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    Image of Jes St.Lawrence Jes St.Lawrence
    11/18/09

    In reply to Vehicle Weight Vs. Fuel Economy Study Ignores Gov Mandates
    "but when you leave out an obvious weight driver the whole affair is suspect."

    I read that as "but when you leave out the obvious driver weight, the whole affair is suspect."
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    Image of DrLemming DrLemming
    11/18/09

    In reply to Vehicle Weight Vs. Fuel Economy Study Ignores Gov Mandates
    I'm a live-and-let-live kind of guy. If other folks want more horsepower, they should have it if they want to pay for it. What bothers me is that today there is a much lower selection of high-mileage cars than even in the early 1990s. For example, I'd like to see a contemporary replacement for my 1991 Honda Civic wagon. It doesn't exist.

    I either have to move down market to a much smaller Fit, or up to a CRV.

    I don't want to do either. Nor is the lower gas mileage of a Matrix or Impreza very appealing despite the added safety features over my 1991 Civic. Nor do I want the added weight and complexity of a Prius.

    I also don't need all of the supposedly "must-have" bells and whistles such as power windows. Give me something light, simple and versatile with gas mileage at least in the mid-30s -- without having to switch to a hybrid.

    Please? #fueleconomy
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    Image of gunluva is prepared to drop. gunluva is prepared to drop.
    11/17/09

    In reply to Vehicle Weight Vs. Fuel Economy Study Ignores Gov Mandates
    That picture is the car the Boomer from L4D drives. #fueleconomy
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/17/09

    In reply to Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last
    I'm going to pop open a cold one on the day GM officially announces there will never be a Chevy Volt mass produced for the 'Merican consumer. #laautoshow
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    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    11/17/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: I'll just wearily shake my head. Then I'll pop a bottle of whiskey, but not necessarily out of a sense of celebration. #laautoshow
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/17/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: Based on what I've seen and know, you'll never get a chance to pop that cold one open. Sorry. #laautoshow
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    Image of philibuster philibuster
    11/17/09

    In reply to Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last
    Will the cruze be better than the fiesta? #laautoshow
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    11/17/09

    In reply to Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last
    Is this the car we knew Korea could build for us? #laautoshow
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    11/17/09

    In reply to Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last
    Too bad this can't be a direct-injection 1.4L TD. Then we'd get 260 torques and 65 MPG.

    Oh, and it'd last forever...or until some bonehead put gasoline in it a 15th time. #laautoshow
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    Image of duurtlang duurtlang
    11/18/09

    @that ain't the way to have fun, son:
    It's available in Europe already, with a 2 liter turbodiesel with 150 HP. It's not very economical though, for European standards that is.
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    11/18/09

    @duurtlang: Which means it slam-dunks anything, here.

    Grrrrr.

    #tips
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    11/17/09

    In reply to Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last
    09' 1.4 GTDI: 140 hp
    90' 5.0 L02 v8 (Base): 140 hp

    We did come a long way. #laautoshow
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/17/09

    In reply to Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last
    We used to get awesome North American premieres like the Bugatti Veyron, Ferrari 599 GTB and the Venturi Fétish.

    This year we get some run of the mill Chevy and a Toyota van. #laautoshow
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    Image of ShantJ ShantJ
    11/17/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: The Fétish is sold here? #laautoshow
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    Image of wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx
    11/17/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: Its too true. Sad, really, but we actually stand a chance of buying these cars. #laautoshow
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/17/09

    @ShantJ: Is the Fétish even sold anywhere? #laautoshow
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    11/17/09

    In reply to Vehicle Weight Vs. Fuel Economy Study Ignores Gov Mandates

    Sorry, I am more interested in this. #fueleconomy
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    11/17/09

    @FTGDWolverineEdition'09: And it still amazes me we could do this while improving FE. #fueleconomy
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    11/17/09

    In reply to Vehicle Weight Vs. Fuel Economy Study Ignores Gov Mandates

    If it weren't for the Porsche badge, I'd say a Mustang Mach III had a terrible reaction...possibly to production greenlights. #fueleconomy
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    Image of Franzouse Franzouse
    11/17/09

    In reply to Vehicle Weight Vs. Fuel Economy Study Ignores Gov Mandates
    Improvements in fuel economy since 1980 were also offset by the fact that we're all getting fatter; I can't believe the authors of this study would overlook such an important factor.
    /ducks #fueleconomy
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/17/09

    In reply to Vehicle Weight Vs. Fuel Economy Study Ignores Gov Mandates
    As much as I am disgusted by model bloat, added features, and unnecessary complexities, I have to agree: the results are horseshit.

    A brand-new vehicle with comparable interior room and luggage capacity to my dad's old Citation, bought new back in 1980, delivers both better fuel economy and a radically improved driving experience. To say that the cruise control, myriad airbags and magnitudes-different engineering that goes into the intrusion prevention door beams, traction control and brake lockup prevention don't keep the fuel economy down would be to look through the wrong end of the telescope. By that same token, to say the fuel economy would be so much better if it weren't for all that added weight, is to block the telescope before looking through it.

    Things are better than they were, all around. Certain aspects could be much, much better, yes. But that would come at the expense of the improvement in other areas. This is the whole package. #fueleconomy
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    11/17/09

    In reply to Vehicle Weight Vs. Fuel Economy Study Ignores Gov Mandates
    Fuel economy numbers, like every other either mandated or produced-by-the-gubment, is/can be tweaked to back up whatever propaganda is desired.

    Look at the "unemployment number". Totally. Worthless. Statistic. #fueleconomy
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    Image of egoods egoods
    11/17/09

    In reply to Vehicle Weight Vs. Fuel Economy Study Ignores Gov Mandates
    A once (still?) great Stats teacher once told me: "Edward, there's facts, and then there's stats" #fueleconomy
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    Image of BLCKSTRM BLCKSTRM
    11/17/09

    @egoods: I believe the order is 1) Lies, 2) Damn Lies, and 3) Statistics. #fueleconomy
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