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    GM Not Canceling Flint Volt Engine Plant, Just Construction Contracts

    GM Delays Volt, Cruze Engine Plant Due To Carpocalypse

    GM Officially Announces 1.4-liter Four-Cylinder For Chevy Cruze, Volt To Be Built In Flint, MI

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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    01/28/09

    In reply to GM Not Canceling Flint Volt Engine Plant, Just Construction Contracts
    I've come to the conclusion that ever piece of PR coming out of GM is now 100% bullshit that will be completely reversed by the next press release. Of course that press release will also be bullshit.


    Sometimes I hope they just go bankrupt. I'm sick of their crap.

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    01/28/09

    @FromaBuick6: GIVE ME BACK MY GOD DAMN COMMAS!
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    01/28/09

    In reply to GM Not Canceling Flint Volt Engine Plant, Just Construction Contracts
    Hey let's just build 'em in a toolshed instead!
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    01/28/09

    @FluffyPushbroom: Well I'll be goddamned it DOES eat your fucking commas!
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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    01/28/09

    In reply to GM Not Canceling Flint Volt Engine Plant, Just Construction Contracts
    Comma comma comma comma chameleons
    They come and go
    They come and go


    Writing would be easy if my clauses we like a child
    Short dumb and wild
    Short dumb and wild

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    Image of bobwilson1977 bobwilson1977
    01/28/09

    In reply to GM Not Canceling Flint Volt Engine Plant, Just Construction Contracts
    I hope that engine is easier to work on than the Prius engine. I just changed the PCV valve in my Wife's 02' Prius and unlike most cars where it just sits on top of the valve cover within easy reach the one on hers was buried underneath tons of crap and also required the removal of the whole windshield wiper system and pan below it.
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    Image of Feds Feds
    01/28/09

    @bobwilson1977:


    Welcome to car maintanance in the new century. Try changing the serpentine belt on a Chevy Equinox. Can you say "remove engine mount raise engine"? I knew that you could.

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    01/28/09

    @Feds: I blame the Chinese for that. Because I can.
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    01/28/09

    In reply to GM Not Canceling Flint Volt Engine Plant, Just Construction Contracts
    In response to GM pulling the contracts to build an engine plant "comma" Jalopnik has decided to pull all "commas" from comments.
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    Image of acarr260 acarr260
    01/28/09

    @maximum-sienna: uninspiring utility. Now in pearl white.: Cost savings are a real bitch sometimes. How much were those commas costing the site anyway?? They must have unionized...
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    01/28/09

    @maximum-sienna: uninspiring utility. Now in pearl white.: Woohoo Now I can blame my run-on sentences on Jalopnik. Years from now I'll still be claiming the punctuation is screwed up on Jalopnik pushing my punctuation errors onto someone else.
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    Image of Graverobber Graverobber
    01/28/09

    In reply to GM Not Canceling Flint Volt Engine Plant, Just Construction Contracts
    Wait (comma) they're canceling construction of the plant (comma) but are still planning to build the engine there (question mark) I don't know if Flint Michigan is the most appropriate venue for an alfresco engine facility (period)
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    01/28/09

    @graverobber: Philip Landrigan Edition: Clever(comma) very clever(period).
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    01/28/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: I was just thinking that I would do the same thing on my next post (exclamation mark)


    Now (comma) where did I put my copy of Brathwaite (period)

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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    01/28/09

    In reply to GM Not Canceling Flint Volt Engine Plant, Just Construction Contracts
    That engine is just so cute I just want to pinch its little PCV hose. I bet you could just lift it out of the car and put it on your bench for servicing.
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    Image of mikedrawcar mikedrawcar
    01/28/09

    @Ash78: careful you might be accused of dragon-like pedophilia.
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    01/28/09

    @Ash78: Pressure Control Valve? Packed cell volume? Positive Crankcase Ventilation? Peace Corps Volunteer? Pony Club Victoria? Powered Combat Vest? Partido Comunista de Venezuela?
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    01/28/09

    @bmoredlj: Sí la última. Viva Chavez!
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    Image of theeastbaykid theeastbaykid
    12/17/08

    In reply to GM Delays Volt, Cruze Engine Plant Due To Carpocalypse
    "The construction of the new plant is not going to interrupt our plans for the Volt or Cruze." Is there a Vegas line on that one yet?
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    Image of stevecmh stevecmh
    12/17/08

    In reply to GM Delays Volt, Cruze Engine Plant Due To Carpocalypse
    shame.... i really want this car to come.
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    Image of Miscellanea Miscellanea
    12/17/08

    @stevecmh: I hear it leaves behind a puddle of water while you lay there in shame. But hey, it loves you, right?
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    12/17/08

    In reply to GM Delays Volt, Cruze Engine Plant Due To Carpocalypse
    Michael Moore just died a little inside...again.
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    Image of Cognitive Friction Cognitive Friction
    12/17/08

    @Corvette_Thunder Can Haz a Bailout now?: Actually that was just indigestion...loneliness and cheeseburgers are a dangerous mix
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    Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn
    12/17/08

    @Corvette_Thunder Can Haz a Bailout now?: ...and just like a dinosaur, it'll take a while before said information makes it to his brain. If any.
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    Image of Graverobber Graverobber
    12/17/08

    In reply to GM Delays Volt, Cruze Engine Plant Due To Carpocalypse
    So GM is going to hold the Volt hostage over the bailout money, while Ford will be popping out Fusion Hybrids and enjoying that warm, cozy feeling of fiscal solvency?


    You stay classy, GM.

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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    12/17/08

    In reply to GM Delays Volt, Cruze Engine Plant Due To Carpocalypse
    Maybe they could put the 1.4L into some of the unsold SUVs. 30mpg highway, 0-60 in 32.8 seconds.
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    Image of mikedrawcar mikedrawcar
    12/17/08

    @The Name's Ash78, Housewares: oh man, the sight of so many soccer moms flooring it angrily to get on the highway...
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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    12/17/08

    @mikedrawcar: Well at least now the engine will make the angry sounds, too.


    Hey, people can choose whatever motor they'd like for their car. But sometimes I feel like they ought to USE at least 80% of it from time to time.


    I was just "training" my wife on Tiptronic last night (her first V6 in over six years). She's scared of the sounds it makes over 3,500 RPM when the variable header shifts.


    What were we talking about?

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    12/17/08

    @The Name's Ash78, Housewares: was she able to get 35mpg?
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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    12/17/08

    @e30 guy: Bwaaahahaha. The AWD is a hog. 21mpg in mixed. Best I've seen on the interstate is about 25. That's what 3700# does for ya.
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    12/17/08

    In reply to GM Delays Volt, Cruze Engine Plant Due To Carpocalypse
    The Euro/Dollar exchange is pretty decent right now, so I'd imagine they'd just import them for a while, rather than sink the capital expense into a new product. Hopefully this will be beneficial in the near term. In the long run, obviously in-house production is better, but that relies on things like "credit" to build new plants (look up "credit" on google, I don't feel like explaining it)
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    Image of FrankRizzo FrankRizzo
    12/17/08

    In reply to GM Delays Volt, Cruze Engine Plant Due To Carpocalypse
    Does anyone else see the catch 22 scenario here?


    We can't make a recovery because we can't launch our new cars, we can't launch our cars because we don't have the cash to build the plant.


    So, in short, they're screwed.

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    Image of silverjunkee silverjunkee
    12/17/08

    @FrankRizzo: There's the rub. Launching new "savior-mobiles" is a small part of their problem.


    I had dinner last night with some co-workers and a couple of their spouses. To put this in to perspective, these were mostly folks in their late 40s and early 50s, of anglo persuasion, a VP in a division of a major entertainment company, a project manager and a various other white-collar types.


    Anyway, I found it odd, being the "kid" at the table in my late 30s, that I was the ONLY one who had even the slightest sympathy or want for the "big" 3 survive. All I heard from these white, upper middle-class folks was "how great Hondas and Toyotas" were and how their Ford Cortina, Maverick, Camaro, Thunderbird of their wild 60s and 70s HS and college days were all pieces of shit (not to mention a 2003 Volvo lemon that was bought back by Ford) and how they'd NEVER go near another "American car" again so long as they live.


    I know, this is just one small anecdotal example, but if these 40-50ish white professionals can't be convinced to "buy American", how the hell is enough of the population going to be roped in to buy these cars, especially a $40k Chevy?


    Whether it's true or not that Japanese cars are somehow "better" than American brands, the impression they suck that's soaked into folks like the ones I had dinner with last night runs DEEP.

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    12/17/08

    @FrankRizzo: General Motors as a whole has been a giant catch 22 since 1974.
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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    12/17/08

    @silverjunkee: Sadly, most of the consumer money is in the hands of people who still remember GM's flailing in the 80s and the Japanese "saving the day" in the 90s.


    It's kind of sick, especially with how things change over time. It's like holding a grudge against a college football team because you didn't like them in 1974 (or the opposite, thinking everything the Japanese do is coated in gold, which is sort of like Alabama fans and their team)

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    Image of weatherman weatherman
    12/17/08

    @FrankRizzo: I think the point is "we're screwed... unless we get a big fat check from Uncle Sam..."


    I'm in favor of a rational plan to support the auto industry, but my first reaction on seeing this is that they are just playing Chicken with Congress with this ploy. They're basically saying "We can't afford to innovate our way out of this without help" in an effort to encourage the gov't loan program. Maybe I'm just cynical though.

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