come. Eventually.
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Six Flags Over Tomsk
03/27/09

@Formerlythegreatestdriver: Just in time for CARB to enact a law saying all internal combustion engines must have spark plugs and run on gasoline.
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Saboth
03/27/09

In reply to Volkswagen Golf GTD: GTI Style With Diesel Economy
That's some peppy performance for that gas mileage...that's hybrid territory as far as mpg, but 2 seconds off the 0-60. Now, does anyone know of VW's *abyssmal* reliability has gone up over the past few years?
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Ash78, tryptophanatic
03/27/09

@Saboth: I could talk about VW reliability for days, but it's YMMV.

For most of the crew on this blog, basic-intermediate DIY ability negates about 80% of the hassles and costs associated with the popular reputation. For your average hands-off appliance driver, I'd be reluctant to recommend one.
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The Black Bottle
03/27/09

@Saboth: As a manufacturer they were 13th out of 28 in last year's UK JD Power Survey and the Golf came 30th out of 100 in the 'model' survey.
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Ash78, tryptophanatic
03/27/09

@The Black Bottle: They always seem to do quite a bit better in UK/European surveys than here in the States. My only guesses are that they don't hold up as well against the higher average mileage, lower maintenance expectations, and terrible road quality on this side of the pond.

But they're a LOT better than they were 10 years ago.
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beercheck
03/27/09

In reply to Volkswagen Golf GTD: GTI Style With Diesel Economy
Game Time Decision.

Story of my life.
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aSoundofSleep-less nights
03/27/09

In reply to Volkswagen Golf GTD: GTI Style With Diesel Economy
My Volkswagen has a GTD and it gave my girlfriend a GTI.
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engineerd
03/27/09

@aSoundofF*cking: Yes, but to do so you got to live up to your username.
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SirNotAppearing
03/27/09

@f*cking engineerd: By that logic I must be clean!
"Hey, do you know anybody with AIDS? No? Good, 'cause you know me!"
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Ash78, tryptophanatic
03/27/09

In reply to Volkswagen Golf GTD: GTI Style With Diesel Economy
I'd take this over the GTI (at the same price point). This used to be called "GT TDI," a trim that never made it to the US.
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NewbiusMaximus
03/27/09

@Ash78: I wouldn't. Diesels put up big torque numbers but they're lacking in acceleration.
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SirNotAppearing
03/27/09

@NewbiusMaximus: But think of the stumps you could pull, or the trailer you could haul, and make F150 owners feel slightly embarrassed.
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Ash78, tryptophanatic
03/27/09

@NewbiusMaximus: I'm more a user of "in-gear acceleration" and love to drive around at 1,500rpm without bogging the engine--which the diesel does well. I absolutely love the 2.0t engine, but it's got a little different character to it.

I don't think I've actually done 0-60 in real life in at least a year. But 20-40, 60-80.....all the time.
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Parramore
03/27/09

@Ash78: @boot shrew: I still don't fully understand how the guys on Top Gear (or two of them anyway) seem to have such an aversion to diesels in a country full of them, unless it's the 0-60 performance aspect. I always think about Clarkson when I hear someone complain of no passenger diesels in America.
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Ash78, tryptophanatic
03/27/09

@parramore64: Part of it is "grass is greener". Another part of it is market penetration. A few years ago, diesels hit the 50% mark for passenger cars in the UK. And most of those were the much more economical, anemic diesels--not the more performance-oriented versions like VW and BMW offer now.

The tech has changed a lot in the past few years, so perception always lags--especially in a place where most diesels are bought solely for economic reasons.
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