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    Image of SigmundTheSeaMonster SigmundTheSeaMonster
    07/06/09

    In reply to Jalopnik's 20 Favorite Classic Volkswagen Commercials
    I heart Driving German Cars.
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    Image of jaymcminn jaymcminn
    07/06/09

    In reply to Jalopnik's 20 Favorite Classic Volkswagen Commercials
    The "Dah, dah, dah" ad didn't make the cut? Really? THe "Kleine GTI" ad and the '71 Karmann Ghia ad were brilliant, however.
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    07/06/09

    @jaymcminn: Yeah, that one's a classic.
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    07/06/09

    In reply to Jalopnik's 20 Favorite Classic Volkswagen Commercials
    I appreciate that VW's ad money is the lion's share of the site's revenue stream, but aren't any of you in management worried about the credibility of a car site that doesn't acknowledge, at least once in a while, that the vast majority of VW's are utter pieces of overpriced crap driven by Apple Store shoppers who care more about a secret paint color you can only get on the internet than they do about driving dynamics or reliability?
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    07/06/09

    @snapoversteer: As long as I can keep lighting my cigars with Wolfsburg-supplied Benjamins, you won't hear a single bad word about any VW product from me! Same goes for Ssangyong!
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    07/06/09

    @Murilee Martin: Nice. I didn't mean for my V-dub rant to accidentally splash bile on your entertaining ad retrospective. Your weekend postings are excellent.
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    07/07/09

    @snapoversteer: No problem, just wanted to make it clear that we don't ever get any editorial pressure to say good or bad things about companies that do or don't advertise on our site.


    That said, if VW wants to send me a suitcase packed with cash, I'm all for it!

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    Image of Stoatmaster Stoatmaster
    07/06/09

    In reply to Jalopnik's 20 Favorite Classic Volkswagen Commercials
    The British series "If only everything in life was as reliable as a Volkswagen" had little stories about lifes vicissitudes, in which the punchline was the protagonist turning the key in their Golf.


    I'll always remember the morning after the casino guy, and the unfaithful husband woman.


    Oh, and the one where the couple are in the car for hundreds of miles, and everything is perfect except for this continula tiny squeak. Despite endless searching, they can't find the source. Eventually they pull into a tiny service station in the desert, and the gnarly old proprietor leans into the car, looks around, and puts a drop of oil on the womans pendant earrings.

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    Image of the_gank the_gank
    07/06/09

    In reply to Jalopnik's 20 Favorite Classic Volkswagen Commercials
    How about the GTI vs Prius "how does your Prius sound commercial?


    Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :D

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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    07/06/09

    @the_gank: It's actually hawking the Jetta TDI, but yeah, it's pretty good.
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    07/05/09

    In reply to Jalopnik's 20 Favorite Classic Volkswagen Commercials
    You missed the "1949 Auto Show" ad from 1969:


    Absolute classic.

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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    07/06/09

    @tonyola: Genius ad. I wonder if, years from now, Hyundai or Kia might make a similar one costarring Plymouth, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Isuzu and whoever else croaks before the end of the Carpocalypse.
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    Image of PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287 PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287
    07/05/09

    In reply to Jalopnik's 20 Favorite Classic Volkswagen Commercials
    I still can't find a digital copy of the ad, but I remember it from my youth (early 90s I guess) It was a VW herder that had a farm with all of these VWs on it driving around. The ad ends with the farmer stating "You can tell by the gleam in the daytime running lights, these are happy cars!"


    It's a line that has stuck with me ever since.

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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    07/05/09

    @PotbellyJoe: Somewhere a marketing man just got his wings.
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    Image of Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable
    03/17/09

    In reply to 2012 BMW 1-Series May Go Retro, Lose Some Weight
    Huh- I thought the Pontiac Grand Am had been discontinued.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    03/17/09

    In reply to 2012 BMW 1-Series May Go Retro, Lose Some Weight
    As long as it handles like a proper BMW, I'm...


    ...oh, yeah, fuck it then.

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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    03/17/09

    In reply to 2012 BMW 1-Series May Go Retro, Lose Some Weight
    Do I detect a little of the boat-hull styling of the 1600 in that high gunwale line encircling the deck? I hope so, and I hope the sketch grows into it and takes on some more of his father's characteristics. This DUKW has a long way to go before it becomes a swan.
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    Image of ReverendDexter ReverendDexter
    03/17/09

    In reply to 2012 BMW 1-Series May Go Retro, Lose Some Weight
    Group me with the "shocked if it happens", and with the "even more shocked if it makes it to the states".


    For the last 10 years, manufacturers have been showing us awesome, then running awesome through the focus groups until it comes out mangled crap. The only exceptions to this are put at rediculous price points where very few can afford them.

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    Image of scroggzilla raids again scroggzilla raids again
    03/17/09

    @ReverendDexter: and that, Virginia, is why focus groups must die.
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    Image of theeastbaykid theeastbaykid
    03/17/09

    In reply to 2012 BMW 1-Series May Go Retro, Lose Some Weight
    Personally, I'd love to have a 135i, but that's because I already have a 2002 in the garage.
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    Image of Cognitive Friction Cognitive Friction
    03/17/09

    In reply to 2012 BMW 1-Series May Go Retro, Lose Some Weight
    2002 tii and 135i were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and the baby looked at me
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    Image of tenbeers tenbeers
    03/17/09

    @Cognitive Friction: Fortunately I work at an office products distributor, paper towels and screen wipes are cheap and abundant.
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    Image of Syrax Syrax
    03/17/09

    In reply to 2012 BMW 1-Series May Go Retro, Lose Some Weight
    You know what they say about not saying something only empowers said thing? Just say it: SS! Quit this Esse esse thing.
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    Image of SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R)
    03/17/09

    In reply to 2012 BMW 1-Series May Go Retro, Lose Some Weight
    I hope the front end doesn't look anything like the front end in that drawing, that's far worse than anything Bangle dreamed-up. I can't tell what the hell is going on with those headlights, and just because they're round doesn't make them retro. As for 'eye-brow' turn signals? WtF? Quick name a eye-brow-turn-signal wearin' auto?

    ... wait for it...

    Aztek!

    YUK!
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    SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) was starred SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) was unstarred
    Image of P161911 probably shoudn't have P161911 probably shoudn't have
    03/17/09

    @SlowMo: Apparently Bangle wanted to make sure that he was the best designer, he only hired designers worse than him and they are the only ones left.
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    Image of tenbeers tenbeers
    03/17/09

    @SlowMo: But...but...


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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    03/17/09

    @SlowMo: Er...


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    Image of Clay Davis Clay Davis
    03/17/09

    @SlowMo: I hope it looks exactly like that. The Bangle hating needs to stop, because current Bimmers are way better than the boxes on wheels that we used to have. The eyebrows might be the headlights, with giant fogs.


    And taking retro cues doesn't mean remaking the old car. If that car was in showrooms I'd buy it yesterday.


    Also, just because something was ruined by bean counters and non-designers on one car doesn't mean it'll fail on everything else.


    I'd love to see the design you'd come up with, and no you can't just use the old car.

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    Image of SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R)
    03/17/09

    @Clay Davis: I actually like a lot of the Bangle cars

    /ducks


    I just know that many of the commenters around here love to pile the hate on anything he is/was associated with so to say that something is worse than Bangle is a great insult in the Jalopnoverse.

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    Image of Syrax Syrax
    03/17/09

    @SlowMo: I like the E90. And the E66.
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    Image of ConnorW ConnorW
    03/17/09

    @Clay Davis: "Because current Bimmers are way better than the boxes on wheels that we used to have"


    Are you trolling? By boxes on wheels you aren't referring to the E46, E39, E38, E36, E34, E30, E28, E24, E21, E12, E9, are you? Try and imagine yourself 50 years from now looking back at the BMW time line, how do you explain the era when Bangle took over?


    BMW's teutonic design language was conservative, clean, coldly precise, etc. and that's why I loved them. I don't hate Bangle's designs, I actually like some of them, I just hate that he had to use BMW as the platform to launch them into the world. I liked BMW just the way it was, Mercedes would have been a much better fit for Bangle.

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    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    03/17/09

    @SlowMo: I hated the Bangle designs before I came to Jalopnik, and now that I'm here, I continue to admit that I like the 3-series and I wouldn't mind a 5er estate and I loooove the Z4.


    It isn't really a rallying thing, it's more like... Bangle styles vehicles controversially. A lot of people are vocal about hating them, but last I checked they're still selling BMWs all over the place, so.

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    Image of Syrax Syrax
    03/17/09

    @ConnorW: But at the time, E38 and E39 was considered too conservative. After Bangle they went from a small - yes, small - manufacturer to a world player.

    "I liked BMW just the way it was, Mercedes would have been a much better fit for Bangle."

    That's my main problem with Bangle. At that time, BMW couldn't afford to do risky designs. Mercedes could. But because of those designs they're where they are today.
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    Image of MR42HH MR42HH
    03/18/09

    @ConnorW:

    Are you trolling? By boxes on wheels you aren't referring to the E46, E39, E38, E36, E34, E30, E28, E24, E21, E12, E9, are you? Try and imagine yourself 50 years from now looking back at the BMW time line, how do you explain the era when Bangle took over?


    The E46, E38, E39 were styled after Bangle took over.

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    Image of ConnorW ConnorW
    03/18/09

    @MR42HH: It was my understanding that these designs were already in development when Bangle took over, and it wasn't until the next generation that he could steer the design from ground up.
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    Image of Syrax Syrax
    03/18/09

    @ConnorW: His first full BMW was the E53 - X5.
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