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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    11/06/09

    In reply to Lutz To Chair Opel Supervisory Board
    Dear Europe,
    We're so very sorry. We had no idea that letting him win that publicity 'race' could lead to this.

    Your embarrassed American Jalopnik cousins #boblutz
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    Image of Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
    11/03/09

    In reply to GM Board Says, "Screw It, We're Keepin' Opel"
    Finally, after a long list of stupid fuckups, GM's board makes a good decision. Opel already has platforms used across the world. It is far too integrated into GM globally. Now the only thing to do is to integrate it into GM NA.
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    Edited by Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . at 11/03/09 10:18 PM Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . was starred Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . was unstarred
    Image of stevecmh stevecmh
    11/03/09

    In reply to GM Board Says, "Screw It, We're Keepin' Opel"
    great news..... I am glad they are keeping this over say Saturn.. Opel is a big part of their cars... Too bad they will not bring Opel to America.... I guess we will get them as Buicks. #opel
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    Image of theallpowerfulme (living waters church of subaru; elder) theallpowerfulme (living waters church of subaru; elder)
    11/03/09

    @stevecmh: you're joking right... sans sky, every saturn is a rebadged opel #opel
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    brandegee promoted this comment theallpowerfulme (living waters church of subaru; elder) was starred theallpowerfulme (living waters church of subaru; elder) was unstarred
    Image of brandegee brandegee
    11/03/09

    @theallpowerfulme (living waters church of subaru; elder): And until recently, some Saabs. And didn't the Sky/Solstice become an Opel GT? #opel
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    Image of stevecmh stevecmh
    11/03/09

    @theallpowerfulme (living waters church of subaru; elder): I just think Opel has nicer cars.. They are behind the New Lacrosse and Regal.. which are probably the two best Midsize GM cars in the US. Saturn was just a Re-badge brand... (Buick is being that too).. but i would more rather Keep Opel the originator of the the cars.. Than Saturn. #opel
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    Image of LegendaryC LegendaryC
    11/03/09

    In reply to GM Board Says, "Screw It, We're Keepin' Opel"
    Honestly I thought killing Pontiac before Saturn was as crazy as they could get but this..... #opel
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    Image of ummagumma82 ummagumma82
    11/03/09

    @LegendaryC: Over the past few years GM, in their infinite wisdom, has been cutting ties with everyone who knows how to make small cars (Subaru, Toyota, Suzuki). They're basically just down to Opel, unless you count Daewoo (one word: Aveo) or North America (the people responsible for the Cavalier and Cobalt).

    So keeping it does make sense, assuming they actually take advantage of Opel's small car expertise, like Ford is doing with their European division. I do wonder how much more bailout money GM is going to need, though. #opel
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    Image of skierpage skierpage
    11/04/09

    @ummagumma82: Even with the planned sale of 55% of Opel to Magna Group (backed by Sberbank of Russia mafia oligarch commies) and 10% to German unions, GM would have continued to own 35% of Opel, continued to share engineering work, etc. #opel
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    Image of homeslice60148 homeslice60148
    11/03/09

    In reply to GM Board Says, "Screw It, We're Keepin' Opel"
    So all Saturn dealerships become Opel dealerships, and all Pontiac dealerships become Holden dealerships, right guys?

    Guys?

    Where'd you go? #opel
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    Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet promoted this comment homeslice60148 was starred homeslice60148 was unstarred
    Image of Kraakmo Kraakmo
    11/03/09

    In reply to GM Board Says, "Screw It, We're Keepin' Opel"
    I created an account just to reply to this post....
    Kill Saturn, Keep Opel... DUH! Please remind me what Saturn has brought to the table?! Nothing!
    Opel is the main competition for GM against the Other Deutsches-Amerikanishes Auto, Ford from Köln (Mondeo, Fiesta, Focus anyone?)... Whos German Engineers have produced vehicles that have BMW like characteristics for a fraction of the cost...
    Opel has the same potential to deliver the same quality products for GM with their own German Engineers in Rüsselheim.
    Without Opel, 2010 Lacrosse does not exist: and it's one of the best looking cars GM will ever produce.... #opel
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    Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est promoted this comment FTGDWolverineEdition'09 approved this comment Kraakmo was starred Kraakmo was unstarred
    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    11/03/09

    @Kraakmo: And furthermore, without Opel GM would be stone dead in Europe - like Chrysler... #opel
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    11/03/09

    @Kraakmo: Ding ding ding ding. We have a winner. #opel
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    Image of ProstWest ProstWest
    11/03/09

    In reply to GM Board Says, "Screw It, We're Keepin' Opel"
    Tomorrow: Roger Penske's dog is buying Opel! #opel
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    Image of PHIL PHIL
    11/03/09

    @ProstWest: Opel has Bat Boy's love child!

    Bob Lutz's predictions for the apocolypse!

    Fritz Henderson divorce shocker!!#opel
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    area_educator promoted this comment Edited by PHIL at 11/03/09 7:55 PM PHIL was starred PHIL was unstarred
    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/03/09

    In reply to GM Board Says, "Screw It, We're Keepin' Opel"
    Uh... yay? #opel
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    11/03/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: We shall see but it isn't bad news. #opel
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    Image of KeyserSoze KeyserSoze
    11/03/09

    In reply to GM Board Says, "Screw It, We're Keepin' Opel"
    Since they're keeping it, Opel's going to need a new logo, I'm thinking something with wings perhaps. #opel
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    11/03/09

    @rligeti: Maybe more a cat, with eight lives left. #opel
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    Image of KeyserSoze KeyserSoze
    11/03/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: BWAHAHA!!! LMAO. #opel
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    Image of emg77 emg77
    11/03/09

    In reply to GM Board Says, "Screw It, We're Keepin' Opel"
    Yeah, now they can continue the cycle
    Step 1 - Re-vitalize Oldsmobile
    Step 2 - Kill Oldsmobile, Re-vitalize Saturn and move upmarket to replace Oldsmobile. Bring Opel models over and re-badge as Saturns
    Step 3 - Kill Saturn, Re-vitalize Buick and move downmarket to appeal to Buick owners, as well as former Oldsmobile, Saturn, and Pontiac owners. Bring Opel models over and re-badge as Buicks.
    Step 4....

    That being said, I do like Opel, and I bought an Astra and love the car. I'm glad they kept it in the GM family. I think Holden and Opel are producing some of the most appealing products GM has. I just wish we could get more of them here in the States. And I wish people would buy the "less americanized models.". You know the ones with sport suspensions, good firm handling, stick shifts, diesel engine options, hatchback body styles, and # of cupholders that don't outnumber the occupant capacity of the vehicle.
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    Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet promoted this comment Edited by emg77 at 11/03/09 6:25 PM emg77 was starred emg77 was unstarred
    Image of HiramJahoovafat HiramJahoovafat
    11/03/09

    In reply to GM Board Says, "Screw It, We're Keepin' Opel"

    Will we see some new Wuling mini trucks brought over from GM-China in the near future?

    Bring on the Wuling Double Cab Pickup - the advertising slogan will be

    "Wuling Trucks - 0.8-Liter 'Wortec' Power
    "Wuling Trucks - Like a Wok..." #opel
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    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    11/03/09

    @HiramJahoovafat: I would buy one of these over any GM product offered over here. And not even strictly because I can't justify spending more than $10K on a new car.

    "Like a Wok" would make a spectacular slogan. LMAO etc. #opel
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    Image of lilwillie lilwillie
    11/03/09

    In reply to GM Board Says, "Screw It, We're Keepin' Opel"
    Did they get permission to keep their old toy? #opel
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    11/03/09

    In reply to GM Board Says, "Screw It, We're Keepin' Opel"
    The best part of the press release for me:
    "General Motors acquired operations from General Motors Corporation on July 10, 2009, and references to prior periods in this and other press materials refer to operations of the old General Motors Corporation. More information on the new General Motors can be found at www.gm.com." #opel
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    Image of philibuster philibuster
    11/03/09

    @FTGDWolverineEdition'09: Awesome. It's such a meta statement. #opel
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    11/03/09

    @FTGDWolverineEdition'09: Not only does GM get bailed out, it gets absolved of all sins, imaginary and real. Oh, and its global sales network remains intact. #opel
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    11/03/09

    In reply to GM Board Says, "Screw It, We're Keepin' Opel"
    ?? Did Kim Jong Il, the poster boy for consistent leadership, step in for Henderson while I wasn't watching? #opel
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    Edited by Alfisted at 11/03/09 5:55 PM Alfisted was starred Alfisted was unstarred
    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    11/03/09

    In reply to GM Board Says, "Screw It, We're Keepin' Opel"
    Well this was pretty much a no-brainer. Without Opel, GM is pretty much done as a major manufacturer in Europe (yeah, they've still got all those Korean Chevys, but those aren't impressing anyone) and cuts off the new product pipeline for Buick. I can't believe it took them this long to figure that out. #opel
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