It's an AUSTRALIAN MADE AND DESIGNED Holden Commodore SS Ute. We've had them here for years and years. So here we have Pontiac coming to Australia to revive their dying car lineup.
I hate to rain your collective parades, but there's not a snowballs chance in hell that there will be a LHD version. It was never ever engineered to be made available in a LHD unlike the Commodore/G8 (the budget for the G8 was double that of the new Falcon)
The pick of them is the Turbo 6. 310 Kw (415 bhp) of brutality.
Meantime, feel free to have drool over all of the Falcons available- here's my Flickr set from when I went to the Falcon launch last year.
@FuzzyPlushroom: My thoughts exactly. It CAN'T be more expensive to finish the LHD conversion than to come up with full replacements for both those models.
Only problem is the 4x4 version of the Ranger. The Falcon Ute isn't exactly ideal for that role. Still, could probably fill that with the Ford F100 or F050 that was rumoured a while ago - a smaller, stripped down F150 for light-duty needs.
It almost goes without saying since its so obvious, the problem with the Subaru Baja is that the bed is ridiculously short. Nothing fits in it! I'd consider a VW Pickup/Caddy before a Baja... Just long enough to fit a motorcycle in the back, that's all I ask for.
The Toyota truck I use for the task now is fine, but an El Falcomino would be glorious.
Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. was starred
Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. was unstarred
Dude, can we please get over this obsession with car-based trucks? Holy crap, cut your mullet and get out of the 70's. This is as bad as the "I'd get it if they offered it in a turbo diesel manual wagon version." The vocal people on the internet sure love them, but for a real mass-market money maker, sorry.
Also, why on earth would I pay an extra 10 grand (10 grand!) for a truck that's a little lower, can't tow as much, yet gets the same or 1 mpg better fuel economy as a regular pickup? They'd be better off making a special edition pickup that's lowered and has a better interior and ride quality.
Seriously, think of this as a replacement for the 2wd Ranger, then it makes sense. In Australia, thanks to it's big beefy V8, it is used to tow far more than the Ranger can, and the only reason it's more expensive is that the Ranger hasn't seen a REAL update since the first Bush presidency. If we step away from the stereotype of the El Camino as an odd-ball muscle... thing... and look at it in the Australian model, it makes sense. These are the workhorses for most businesses down there. The low bed makes it easier to load, and the car-like ride makes it a more comfortable place to spend a day. Yes, Americans (and Canadians) love their big beefy trucks, but for a small business, a straight-six or turbo-four Ute is an appealing option.
there is no LHD version of the platform. the car was never engineered to meet US crash standards. importation of the car is therefore basically impossible. ain't gonna happen, no way, no how.
if one really has the el camino lust that bad, someone should talk to GM about paying to import the ST8 anyway with different fascia & hood or something. tho I don't think anyone who's that excited about an el camino has the money to do it anyway. or get Holden to sell you Ute a body-in-white to build up into whatever, like the reproduction muscle cars, then just buy all the parts from the dealer.
@dwp: The current Falcon was engineered and designed to be able to be easily converted to LHD. It's just never been done. Back in 2006, IIRC, when they were originally designing this new next-generation Falcon, the original plan was for this to be the next-gen North American Crown Victoria. I believe Ford decided it needed the funding more for development of the next generation of the Euro Focus, and never completed the conversion, but the car has been designed to allow it to be done easily.
@Deartháir: a Cruder, Fart-Joke Version of graverobber: In fact, the current falcon has seen time on North America being tested. Not sure if it was to be the new CV, but it has had plenty of time cruising the streets around Detroit.
@cgarison: I'd heard rumblings of that, but I'd never seen photos.
I get the feeling Ford is watching the G8 very carefully, and I have a sneaking hunch they've got something up their sleeves. The absence of any updates to the Crown Vic, despite its standing as the only viable choice for most police forces, which is still a profitable business for them, makes me wonder if they're using that profit towards development of the Falcon.
I was talking to a cop yesterday, while I was nose-down in a ditch, who was saying that the Crown Vic is still the only viable police cruiser the RCMP is considering. They tried the Charger, but once all the RCMP equipment was installed, they had zero visibility out the rear window. They have abandoned the Impala, as it doesn't leave enough room, once the equipment is installed, for some of the larger officers. Anyone over 6'3" was refusing to drive them. They looked at the G8, but Pontiac won't bring over enough GTs to fill their orders. So the Falcon looks like the only real option, unless Ford completely re-vamps the Crown Vic.
The original reason for moving to V6 vs. I6 was two-fold. Length of the engine and strength of the crank. The long straight-six had a tendency to bend the crank in the middle, necessitating a center-engine crank-bearing, which would make the engine even LONGER.
Today, though, that's not really a problem. With all the electronics involved, we need more space on either side of the engine, not so much for the engine themselves.
The I6 is also one of the few naturally-balanced engines (along with, if I recall, the two VW W-engines, the W8 and W12.) This means it requires no external balancing, and is exceptionally smooth, and more efficient than an otherwise-identical V6, because there's less rotating mass to deal with. That also means exceptional low-end torque.
All this for the trade-off of a longer hood... which looks sexy ANYHOW.
Now, it's perfectly fine for los Jalops to crave the high performance utes for hooning purposes and doing sweet smoky burnouts in the Gawker HQ parking lot. However, personally I wouldn't mind seeing a 4 cyl. fuel sipper version, perhaps even a diesel (gasp!). I bet something like that would sell pretty well with the average guy who doesn't need to haul a fridge while towing a jetski every weekend, but would like to carry his tools and a couple 2x4's without having to spring for the F-150.
I just don't see the thing selling. Not that many people have the weird el camino fetish you guys have. And would anyone here actually run out and buy a brand new one if they did sell it? Just sayin...
Stewth! We've heard about you Yanks before, mostly because you keep posting stories about good true-blue blokes and sheilas who just happened to get caught speeding or running people over or wanking, or all three. If you dickheads think we're going to turn our bonza Utes over to a bunch of limp-wristed poofs who think shooting out of a moving car while doing coke is newsworthy, then you've got another think coming.
01/24/09
It's an AUSTRALIAN MADE AND DESIGNED Holden Commodore SS Ute. We've had them here for years and years. So here we have Pontiac coming to Australia to revive their dying car lineup.
Interesting, isn't it?
01/27/09
[jalopnik.com]
01/08/09
[jalopnik.com]
01/08/09
Along with the G8, A couple of rounds of the V8 Supercars in the USA would become an awesome thing. Nascar what?
www.V8supercars.com.au
And how could we not love some XXXX Angel action over here?
[www.v8supercars.com.au]
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01/08/09
The pick of them is the Turbo 6. 310 Kw (415 bhp) of brutality.
Meantime, feel free to have drool over all of the Falcons available- here's my Flickr set from when I went to the Falcon launch last year.
[flickr.com]
Regards
Tom
01/08/09
01/08/09
Especially if we could get it Stateside with the tray! Full sheets of plywood, ahoy!
01/08/09
Hell, sounds right to me.
01/08/09
Only problem is the 4x4 version of the Ranger. The Falcon Ute isn't exactly ideal for that role. Still, could probably fill that with the Ford F100 or F050 that was rumoured a while ago - a smaller, stripped down F150 for light-duty needs.
01/08/09
The Toyota truck I use for the task now is fine, but an El Falcomino would be glorious.
01/08/09
01/08/09
Also, why on earth would I pay an extra 10 grand (10 grand!) for a truck that's a little lower, can't tow as much, yet gets the same or 1 mpg better fuel economy as a regular pickup? They'd be better off making a special edition pickup that's lowered and has a better interior and ride quality.
01/08/09
Seriously, think of this as a replacement for the 2wd Ranger, then it makes sense. In Australia, thanks to it's big beefy V8, it is used to tow far more than the Ranger can, and the only reason it's more expensive is that the Ranger hasn't seen a REAL update since the first Bush presidency. If we step away from the stereotype of the El Camino as an odd-ball muscle... thing... and look at it in the Australian model, it makes sense. These are the workhorses for most businesses down there. The low bed makes it easier to load, and the car-like ride makes it a more comfortable place to spend a day. Yes, Americans (and Canadians) love their big beefy trucks, but for a small business, a straight-six or turbo-four Ute is an appealing option.
01/08/09
if one really has the el camino lust that bad, someone should talk to GM about paying to import the ST8 anyway with different fascia & hood or something. tho I don't think anyone who's that excited about an el camino has the money to do it anyway. or get Holden to sell you Ute a body-in-white to build up into whatever, like the reproduction muscle cars, then just buy all the parts from the dealer.
01/08/09
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I get the feeling Ford is watching the G8 very carefully, and I have a sneaking hunch they've got something up their sleeves. The absence of any updates to the Crown Vic, despite its standing as the only viable choice for most police forces, which is still a profitable business for them, makes me wonder if they're using that profit towards development of the Falcon.
I was talking to a cop yesterday, while I was nose-down in a ditch, who was saying that the Crown Vic is still the only viable police cruiser the RCMP is considering. They tried the Charger, but once all the RCMP equipment was installed, they had zero visibility out the rear window. They have abandoned the Impala, as it doesn't leave enough room, once the equipment is installed, for some of the larger officers. Anyone over 6'3" was refusing to drive them. They looked at the G8, but Pontiac won't bring over enough GTs to fill their orders. So the Falcon looks like the only real option, unless Ford completely re-vamps the Crown Vic.
01/08/09
01/08/09
Plus, many taxis are used police cars, since they're cheap and well-maintained. So you're right, but it wouldn't help Ford much.
01/08/09
01/08/09
Indeed. Why is it that you can't get an I6 in a truck anymore, let alone a car. I miss my old 300I6.
01/08/09
The original reason for moving to V6 vs. I6 was two-fold. Length of the engine and strength of the crank. The long straight-six had a tendency to bend the crank in the middle, necessitating a center-engine crank-bearing, which would make the engine even LONGER.
Today, though, that's not really a problem. With all the electronics involved, we need more space on either side of the engine, not so much for the engine themselves.
The I6 is also one of the few naturally-balanced engines (along with, if I recall, the two VW W-engines, the W8 and W12.) This means it requires no external balancing, and is exceptionally smooth, and more efficient than an otherwise-identical V6, because there's less rotating mass to deal with. That also means exceptional low-end torque.
All this for the trade-off of a longer hood... which looks sexy ANYHOW.
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Now, it's perfectly fine for los Jalops to crave the high performance utes for hooning purposes and doing sweet smoky burnouts in the Gawker HQ parking lot. However, personally I wouldn't mind seeing a 4 cyl. fuel sipper version, perhaps even a diesel (gasp!). I bet something like that would sell pretty well with the average guy who doesn't need to haul a fridge while towing a jetski every weekend, but would like to carry his tools and a couple 2x4's without having to spring for the F-150.
01/08/09
Man, I loved that fuel mileage.
...uh, I mean, RAW POWER! RRRRGH!
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I don't know about you, but I, want to rock and roll all night, and party ev-uh-ree day.
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01/08/09
Dear Jalopniks,
Stewth! We've heard about you Yanks before, mostly because you keep posting stories about good true-blue blokes and sheilas who just happened to get caught speeding or running people over or wanking, or all three. If you dickheads think we're going to turn our bonza Utes over to a bunch of limp-wristed poofs who think shooting out of a moving car while doing coke is newsworthy, then you've got another think coming.
Rack off,
Ford Oz.
01/08/09