I voted for the Glas. I've never even heard of this thing, and neither has 99% of the population. So, when you put all the hard work into fixing this thing up... you'll essentially end up with what happens when a Porsche 911 and a BMW 2002 get combined. And no one will have a clue what it really is.
@altdude: I would be very surprised if even 1% of the population were familiar with Glas.
I have a hard time, but I know that the Glas would end up with a supercharged Infiniti G20 engine, converted to run on carbs. Sadly, it doesn't have enough admirers for anyone to be upset about it.
I want the Glas. Yes, I'm looking at it through rose-colored glas-es. I would put glas-packs on the exhaust. But I wouldn't brag, because people who live in glas houses shouldn't throw stones. A project like this, well, it will take you right through the looking glas. Is the glas half empty or half full?
And in the end, you'll be looking...through a glas darkly.
That Glas is hell for sure, but I had to go with the Lotus here. Whenever I see one of these Elites or Eclats, I think what it'd be like to restore it to its disco-era greatness.
Give the exterior a day-glow lime green paintjob and on the inside (shag) carpet around and underneath the Recaros. Smashing, baby!
@SundaySunday: Whoa. Hey, I just noticed I've got one of those star-thingies. Must be an administrative error.
Perhaps Andrew flipped the star-granting wall switch on his way out of the office? Gotta be careful with those. I'm always afraid of burning out the garbage disposal in the kitchen that way.
But seriously, thanks. I guess I'm no longer "underground" in my commenter status, though I'll try to never be mainstream either.
A little too much 911 in the style, but even with most of the car gone, you could still grab this one pretty cheap and drag it home to sit in your yard. The glass (no pun intended) and trim would be hard to find, as would any glas-only mechanical bits, but these guys could help: [www.glasclub.org]
So that wouldn't be too terrible, and at less than a grand how could you go wrong? Unless of course you don't actually have room to take on an auto restoration project. What if you saw either the Glas or the Lotus and you suddenly got massive wood over the car, leaping to your feet from behind the keyboard and announcing to your efficiency studio apartment that "it will be mine!"
U-Haul provides the means to retrieve your new prized possession, but it's difficult to navigate the Ford F150 with "Grandma's Attic" and double-axle trailer down your narrow, urban street.
Parking in the middle of the block with the engine running you leap out and begin to untie the spider's web of fraying nylon cord holding the frail body and assortment of undistinguishable parts from having flown off on the expressway. As you attempt to undo a knot that could only have been constructed by an evil boy scout, or greek sailor bent on revenge, you curse having bitten off your finger nails for want of a grip on the unyielding entanglement.
Giving up and pulling out your pocket knife - damn the neighbor your borrowed the rope from - you notice a sound rising from the front of the U-Haul, a so wail that rises, and as it gets louder, is punctuated by an equally ear-splitting blast of an air horn.
Peering around the rig, you see a city paramedic ambulance nose to nose with your rented steed. The driver gets on the loudspeaker; "Get that thing outta' here!" he shouts, causing you to drop the knife and it drops into the filthy depths of the car's empty shell.
Running around front you slam into the open door of the truck and are miraculously sprung back into the driver's seat. Closing the door you throw it in reverse. Sitting there you picture the truck and trailer in your mind, remembering that to turn the trailer left, you'll need to spin the wheel to the right, and then . . .BWONK! the horn again. "Move it NOW" comes the voice of paramedic. Public servant my ass, you think to yourself, as you gingerly push down on the long, right-hand pedal and the 28 foot contraption moves backward.
Amazingly, you manage to get around the corner and let the ambulance by, only now you're facing the wrong way on the one-way street at the end of your block. Ahead, you see the traffic stacked up at the traffic light two blocks down. The light changes and you floor it in an impromptu game of chicken, you trying to make it to the next corner in order to get off this avenue, your opponents trying to get close enough to start honking and flipping the bird in justifiable response to your idiotic actions.
It's a close call, and you may have clipped that Impala in the curb-side lane with the trailer as you went around the corner, but you made it. Deciding you can't do this alone, you drive back out to the U-Haul shop and pick up a pair of nervous, ballcap-wearing day laborers, neither of whom speaks english, and one of which keeps adjusting things in his pants, and wiping his nose. The other simply looks out of the window and sighs. "Madre Dios" he whispers to himself. The second attempt to unload the car goes better, and soon you are taking the truck, the laborers and the empty trailer back to U-Haul. Catching a bus home, you take inventory of your new project and start planning the restoration. You find a 110 outlet in the stairwell of your building that you could use to run a sander or small air compressor off of. Throwing a tarp over the mass of parts and denuded body where it sits between the line of parked cars at the curb, you decide to hit the hay, as it has been a tiring day.
Early the next morning, you are awakened by a noise. It's a sheep-sheep-sheep sound that seems familiar but you can't quite . . . STREET SWEEPER! You run out of your flat, and down the two flights of stairs, nearly going ass-over-head as you reach the second landing when hitting the throw rug there. Bursting through the front door you see that your tarp-covered bundle is now sitting alone in the middle of the block. You look at the warn sign on the pole right next to it: "No Parking 6:00AM to 10:00AM Fridays, Street Cleaning." Crap! The sweeper is at the end of your block, just rounding the corner. Your only hope is to drag the car to the other side of the street which is swept on Thursdays. You throw back the tarp and are greeted by the sight of two sleeping bags, each with a pair of cowboy boots next to them, and in each one of the day laborers you had hired yesterday! "What are you doing in here?" you shout, and they, eyes wide in panic, attempt to bury themselves deeper in the bags. "No, no, no!" you shout, "You have to help me!" The sweeper is now only 10 houses away. You motion in mime to them that you need to drag the car over to the other side of the street. They look at one another and then shrug, "es okay, forty dolares" "What?, forty bucks? Oh crap, okay here." you throw two twenties at them. "Cada Uno, each" the other one says. THe sweeper is now only five houses away, and you feel like your options are growing limited/ "Okay, here," another two bills flutter down on the prone men, and you make get-up motions with your arms in front of them.
Grabbing the car by the door jam, you pull with all your might. One of the laborers pushes on the other side while the second grabs and kicks the various boxes of parts out into the street. The car gives a sickening sound as it scrapes across the 20 year old asphalt street and you just know that'll be the end of the floor pan. Looking up, you see the sweeper two doors away, its driver; a large african-american man in a plaid woolen coat and flappy hat glares at you as he bears down on your mid-block circus. His eyes are large, white and accusing.
As the car skids to a halt against the granite curb opposite your building you hear a new noise added to the cacophony of the sweeper, a lighter clanging, and you see a seat frame, missed by all three of you, get caught in the spinning, wire brushes of the sweeper. It makes two full revolutions and then is spat out, arcing over the street like a missile and landing square in the center of the windshield of your neighbor's 530i. The alarm goes off, lights begin to flash and glass spills onto the dash and seats. The two men with you drop their jaws and then start rapidly collecting their shoes, bags and passed balloons of black-tar heroin.
You sit on the curb, the cold spray from the sweeper's nozzle landing on your skin and soaking your PJ pants as neighbors begin to rush out of the buildings and the inevitable discovery of the BMW's damage is made by the owner. Hanging your head in your hands, you think to yourself that maybe you should just run like your workers, take up spending the day at the U-Haul lot, and sleeping under a tarp somewhere. That life doesn't sound so bad right about now.
Because the Europa I have sitting in a garage in southeastern BC is hardly a difficult project, I can't see this Lotus being any kind of challenge at all. Does it feature Magic Smoke-powered electricals? Probably! No matter, you'll want to replace all that wiring anyhow, right? That's always a fun project, re-wiring an old British car. Maybe invite a few friends you never want to see again over for a Saturday, and take on the project over a few beers. Then, once they've kicked you in the nuts, you'll have more time to work on the Lotus, because they'll never want to hang out with you again.
Yep, it may sound easy by comparison, but the guy wants a grand for something he's probably stripped all the useful parts off of with his money-grubbing hands and a pry bar.
The Glans... well, come on, the glass will be the only hard part, really. Even the rust isn't bad for Minnesota! And just look at it... it likes you.
You know, you could solve a lot of the Glas problems by just making a vintage racer out of it. No interior? No dash? No problem - you weren't gonna use those anyway....
The rust on the Glas doesn't actually look too bad. And "not too bad" rust is far more hellish than "rusted away".
Patching a half of a dozen large holes beats the hell out of patching several hundred small ones.
I never like buying cars sans title, either. Not because I distrust the seller, but because it makes life more difficult as far as getting it registered.
There are some late Glas GTs with BMW 1600 running gear, which isn't very hellish. This one figures to be purebred Glas goodness, which ratchets up the hell meter considerably. Plus, when you're done restoring your Glas, no one will know what you're talking about.
In the few mechanical parts available, I see what is definitely a BMW shifter platform and the aluminum casting that goes on the back of the block that the distributor goes into. Some kind of transitional car, I guess, since it clearly doesn't have the BMW grille opening.
11/09/08
A flower or glass?
Here's another hint: "most parts i have available."
'No parts except what you sparsely see' wins the eternal, infernal burning flame.
11/07/08
And it was a gas.
Soon turned out
It was a rusted out Glas.
Seemed like the real thing
Only to find
A collection of parts
In the Minnesota pines
11/08/08
11/07/08
11/08/08
I have a hard time, but I know that the Glas would end up with a supercharged Infiniti G20 engine, converted to run on carbs. Sadly, it doesn't have enough admirers for anyone to be upset about it.
11/07/08
Yes, I'm looking at it through rose-colored glas-es.
I would put glas-packs on the exhaust.
But I wouldn't brag, because people who live in glas houses shouldn't throw stones.
A project like this, well, it will take you right through the looking glas. Is the glas half empty or half full?
And in the end, you'll be looking...through a glas darkly.
11/07/08
Give the exterior a day-glow lime green paintjob and on the inside (shag) carpet around and underneath the Recaros. Smashing, baby!
11/07/08
Perhaps Andrew flipped the star-granting wall switch on his way out of the office? Gotta be careful with those. I'm always afraid of burning out the garbage disposal in the kitchen that way.
But seriously, thanks. I guess I'm no longer "underground" in my commenter status, though I'll try to never be mainstream either.
11/07/08
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/old school frat-boy reference
11/07/08
11/07/08
A little too much 911 in the style, but even with most of the car gone, you could still grab this one pretty cheap and drag it home to sit in your yard. The glass (no pun intended) and trim would be hard to find, as would any glas-only mechanical bits, but these guys could help: [www.glasclub.org]
So that wouldn't be too terrible, and at less than a grand how could you go wrong? Unless of course you don't actually have room to take on an auto restoration project. What if you saw either the Glas or the Lotus and you suddenly got massive wood over the car, leaping to your feet from behind the keyboard and announcing to your efficiency studio apartment that "it will be mine!"
U-Haul provides the means to retrieve your new prized possession, but it's difficult to navigate the Ford F150 with "Grandma's Attic" and double-axle trailer down your narrow, urban street.
Parking in the middle of the block with the engine running you leap out and begin to untie the spider's web of fraying nylon cord holding the frail body and assortment of undistinguishable parts from having flown off on the expressway. As you attempt to undo a knot that could only have been constructed by an evil boy scout, or greek sailor bent on revenge, you curse having bitten off your finger nails for want of a grip on the unyielding entanglement.
Giving up and pulling out your pocket knife - damn the neighbor your borrowed the rope from - you notice a sound rising from the front of the U-Haul, a so wail that rises, and as it gets louder, is punctuated by an equally ear-splitting blast of an air horn.
Peering around the rig, you see a city paramedic ambulance nose to nose with your rented steed. The driver gets on the loudspeaker; "Get that thing outta' here!" he shouts, causing you to drop the knife and it drops into the filthy depths of the car's empty shell.
Running around front you slam into the open door of the truck and are miraculously sprung back into the driver's seat. Closing the door you throw it in reverse. Sitting there you picture the truck and trailer in your mind, remembering that to turn the trailer left, you'll need to spin the wheel to the right, and then . . .BWONK! the horn again. "Move it NOW" comes the voice of paramedic. Public servant my ass, you think to yourself, as you gingerly push down on the long, right-hand pedal and the 28 foot contraption moves backward.
Amazingly, you manage to get around the corner and let the ambulance by, only now you're facing the wrong way on the one-way street at the end of your block. Ahead, you see the traffic stacked up at the traffic light two blocks down. The light changes and you floor it in an impromptu game of chicken, you trying to make it to the next corner in order to get off this avenue, your opponents trying to get close enough to start honking and flipping the bird in justifiable response to your idiotic actions.
It's a close call, and you may have clipped that Impala in the curb-side lane with the trailer as you went around the corner, but you made it. Deciding you can't do this alone, you drive back out to the U-Haul shop and pick up a pair of nervous, ballcap-wearing day laborers, neither of whom speaks english, and one of which keeps adjusting things in his pants, and wiping his nose. The other simply looks out of the window and sighs. "Madre Dios" he whispers to himself. The second attempt to unload the car goes better, and soon you are taking the truck, the laborers and the empty trailer back to U-Haul. Catching a bus home, you take inventory of your new project and start planning the restoration. You find a 110 outlet in the stairwell of your building that you could use to run a sander or small air compressor off of. Throwing a tarp over the mass of parts and denuded body where it sits between the line of parked cars at the curb, you decide to hit the hay, as it has been a tiring day.
Early the next morning, you are awakened by a noise. It's a sheep-sheep-sheep sound that seems familiar but you can't quite . . . STREET SWEEPER! You run out of your flat, and down the two flights of stairs, nearly going ass-over-head as you reach the second landing when hitting the throw rug there. Bursting through the front door you see that your tarp-covered bundle is now sitting alone in the middle of the block. You look at the warn sign on the pole right next to it: "No Parking 6:00AM to 10:00AM Fridays, Street Cleaning." Crap! The sweeper is at the end of your block, just rounding the corner. Your only hope is to drag the car to the other side of the street which is swept on Thursdays. You throw back the tarp and are greeted by the sight of two sleeping bags, each with a pair of cowboy boots next to them, and in each one of the day laborers you had hired yesterday! "What are you doing in here?" you shout, and they, eyes wide in panic, attempt to bury themselves deeper in the bags. "No, no, no!" you shout, "You have to help me!" The sweeper is now only 10 houses away. You motion in mime to them that you need to drag the car over to the other side of the street. They look at one another and then shrug, "es okay, forty dolares" "What?, forty bucks? Oh crap, okay here." you throw two twenties at them. "Cada Uno, each" the other one says. THe sweeper is now only five houses away, and you feel like your options are growing limited/ "Okay, here," another two bills flutter down on the prone men, and you make get-up motions with your arms in front of them.
Grabbing the car by the door jam, you pull with all your might. One of the laborers pushes on the other side while the second grabs and kicks the various boxes of parts out into the street. The car gives a sickening sound as it scrapes across the 20 year old asphalt street and you just know that'll be the end of the floor pan. Looking up, you see the sweeper two doors away, its driver; a large african-american man in a plaid woolen coat and flappy hat glares at you as he bears down on your mid-block circus. His eyes are large, white and accusing.
As the car skids to a halt against the granite curb opposite your building you hear a new noise added to the cacophony of the sweeper, a lighter clanging, and you see a seat frame, missed by all three of you, get caught in the spinning, wire brushes of the sweeper. It makes two full revolutions and then is spat out, arcing over the street like a missile and landing square in the center of the windshield of your neighbor's 530i. The alarm goes off, lights begin to flash and glass spills onto the dash and seats. The two men with you drop their jaws and then start rapidly collecting their shoes, bags and passed balloons of black-tar heroin.
You sit on the curb, the cold spray from the sweeper's nozzle landing on your skin and soaking your PJ pants as neighbors begin to rush out of the buildings and the inevitable discovery of the BMW's damage is made by the owner. Hanging your head in your hands, you think to yourself that maybe you should just run like your workers, take up spending the day at the U-Haul lot, and sleeping under a tarp somewhere. That life doesn't sound so bad right about now.
11/07/08
11/07/08
Sorry, gotta vote Lotus.
11/07/08
Yep, it may sound easy by comparison, but the guy wants a grand for something he's probably stripped all the useful parts off of with his money-grubbing hands and a pry bar.
The Glans... well, come on, the glass will be the only hard part, really. Even the rust isn't bad for Minnesota! And just look at it... it likes you.
11/07/08
11/07/08
Patching a half of a dozen large holes beats the hell out of patching several hundred small ones.
I never like buying cars sans title, either. Not because I distrust the seller, but because it makes life more difficult as far as getting it registered.
Glas gets my vote.
11/07/08
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In the few mechanical parts available, I see what is definitely a BMW shifter platform and the aluminum casting that goes on the back of the block that the distributor goes into. Some kind of transitional car, I guess, since it clearly doesn't have the BMW grille opening.
11/07/08
Back of the HEAD I mean.
11/09/08